Dates+Almonds, are helping my Low carbing.

"John E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi Folks,

For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit) per day.
They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along with some raw
almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2 takes away my craving
for something sweet all day.

Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.

a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
b.. SODIUM FREE!
c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of energy
packed carbohydrates!
g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's more than
bananas!)
h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.

I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about 10g of
carbs
and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of carbs
but 46 calories but more nutritious.

For more information on dates, visit

http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.

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Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr. Atkins), I'd
consume
2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.

Wallmart has a natural peanut butter called "Adam's"(peanuts and salt).
And Super Store sells a President's Choice brand peanut butter called "Just
Peanuts"(peanuts only). Both are good, have no sugar, no transfats, and are
not labeled "Lo-carb". You have to stir in the peanut oil just like the good
ol' days. Regular peanut butter has icing sugar and transfats. I'm not
impressed with the lo-carb peanut butters because they replace the sugar
with sweeteners and still have transfats. There may be some brands that
don't, but I haven't seen any.
As for the dates. Try not to bend the rules on induction. Fruits are
allowed later on. It may also be better to eat fruits whole rather than
dehydrated. It is too easy to over-eat in this way. I'm not saying don't eat
them. There are lots of different lo-carb diets, and I'm sure they're
probably allowed on one of them. Just be aware that when you are introducing
higher carb foods, that it is good to monitor whether it is the type of food
that you will eat too many of. It seems like you like dates alot. That may
be a good sign that you will have to be careful.

Tom
210/180/180

Quoted message said:

Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
risk dropping of out induction.

J.

John E said:

Hi Folks,

For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit) per day.
They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along with some raw
almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2 takes away my craving
for something sweet all day.

Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.

a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
b.. SODIUM FREE!
c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of energy
packed carbohydrates!
g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's more than
bananas!)
h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.

I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about 10g of
carbs
and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of carbs
but 46 calories but more nutritious.

For more information on dates, visit http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.

Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr. Atkins), I'd
consume
2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.

Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
risk dropping of out induction.

J.

I could try it but sweet stuff is so dangerous for me.....I like dates
though

John E said:

Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
risk dropping of out induction.

not everyone here is following atkins, and dates wouldn't be allowed on
induction anyhow.

Dear J

I'm glad that you found something healthful that works for you.

Just beware. Sweet foods do tend to be a bit of an achillies heal to people
on resrticed carb diets. You are so right in saying that their are many
health benefits to dates, but carb wise, it's not the first two that cause
problems, it's the 17 and the 23rd date that is the issue.

On a more positive note, how are you doing with your weight?

Kaye

--
Don't use that magical, mysterious, joy fantastic fascinating word called
love unless you love me to the nines."
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Quoted message said:

Hi Folks,

For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit) per day.
They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along with some raw
almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2 takes away my craving
for something sweet all day.

Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.

a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
b.. SODIUM FREE!
c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of energy
packed carbohydrates!
g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's more than
bananas!)
h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.

I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about 10g of
carbs
and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of carbs
but 46 calories but more nutritious.

For more information on dates, visit
http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.

Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr. Atkins), I'd
consume
2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.

Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
risk dropping of out induction.

J.

All foods are legal if you find a portion small enough. For 10 carbs, I can
think of much better choices- like 3-4 low carb blueberry pecan pancakes/
with sourcream.

Induction is somewhat a time of survival- If you really are motivated to
stick with it- you will find all the food choices that will fit into the
plan for these few weeks. These foods are the foundation of the way you
should eat for the rest of your life-
I love sweet too- But today's sweet tooth gags on what I used to eat.

--
Diane

"kaye" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Dear J

I'm glad that you found something healthful that works for you.

Just beware. Sweet foods do tend to be a bit of an achillies heal to
people on resrticed carb diets. You are so right in saying that their are
many health benefits to dates, but carb wise, it's not the first two that
cause problems, it's the 17 and the 23rd date that is the issue.

On a more positive note, how are you doing with your weight?

Kaye

--
Don't use that magical, mysterious, joy fantastic fascinating word called
love unless you love me to the nines."
"John E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi Folks,

For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit) per day.
They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along with some raw
almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2 takes away my craving
for something sweet all day.

Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.

a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
b.. SODIUM FREE!
c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of energy
packed carbohydrates!
g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's more than
bananas!)
h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.

I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about 10g of
carbs
and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of carbs
but 46 calories but more nutritious.

For more information on dates, visit
http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.

Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr. Atkins),
I'd consume
2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.

Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
risk dropping of out induction.

J.

I need to rephrase-All foods are LOW CARB if you find a portion small
enough. Stick to the list in induction.

After induction- respect the power of 5.

--
Diane

"diane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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. For 10 carbs, I can think of much better choices- like 3-4 low carb
blueberry pecan pancakes/ with sourcream.

Induction is somewhat a time of survival- If you really are motivated to
stick with it- you will find all the food choices that will fit into the
plan for these few weeks. These foods are the foundation of the way you
should eat for the rest of your life-
I love sweet too- But today's sweet tooth gags on what I used to eat.

--
Diane

"kaye" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Dear J

I'm glad that you found something healthful that works for you.

Just beware. Sweet foods do tend to be a bit of an achillies heal to
people on resrticed carb diets. You are so right in saying that their
are many health benefits to dates, but carb wise, it's not the first two
that cause problems, it's the 17 and the 23rd date that is the issue.

On a more positive note, how are you doing with your weight?

Kaye

--
Don't use that magical, mysterious, joy fantastic fascinating word called
love unless you love me to the nines."
"John E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi Folks,

For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit) per
day.
They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along with some raw
almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2 takes away my craving
for something sweet all day.

Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.

a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
b.. SODIUM FREE!
c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of energy
packed carbohydrates!
g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's more than
bananas!)
h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.

I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about 10g of
carbs
and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of carbs
but 46 calories but more nutritious.

For more information on dates, visit
http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.

Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr. Atkins),
I'd consume
2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.

Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
risk dropping of out induction.

J.

diane wrote:
|| I need to rephrase-All foods are LOW CARB if you find a portion small
|| enough. Stick to the list in induction.
||
|| After induction- respect the power of 5.

that's funny.

||
|| --
|| Diane
||
||
||
|| "diane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| . For 10 carbs, I can think of much better choices- like 3-4 low
||| carb blueberry pecan pancakes/ with sourcream.
|||
||| Induction is somewhat a time of survival- If you really are
||| motivated to stick with it- you will find all the food choices that
||| will fit into the plan for these few weeks. These foods are the
||| foundation of the way you should eat for the rest of your life-
||| I love sweet too- But today's sweet tooth gags on what I used to
||| eat.
|||
||| --
||| Diane
|||
|||
|||
||| "kaye" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||| news:[email hidden]...
|||| Dear J
||||
|||| I'm glad that you found something healthful that works for you.
||||
|||| Just beware. Sweet foods do tend to be a bit of an achillies heal
|||| to people on resrticed carb diets. You are so right in saying
|||| that their are many health benefits to dates, but carb wise, it's
|||| not the first two that cause problems, it's the 17 and the 23rd
|||| date that is the issue.
||||
|||| On a more positive note, how are you doing with your weight?
||||
|||| Kaye
||||
|||| --
|||| Don't use that magical, mysterious, joy fantastic fascinating word
|||| called love unless you love me to the nines."
|||| "John E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|||| news:[email hidden]...
||||| Hi Folks,
|||||
||||| For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit)
||||| per day.
||||| They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along with some
||||| raw almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2 takes away
||||| my craving for something sweet all day.
|||||
||||| Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
||||| Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.
|||||
||||| a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
||||| a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
||||| b.. SODIUM FREE!
||||| c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
||||| d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
||||| e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
||||| f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of
||||| energy packed carbohydrates!
||||| g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's
||||| more than bananas!)
||||| h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
||||| No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.
|||||
||||| I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about
||||| 10g of carbs
||||| and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of
||||| carbs but 46 calories but more nutritious.
|||||
||||| For more information on dates, visit
||||| http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.
|||||
||||| Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr.
||||| Atkins), I'd consume
||||| 2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.
|||||
||||| Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because
||||| you risk dropping of out induction.
|||||
||||| J.

Do you work for the U.S. Date Board???

"KEN LOVES JULIEANNE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Do you work for the U.S. Date Board???

Haha. I thought that as well, until I remembered answering a previous
post from him. 'Course he could still be a sly spammer that got in under my
radar by posting questions first like a real lo-carber would. 🙂

Quoted message said:

On a more positive note, how are you doing with your weight?

I am down 17% from my maximum weight, that's scale wise.

However, I have built lots of muscle mass as well. It is very visible.

POSITIVES: I feel much better walking, talking, swimming, sitting, and above
all
I sleep much better. I produce better at work and I am in a much
better mood than when I was heavy. My soscial life has improved.

NEGATIVES: more costly foods and having to replace entire sets
of clothes including shoes.

I will post pictures and full details by end of March. That's my goal and
a promise.

As to the dates, I substituted dates for low carb cheesecake. Same carbs
but 22% of the calories. IF I exit Ketosis, then I can see it as a problem.
But I never do. I test twice per day.

Good luck to you,

J.

"kaye" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Dear J

I'm glad that you found something healthful that works for you.

Just beware. Sweet foods do tend to be a bit of an achillies heal to
people on resrticed carb diets. You are so right in saying that their are
many health benefits to dates, but carb wise, it's not the first two that
cause problems, it's the 17 and the 23rd date that is the issue.

Kaye

--
Don't use that magical, mysterious, joy fantastic fascinating word called
love unless you love me to the nines."
"John E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi Folks,

For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit) per day.
They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along with some raw
almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2 takes away my craving
for something sweet all day.

Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.

a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
b.. SODIUM FREE!
c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of energy
packed carbohydrates!
g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's more than
bananas!)
h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.

I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about 10g of
carbs
and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of carbs
but 46 calories but more nutritious.

For more information on dates, visit
http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.

Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr. Atkins),
I'd consume
2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.

Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
risk dropping of out induction.

J.

"KEN LOVES JULIEANNE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Do you work for the U.S. Date Board???

How did you know?

We are taking applications for new hires. Interested?

If it works for you, then keep it up.

John E wrote:
||| On a more positive note, how are you doing with your weight?
||
|| I am down 17% from my maximum weight, that's scale wise.
||
|| However, I have built lots of muscle mass as well. It is very
|| visible.
||
|| POSITIVES: I feel much better walking, talking, swimming, sitting,
|| and above all
|| I sleep much better. I produce better at work and I am in a much
|| better mood than when I was heavy. My soscial life has improved.
||
|| NEGATIVES: more costly foods and having to replace entire sets
|| of clothes including shoes.
||
|| I will post pictures and full details by end of March. That's my
|| goal and a promise.
||
|| As to the dates, I substituted dates for low carb cheesecake. Same
|| carbs but 22% of the calories. IF I exit Ketosis, then I can see it
|| as a problem. But I never do. I test twice per day.
||
|| Good luck to you,
||
|| J.
||
||
||
||
||
|| "kaye" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| Dear J
|||
||| I'm glad that you found something healthful that works for you.
|||
||| Just beware. Sweet foods do tend to be a bit of an achillies heal
||| to people on resrticed carb diets. You are so right in saying that
||| their are many health benefits to dates, but carb wise, it's not
||| the first two that cause problems, it's the 17 and the 23rd date
||| that is the issue.
|||
|||
||| Kaye
|||
||| --
||| Don't use that magical, mysterious, joy fantastic fascinating word
||| called love unless you love me to the nines."
||| "John E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||| news:[email hidden]...
|||| Hi Folks,
||||
|||| For the past 10 days I've been eating 2 dates (palm tree fruit)
|||| per day. They are extremely sweet and tasty. I eat them along
|||| with some raw almonds. Because they are very sweet, eating 2
|||| takes away my craving for something sweet all day.
||||
|||| Each date has 5 grams of carbohydrate. So I am consuming 10.
|||| Even sometimes I take 3 or 4. I never drop out of ketosis.
||||
|||| a.. Dates are one of the most nutritious foods that you can eat!
|||| a.. DATES ARE FAT FREE! (that's including saturated fats!)
|||| b.. SODIUM FREE!
|||| c.. CHOLESTEROL FREE!
|||| d.. ONE OF THE BEST SOURCES OF FIBER!
|||| e.. The average date has only 23 calories!
|||| f.. One serving of dates(5 or 6) has approximately 31 grams of
|||| energy packed carbohydrates!
|||| g.. One serving of dates provides 240mg. of Potassium (that's
|||| more than bananas!)
|||| h.. Dates are packed with vitamin-B complex and magnesium.
|||| No wonder I feel more energetic at the gym the days I eat 2 dates.
||||
|||| I used to eat low-carb deserts full of cheeses composed of about
|||| 10g of carbs
|||| and 200 calories per serving. The dates have the same amount of
|||| carbs but 46 calories but more nutritious.
||||
|||| For more information on dates, visit
|||| http://www.hadleys.com/nutrition.html.
||||
|||| Instead of consuming 2 table spoons of penult butter (per Dr.
|||| Atkins), I'd consume
|||| 2 dates. Much sweeter , no poisonous trans-fat, and much tastier.
||||
|||| Try it. I advise against consuming more than 3 per day because you
|||| risk dropping of out induction.
||||
|||| J.

"KEN LOVES JULIEANNE" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Do you work for the U.S. Date Board???

If he does they should fire him! Only 2 dates a day? Sheesh! FTR, while some
here prefer fake food carbs, others prefer real food carbs. What's the
difference? Could there be some health benefits here?

Nancy J said:

"KEN LOVES JULIEANNE" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Do you work for the U.S. Date Board???

If he does they should fire him! Only 2 dates a day? Sheesh! FTR, while
some
here prefer fake food carbs, others prefer real food carbs. What's the
difference? Could there be some health benefits here?

Not in dates. Dates are 75% carbohydrates and are concentrated. I'd
rather eat blueberries, strawberries, etc.

--
Bob in CT

I tried 2 small figs (roughly same carbs, nutrients, etc. as dates) for my
morning snack yesterday instead of my usual LC cookies. My stomach was
growling 45 minutes before my normal lunch time. That has never happened
before. So they trigger hunger pangs for me.

on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:14:01 -0500, "Bob M" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Not in dates. Dates are 75% carbohydrates and are concentrated. I'd
rather eat blueberries, strawberries, etc.

-----
Bev

I agree. I had 2 oz of sweet potatoes tonight- that's like a golf ball size
portion. It was good, enough with the rest of the meal, but it closed the
door to the kitchen for me tonight. I can spend my carbs better.

Bev makes a good point. If you must eat something high carb- keep the
portion small or you will trigger that good old hunger again. Also spread
your carbs out during the day and eat them with fats or proteins
--
Diane

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I tried 2 small figs (roughly same carbs, nutrients, etc. as dates) for my
morning snack yesterday instead of my usual LC cookies. My stomach was
growling 45 minutes before my normal lunch time. That has never happened
before. So they trigger hunger pangs for me.

on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:14:01 -0500, "Bob M" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Not in dates. Dates are 75% carbohydrates and are concentrated. I'd
rather eat blueberries, strawberries, etc.

-----
Bev