sugar industry admits that sugar is evil

TC said:

If sugar is not evil in moderate amounts then it must be evil in
amounts greater than moderate amounts, is it not?

Joe says he never bowls on Tuesdays. Does that imply that Joe bowls on
Mondays?

TC said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

"Meanwhile, the Sugar Association, worried about the declining sales,
is going to spend at least $3 million a year for the next three years
to give consumers "permission to use sugar," according to spokeswoman
Melanie Miller. "In moderation, it's not evil," she said, noting a
teaspoon is only 15 calories."

If sugar is not evil in moderate amounts then it must be evil in
amounts greater than moderate amounts, is it not?

TC

Ya know even water can be harmful if taken in excess.

jt said:

TC said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

"Meanwhile, the Sugar Association, worried about the declining sales,
is going to spend at least $3 million a year for the next three years
to give consumers "permission to use sugar," according to spokeswoman
Melanie Miller. "In moderation, it's not evil," she said, noting a
teaspoon is only 15 calories."

If sugar is not evil in moderate amounts then it must be evil in
amounts greater than moderate amounts, is it not?

TC

Ya know even water can be harmful if taken in excess.

But I wouldn't say that water is not evil if taken in small amounts unless I
felt that more typical amounts were harmful.

Hagrinas Mivali said:

jt said:

TC said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

"Meanwhile, the Sugar Association, worried about the declining sales,
is going to spend at least $3 million a year for the next three years
to give consumers "permission to use sugar," according to spokeswoman
Melanie Miller. "In moderation, it's not evil," she said, noting a
teaspoon is only 15 calories."

If sugar is not evil in moderate amounts then it must be evil in
amounts greater than moderate amounts, is it not?

TC

Ya know even water can be harmful if taken in excess.

But I wouldn't say that water is not evil if taken in small amounts unless I
felt that more typical amounts were harmful.

Typical amounts now were not so 30 years ago.

jt said:

TC said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

"Meanwhile, the Sugar Association, worried about the declining

sales,

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is going to spend at least $3 million a year for the next three

years

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to give consumers "permission to use sugar," according to

spokeswoman

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Melanie Miller. "In moderation, it's not evil," she said, noting a
teaspoon is only 15 calories."

If sugar is not evil in moderate amounts then it must be evil in
amounts greater than moderate amounts, is it not?

TC

Ya know even water can be harmful if taken in excess.

Without water you die. Without sugar you live a long healthy life.

TC

"Without water you die. Without sugar you live a long healthy life."

Nope, sugar,ie. glucose/fructose, is the most basic source of energy for
day to day metabolism, if it isn't in the diet then the body breaks down
fat and/or protein to create a form of it it can use for energy. Without
such energy sources you die. The most basic use of water on an ongoing
basis is to make this possible.

"In an age where there is no lack of "high energy" refined carbs and
sugars (and resulting obesity and obesity related disease), you
advocate the continued consumption of nutritionally empty high energy
refined sugar. That shows your utter stupidity on this topic.

Plenty of glucose can be be gotten from much better and just as
available sources healthy nutritionally-dense wholefood sources. We do
not need one single grain of sugar to be added to our diets. And if it
wasn't there we would not miss it (nutritionally speaking) one iota."

Never have I advised eating sugar in excess, I have however commented on
the quality of the science/nutritional information you present and correct
it's usual flawed content. After all is ssaid and done, the glucose your
body uses from a candy bar or an equal amount from a whole food source are
the same to the process of metabolism. The reason to choose the latter as
the usual source of energy is the additional nutrition contained in it,
which doesn't exclude the former as an occasional snack and as long as
both are eaten with an eye toward not exceeding one's calorie
requirements.. Do recall this started with your silly assertion through
tortured logic from a cherry picked phrase that sugar makers now agree
sugar as a substance is evil.

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"Without water you die. Without sugar you live a long healthy life."

Nope, sugar,ie. glucose/fructose, is the most basic source of energy

for

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day to day metabolism, if it isn't in the diet then the body breaks

down

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fat and/or protein to create a form of it it can use for energy.

Without

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such energy sources you die. The most basic use of water on an

ongoing

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basis is to make this possible.

In an age where there is no lack of "high energy" refined carbs and
sugars (and resulting obesity and obesity related disease), you
advocate the continued consumption of nutritionally empty high energy
refined sugar. That shows your utter stupidity on this topic.

Plenty of glucose can be be gotten from much better and just as
available sources healthy nutritionally-dense wholefood sources. We do
not need one single grain of sugar to be added to our diets. And if it
wasn't there we would not miss it (nutritionally speaking) one iota.

Who do you work for? You must be getting paid to push this idiotic
argument of yours.

TC

"So you agree with me in general then."

No, sugar is not evil, eating foods containing it as an added substance is
not evil and having it as part of a normal diet is not abnorbal and making
obsessive compulsive efforts to avoid it are not needed if priority is
first given to one's nutritional and weight status needs.

Quoted message said:

"In an age where there is no lack of "high energy" refined carbs and
sugars (and resulting obesity and obesity related disease), you
advocate the continued consumption of nutritionally empty high energy
refined sugar. That shows your utter stupidity on this topic.

Plenty of glucose can be be gotten from much better and just as
available sources healthy nutritionally-dense wholefood sources. We

do

Quoted message said:

not need one single grain of sugar to be added to our diets. And if

it

Quoted message said:

wasn't there we would not miss it (nutritionally speaking) one iota."

Never have I advised eating sugar in excess, I have however commented

on

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the quality of the science/nutritional information you present and

correct

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it's usual flawed content. After all is ssaid and done, the glucose

your

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body uses from a candy bar or an equal amount from a whole food

source are

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the same to the process of metabolism. The reason to choose the

latter as

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the usual source of energy is the additional nutrition contained in

it,

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which doesn't exclude the former as an occasional snack and as long

as

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both are eaten with an eye toward not exceeding one's calorie
requirements.. Do recall this started with your silly assertion

through

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tortured logic from a cherry picked phrase that sugar makers now

agree

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sugar as a substance is evil.

So you agree with me in general then.

TC

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"So you agree with me in general then."

No, sugar is not evil, eating foods containing it as an added

substance is

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not evil and having it as part of a normal diet is not abnorbal and

making

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obsessive compulsive efforts to avoid it are not needed if priority

is

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first given to one's nutritional and weight status needs.

Make up your mind, one minute you agree with me the next minute you
don't.

TC

"Make up your mind, one minute you agree with me the next minute you
don't."

Reading carefully and understanding what others write seems not to be one
of your strong suites. The message I have presented in this and other
threads has always been the same from the start. When dealing with some
asserted bit of nonsense based on nutrition theology the entire message
can and should not be repeated when correcting the nonsense.

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"So you agree with me in general then."

No, sugar is not evil, eating foods containing it as an added

substance is

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not evil and having it as part of a normal diet is not abnorbal and

making

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obsessive compulsive efforts to avoid it are not needed if priority

is

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first given to one's nutritional and weight status needs.

Make up your mind, one minute you agree with me the next minute you
don't.

TC

Sugar isn't evil. It use is excessive and unwise according
way many people use it. People who push it use
maybe considered evil. The Toad seems to rushing his
postings as his spelling has degraded.

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Quoted message said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

"Meanwhile, the Sugar Association, worried about the declining sales,
is going to spend at least $3 million a year for the next three years
to give consumers "permission to use sugar," according to spokeswoman
Melanie Miller. "In moderation, it's not evil," she said, noting a
teaspoon is only 15 calories."

If sugar is not evil in moderate amounts then it must be evil in
amounts greater than moderate amounts, is it not?

TC

What they need is program to teach the alcoholic to convert
sugar into ethanol.