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  1. Hi, group!

    I recently got the idea to probably try my hand at making some kind of fruit
    spread. However, never having done that before - I'm a bachelor living by
    myself - I need to learn how.

    Now, I'm somewhat familiar with the differences between:

    --Preserves: the whole fruit, or pieces thereof, in pectin and sugar.

    --Jam: usually pieces of fruit, again preserved in a pectin-sugar
    concoction.

    --Jelly: usually the juice of a fruit, mixed with pectin and sugar. (Don't
    get me started on some off-brand jellies that are little more than a fruit
    juice mixed with pectin.)

    (Note: If I'm wrong, please correct me. I'd appreciate it.)

    In general, how would one go about making each of the above three? If you
    can share advice, I'd welcome it. If you can point me to a specific
    resource, I'd appreciate that, too.

    On a related note, does anyone know, or has tried, making some kind of jam,
    jelly or preserve out of fresh figs?

    Before I go...I was chatting with an acquaintence of mine who's a dietitian,
    and I suggested not only a fig spread - he loves figs - but I got to joking
    around with making a "coffee jelly," which he suggested I might be onto
    something. ("Tea jelly," anyone?) Heck, a coffee jelly would be great;
    spread it on your toast, and you can skip drinking a cup of joe!

    TIA

    Dieter Zakas

  2. Dieter Zakas said:

    Hi, group!

    I recently got the idea to probably try my hand at making some kind of fruit
    spread. However, never having done that before - I'm a bachelor living by
    myself - I need to learn how.

    Now, I'm somewhat familiar with the differences between:

    --Preserves: the whole fruit, or pieces thereof, in pectin and sugar.

    --Jam: usually pieces of fruit, again preserved in a pectin-sugar
    concoction.

    --Jelly: usually the juice of a fruit, mixed with pectin and sugar. (Don't
    get me started on some off-brand jellies that are little more than a fruit
    juice mixed with pectin.)

    (Note: If I'm wrong, please correct me. I'd appreciate it.)

    In general, how would one go about making each of the above three? If you
    can share advice, I'd welcome it. If you can point me to a specific
    resource, I'd appreciate that, too.

    On a related note, does anyone know, or has tried, making some kind of jam,
    jelly or preserve out of fresh figs?

    Before I go...I was chatting with an acquaintence of mine who's a dietitian,
    and I suggested not only a fig spread - he loves figs - but I got to joking
    around with making a "coffee jelly," which he suggested I might be onto
    something. ("Tea jelly," anyone?) Heck, a coffee jelly would be great;
    spread it on your toast, and you can skip drinking a cup of joe!

    TIA

    Dieter Zakas

    Post this in rec.food.preserving and you should get lots of help -- it's
    what we talk about over there. George makes really good fig preserves,
    and I'll bet you could talk him into posting the recipe again.

    I recommend you start with jam rather than jelly. Jam is easier, and
    IMHO it tastes better (it just doesn't look as pretty).

    Best regards,
    Bob

  3. Dieter Zakas said:

    I recently got the idea to probably try my hand at making some kind of fruit
    spread. However, never having done that before - I'm a bachelor living by
    myself - I need to learn how.

    It's a good thing to learn how to do. You can make good jams and jellies at home
    at a fraction of the cost of buying them, and you have a much better product.

    Quoted message said:

    Now, I'm somewhat familiar with the differences between:

    --Preserves: the whole fruit, or pieces thereof, in pectin and sugar.

    --Jam: usually pieces of fruit, again preserved in a pectin-sugar
    concoction.

    --Jelly: usually the juice of a fruit, mixed with pectin and sugar. (Don't
    get me started on some off-brand jellies that are little more than a fruit
    juice mixed with pectin.)

    (Note: If I'm wrong, please correct me. I'd appreciate it.)

    That's basically it, except that you don't always need pectin. Some fruits have
    enough pectin that you do not need to add any, and it is possible to simply cook
    down fruit until it's natural supply does the job.

    Quoted message said:

    In general, how would one go about making each of the above three? If you
    can share advice, I'd welcome it. If you can point me to a specific
    resource, I'd appreciate that, too.

    You start off with fresh ingredients, so that means it is a seasonal thing. When
    the local produce is ripe and at the market you take it home and get started.
    You can use frozen fruit.

    You will need a supply of jam jars (and tops) which you can pick up at grocery
    or hardware stores, lots of sugar and some reasonably fresh pectin. I use Certo.
    Each package of Certo has an insert with recipes for jams and jellies. They are
    tried and true recipes, so they are a good place to start.

    The first step is to clean and sterilize the jars, tops and utensils. Prepare
    the fruit as per the instructions. Put the fruit and sugar into a heavy pot and
    bring it to a rolling boil and keep it boiling for a few minutes, again as per
    the recipe. Take the pot off the heat and add the prescribed amount of Certo.
    Some jams need to sit a minute or two to allow the bits of fruit to settle
    evenly. Using sterilized utensils, pour the jam into the jars to about 1/4 "
    from the top. Put the tops on and twist them tight. Sometimes you need to turn
    them invert them a few times while they set to prevent the fruit from settling
    to the top (or bottom). As the jars and their contents cool off you should hear
    the tops popping. That's a good sign that they are properly sealed and there is
    a vacuum.

    FWIW, the next thing likely to be in season is Seville Oranges. They make the
    best marmalade (IMO), and require no added pectin

    Quoted message said:

    Before I go...I was chatting with an acquaintence of mine who's a dietitian,
    and I suggested not only a fig spread - he loves figs - but I got to joking
    around with making a "coffee jelly," which he suggested I might be onto
    something. ("Tea jelly," anyone?) Heck, a coffee jelly would be great;
    spread it on your toast, and you can skip drinking a cup of joe!

    Sorry, but I just can't imagine coffee jelly being very good. :-)

  4. Dieter Zakas said:


    Hi, group!

    I recently got the idea to probably try my hand at making some kind of fruit
    spread.

    Try making apple butter: My mother lightly steamed good quality apples
    (not mealy things like delicious), put them through the apple sauce
    maker (metal blade with twirly handle that pushes apples through a
    seive), and then put these over low heat in a heavy heavy pan, a stick
    of cinn. one clove a few pinches sugar, and long slow cooking and
    stirring a lot towards the end, until it is a dark, rich paste.

    My other thought is freezer preserves. I've never ever flubbed them.
    blacksalt

  5. Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Dieter Zakas wrote:

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Before I go...I was chatting with an acquaintence of mine who's a
    dietitian, and I suggested not only a fig spread - he loves figs -
    but I got to joking around with making a "coffee jelly," which he
    suggested I might be onto something. ("Tea jelly," anyone?) Heck, a
    coffee jelly would be great; spread it on your toast, and you can
    skip drinking a cup of joe!

    Sorry, but I just can't imagine coffee jelly being very good. :-)

    Or tea jelly, for that matter. But fig jam is realllly good. In the
    original post, the OP asked whether anyone had tried making a jam, melly
    or preserve from fresh figs. I've not made it myself, but it is
    commercially available here so I dare say there are plenty of recipes
    around. And it tastes reallllly good (did I say that already??).

    Rhonda Anderson
    Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

  6. in article [email hidden], Rhonda Anderson
    at [email hidden] wrote on 1/11/05 7:06:

    Quoted message said:

    Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Dieter Zakas wrote:

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Before I go...I was chatting with an acquaintence of mine who's a
    dietitian, and I suggested not only a fig spread - he loves figs -
    but I got to joking around with making a "coffee jelly," which he
    suggested I might be onto something. ("Tea jelly," anyone?) Heck, a
    coffee jelly would be great; spread it on your toast, and you can
    skip drinking a cup of joe!

    Sorry, but I just can't imagine coffee jelly being very good. :-)

    Or tea jelly, for that matter. But fig jam is realllly good. In the
    original post, the OP asked whether anyone had tried making a jam, melly
    or preserve from fresh figs. I've not made it myself, but it is
    commercially available here so I dare say there are plenty of recipes
    around. And it tastes reallllly good (did I say that already??).

    Rhonda Anderson
    Cranebrook, NSW, Australia


    Thanks for all the help, guys! You're great!

    Special note to Bob: thanks for pointing me to the rec.food.preserving NG!

    As Peter Falk's Columbo used to say, "One more 'one more thing':" I've
    accumulated a number of jars whose original contents were jams and jellies
    of various kinds. Could I use these once I've sterilized them?

    Dieter Zakas

  7. Dieter Zakas said:


    As Peter Falk's Columbo used to say, "One more 'one more thing':" I've
    accumulated a number of jars whose original contents were jams and jellies
    of various kinds. Could I use these once I've sterilized them?

    The jam/preserving jars have some advantages. They have a nice wide top which
    makes filling easy. The tops are interchangeable, so you don't have to scramble
    around matching tops to jars. The tops are replaceable. Most stores that sell
    the jars also sell the cap rings and sealer lids, together or separately.

    You can definitely use old jars that have been washed and sterilized. My
    mother used to use them all the time. A lot of her jam went into baby food
    jars, small jars for samplers and the large size for regular use. She also used
    old jars from commercial jams, peanut butter, honey, pickles etc. .

    When using those jars it is difficult to get a good seal. Some of those jars
    may have had some sort of paper or plastic sealer stuck on top of the jar or
    inserted into the lid, so they simply cannot be relied upon. That is where
    paraffin wax comes into the picture. While you are cooking up your jam you
    melt some paraffin. It should be melted in a container immersed in boiling
    water. Put the cooked jam into the jars and then pour some of the liquid wax
    over the surface. Give the wax a few minutes to harden and then screw the top
    on.

    BTW... you should get a wide mouthed funnel to use when putting the hot jam
    into the jars. You want to be careful not to slop the jam on the sides os the
    jars because it will interfere with a good sanitary seal. There will be that
    little gap where bacteria can get in and nibble on the jam, possibly getting
    into the jar.

  8. Dieter Zakas said:

    in article [email hidden], Rhonda Anderson
    at [email hidden] wrote on 1/11/05 7:06:

    Quoted message said:

    Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Dieter Zakas wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    >Before I go...I was chatting with an acquaintence of mine who's a
    >dietitian, and I suggested not only a fig spread - he loves figs -
    >but I got to joking around with making a "coffee jelly," which he
    >suggested I might be onto something. ("Tea jelly," anyone?) Heck, a
    >coffee jelly would be great; spread it on your toast, and you can
    >skip drinking a cup of joe!

    Sorry, but I just can't imagine coffee jelly being very good. :-)

    Or tea jelly, for that matter. But fig jam is realllly good. In the
    original post, the OP asked whether anyone had tried making a jam, melly
    or preserve from fresh figs. I've not made it myself, but it is
    commercially available here so I dare say there are plenty of recipes
    around. And it tastes reallllly good (did I say that already??).

    Rhonda Anderson
    Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

    Thanks for all the help, guys! You're great!

    Special note to Bob: thanks for pointing me to the rec.food.preserving NG!

    As Peter Falk's Columbo used to say, "One more 'one more thing':" I've
    accumulated a number of jars whose original contents were jams and jellies
    of various kinds. Could I use these once I've sterilized them?

    You can probably reuse them, but reusing the jars might be a false
    economy unless standard canning jar lids fit them.

    The lid matters more than the jar unless you are going to seal them the
    old fashioned way with paraffin. (In this case, "old fashioned" is not
    good; paraffin is expensive and would often lose the seal and your jam
    would mold.)

    Canning jars are not very expensive and are designed to be used over and
    over again -- you just use a new lid each time. New jelly jars with
    lids and rings are about $5 per dozen at Bit Lot's. New lids without
    rings are about $1 per box of a dozen.

    Best regards,
    Bob

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