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  1. Damsel said:
    Don Gray said:

    I am from the UK but I read this newsgroup regularly and contribute
    occasionally, if appropriate. However, from the first comment of Lucy I
    suspected a sort of arrogance that is rarely encounted here. An ignorance of
    food or cooking standards mixed with the ability to sweetie-pie (con!) people
    into believing that 'she' was sincere.

    I began a post stating the same beliefs, but deleted it, thinking that,
    although hoodwinked, people would eventually recognise her for what she
    really was. I hope that she will now disappear from whence she came, without
    pretending that her only interest in this group is 'food'.

    I've been accused of being too open, positive, and forgiving. Guilty as
    charged, but I still feel like a fool when something like this happens.

    Damsel, sitting in the corner in a pointy hat

    Right beside ya. My hat's biiigggger, my hat's biiigggers.. ;-)

    --
    Steve

    Ever wonder about those people who spend $2.00 apiece on those little
    bottles of Evian water? Try spelling Evian backwards...

  2. I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to post however I see fit. So,
    if you hate top posted remarks, don't read them! I'm not downloading
    anything to move the cursor (although that was a kind suggestion), and I'm
    not changing newsgroup readers.
    It has been my experience with computers that the less I change on them, the
    longer they seem to work <g>
    So.. to horribly chop up a Plato quote...
    Let the poster post, and let the reader read!

    lubbs!
    lucy 🙂
    p.s. If it means so much to any individual here, you are welcome to pay me
    to learn all the rules and apply them with each post.
    <grins>

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Lucy said:

    I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to post however I see fit. So,
    if you hate top posted remarks, don't read them! I'm not downloading
    anything to move the cursor (although that was a kind suggestion), and I'm
    not changing newsgroup readers.
    It has been my experience with computers that the less I change on them, the
    longer they seem to work <g>
    So.. to horribly chop up a Plato quote...
    Let the poster post, and let the reader read!

    lubbs!
    lucy 🙂
    p.s. If it means so much to any individual here, you are welcome to pay me
    to learn all the rules and apply them with each post.
    <grins>

    <plonk>

  4. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:57:04 GMT, "Lucy" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Hi Lucy,

    HERE'S WHAT YOU POSTED IN THIS THREAD:

    Quoted message said:

    I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to post however I see fit. So,
    if you hate top posted remarks, don't read them! I'm not downloading
    anything to move the cursor (although that was a kind suggestion), and I'm
    not changing newsgroup readers.
    It has been my experience with computers that the less I change on them, the
    longer they seem to work <g>
    So.. to horribly chop up a Plato quote...
    Let the poster post, and let the reader read!

    HERE'S ANOTHER POST ON THE SAME TOPIC:

    "Oh Herbie.. (may I call you that? I probably will until you request
    otherwise, then I will respect your wishes)..
    Not you too on the bottom posting!
    I try .. but, funny thing.. as I am driving home each evening my brain
    curls up and falls asleep at the base of my cranium.. and tends to stay
    there, sleeping peacefully, until the next morning on the way to work.

    Can you see how one post makes you sound like a [censored], and one makes you
    sound like a ditzy (such as myself)? I think I like the ditzy better. 🙂

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Lucy said:

    I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to post however I see fit. So,

    If your objective in posting is to reach an audience, then it
    behooves you to post in a fashion acceptable to the community you're
    communicating with. Bottom posting is simply good netiquette.

    If I said, "I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to belch,
    fart loudly, and even masturbate in fancy restaurants whenever
    I have the urge," then you get the flavor of your decision with
    respect to-top posting in newsgroups.

    When engaging in social discourse, refraining from polite behavior
    throws sand into machinery that already works with difficulty at
    best. It's not hard to avoid offending people... unless you're so
    lazy you don't care.

    And if you're going to do that, why bother posting at all?

    I'll leave you with the following dialogue, which imitates what
    you're suggesting:

    A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
    A: Top-posting.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?

    -A

  6. "Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:57:04 GMT, "Lucy" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Hi Lucy,

    HERE'S WHAT YOU POSTED IN THIS THREAD:

    Quoted message said:

    I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to post however I see fit.
    So,
    if you hate top posted remarks, don't read them! I'm not downloading
    anything to move the cursor (although that was a kind suggestion), and I'm
    not changing newsgroup readers.
    It has been my experience with computers that the less I change on them,
    the
    longer they seem to work <g>
    So.. to horribly chop up a Plato quote...
    Let the poster post, and let the reader read!

    HERE'S ANOTHER POST ON THE SAME TOPIC:

    "Oh Herbie.. (may I call you that? I probably will until you request
    otherwise, then I will respect your wishes)..
    Not you too on the bottom posting!
    I try .. but, funny thing.. as I am driving home each evening my brain
    curls up and falls asleep at the base of my cranium.. and tends to stay
    there, sleeping peacefully, until the next morning on the way to work.

    Can you see how one post makes you sound like a [censored], and one makes you
    sound like a ditzy (such as myself)? I think I like the ditzy better. 🙂

    Carol

    Carol,
    Since the only places I've been called a [censored] is in newsgroups and in
    chatrooms, it really doesn't bother me. The tone "heard" reveals more about
    the person perceiving it, than the person who did the typing.
    lucy 🙂

  7. "Lucy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to post however I see


    fit. So,

    Quoted message said:

    if you hate top posted remarks, don't read them! I'm not downloading
    anything to move the cursor (although that was a kind suggestion),


    and I'm

    Quoted message said:

    not changing newsgroup readers.
    It has been my experience with computers that the less I change on


    them, the

    Quoted message said:

    longer they seem to work <g>
    So.. to horribly chop up a Plato quote...
    Let the poster post, and let the reader read!

    OK I'm not going to hate you if this is what you choose to do ...
    Buts is it really that much more difficult to post below a foregoing
    quoted post to which you are responding?

    I used to top post also until it was explained WHY doind so makes it
    unreasonably awkward and more difficult for others to follow the
    discussion, especially if there are one or more other posters that
    successively respond to your comment and to those that follow. This is
    just a matter of etiquette and consideration for everyone else. And
    maybe I missed something but I have no idea what you mean by
    "downloading anything to move the cursor."

  8. Lucy said:

    Carol,
    Since the only places I've been called a [censored] is in newsgroups and in
    chatrooms, it really doesn't bother me. The tone "heard" reveals more about
    the person perceiving it, than the person who did the typing.
    lucy 🙂

    I just wanted to point out that you are sending out some unattractive
    signals. If that doesn't bother you, no sweat. I was just trying to be
    helpful.

    Carol, the Unrelenting [censored]
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  9. Damsel said:
    Lucy said:

    Carol,
    Since the only places I've been called a [censored] is in newsgroups and in
    chatrooms, it really doesn't bother me. The tone "heard" reveals more about
    the person perceiving it, than the person who did the typing.
    lucy 🙂

    I just wanted to point out that you are sending out some unattractive
    signals. If that doesn't bother you, no sweat. I was just trying to be
    helpful.

    Carol, the Unrelenting [censored]

    Carol, I think you hit the nail on the head here.
    I sit here vacillating between judging this poster
    a troll or just thoughtless/clueless? Some
    definite mixed signals. But once again your
    graciousness shines as you trudge on assuming the
    best about her and trying to help out.
    Only time will tell, huh?
    Goomba

  10. It works top or bottom, as seen here.

    "Lucy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've decided, after a few minutes of thought, to post however I see fit.


    So,

    Quoted message said:

    if you hate top posted remarks, don't read them! I'm not downloading
    anything to move the cursor (although that was a kind suggestion), and I'm
    not changing newsgroup readers.
    It has been my experience with computers that the less I change on them,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    longer they seem to work <g>
    So.. to horribly chop up a Plato quote...
    Let the poster post, and let the reader read!

    lubbs!
    lucy 🙂
    p.s. If it means so much to any individual here, you are welcome to pay me
    to learn all the rules and apply them with each post.
    <grins>

    It works top or bottom, as seen here.

  11. "Lucy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've decided, after a few minutes of thought,
    to post however I see fit. So, if you hate top
    posted remarks, don't read them!

    Obviously, that's your prerogative. Of course, if you plan to get
    along in a community, it behooves you to follow the community's
    standards.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not downloading anything to move the
    cursor (although that was a kind suggestion),
    and I'm not changing newsgroup readers.

    You don't need to do either of those things. The whole reason your --
    and many -- news readers place the cursor at the top of your reply is
    *not* so that you can just start typing; it's so that you will *trim*
    the post you're replying to, thus saving bandwidth for those who are
    on dial-up (and there are still plenty of those people in the US *and*
    around the world) *and* making your post easier to read. For example,
    insertions between the original text, as I'm doing, makes it more
    clear what exactly I'm responding to and helps make my post
    understandable even in the event of poor message propagation and/or
    threading (poor propagation continues to be a problem with many news
    servers).

    Quoted message said:

    It has been my experience with computers
    that the less I change on them, the longer
    they seem to work <g>

    For the purpose of illustration, I'm leaving the above sentence in; my
    first inclination was to delete it, since I'm not going to respond to
    it.

    Quoted message said:

    So.. to horribly chop up a Plato quote...
    Let the poster post, and let the reader read!

    p.s. If it means so much to any individual here,
    you are welcome to pay me to learn all the rules
    and apply them with each post.

    I'd have to agree with another poster down-thread; your tone indicates
    [censored] to me as well (note I'm not calling *you* a [censored], a
    distinction worth noting), and an unwillingness to learn. While I
    note that you say interpretation of tone says more about the reader
    .... well, I would just gently remind you that the onus of clear
    communication starts with the writer, not the reader. Usenet is a
    written medium, and we are therefore without the benefit of facial
    expression and body language to clarify your tone.

    As for the rules, there are very few for you to remember; if you
    follow along with how just about everyone else here posts (well, you
    could *snip* more than most people here 🙂), you'll be fine.

    A couple of sites that you will find useful:
    http://www.ibiblio.org/usenet-i/usenet-help.html
    http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- if nothing else,
    read section 2: Quoting and Answering. If you follow the guidelines,
    I guarantee it will make your entire Usenet experience much more
    pleasant.
    -j

  12. Goomba38 said:

    Carol, I think you hit the nail on the head here.
    I sit here vacillating between judging this poster
    a troll or just thoughtless/clueless? Some
    definite mixed signals. But once again your
    graciousness shines as you trudge on assuming the
    best about her and trying to help out.
    Only time will tell, huh?
    Goomba

    Hey! Don't be calling me gracious, Goomba. It's already been determined
    that I am a [censored]. Do I get to be Queen [censored], or is that title already
    taken? Even [censored] in Training would be an honor. Please let me know.

    Carol
    --
    "There's things about me you don't know, Dottie.
    Things you wouldn't understand. Things you couldn't
    understand. Things you shouldn't understand.... I'm
    a loner, Dottie. A rebel"

    *Paul Reubens* in the 1985 movie, _Pee Wee's Big Adventure_

  13. Damsel said:

    Hey! Don't be calling me gracious, Goomba. It's already been determined
    that I am a [censored]. Do I get to be Queen [censored], or is that title already
    taken? Even [censored] in Training would be an honor. Please let me know.

    Carol

    LOL, You're a [censored]? I musta missed that
    proclamation. Damn.. you trollops get to be the
    besttttttttttt things. I'm so jealous. We
    B-listers just have to keep trying harder. LOL
    Goomba

  14. On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:34:35 -0800, "Sam D."
    <[email hidden]> scribbled some thoughts:

    Quoted message said:

    maybe I missed something but I have no idea what you mean by
    "downloading anything to move the cursor."

    That would be in reference to some software which can
    automagically place the cursor at the bottom. I believe OE
    Quote Fix can do that. But a quick: CTRL+End will take it
    to the bottom.

    --

    Sincerely, | NOTE: Best viewed in a fixed pitch font
    | (©) (©)
    Andrew H. Carter | ------ooo--(_)--ooo------
    d(-_-)b | /// \\\

  15. Carol said:

    Hey! Don't be calling me gracious, Goomba. It's already been determined
    that I am a [censored]. Do I get to be Queen [censored], or is that title already
    taken? Even [censored] in Training would be an honor. Please let me know.

    Trollops and [censored] and Queens, oh my!

    Bob

  16. Goomba38 said:
    Damsel said:

    Hey! Don't be calling me gracious, Goomba. It's already been determined
    that I am a [censored]. Do I get to be Queen [censored], or is that title already
    taken? Even [censored] in Training would be an honor. Please let me know.

    Carol

    LOL, You're a [censored]? I musta missed that
    proclamation. Damn.. you trollops get to be the
    besttttttttttt things. I'm so jealous. We
    B-listers just have to keep trying harder. LOL
    Goomba

    Who ever said that you weren't a trollop? If anyone tells you otherwise,
    just send 'em to me. I'll set 'em straight.

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  17. Bob' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:
    Carol said:

    Hey! Don't be calling me gracious, Goomba. It's already been determined
    that I am a [censored]. Do I get to be Queen [censored], or is that title already
    taken? Even [censored] in Training would be an honor. Please let me know.

    Trollops and [censored] and Queens, oh my!

    Bob

    If you start skipping, it's all over between us!

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  18. Carol said:

    If you start skipping, it's all over between us!

    The State of California has requested that I abstain from skipping, due to
    the seismic activity which results from it.

    Bob

  19. "Andrew H. Carter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:34:35 -0800, "Sam D."
    <[email hidden]> scribbled some thoughts:

    Quoted message said:

    maybe I missed something but I have no idea what you mean by
    "downloading anything to move the cursor."

    That would be in reference to some software which can
    automagically place the cursor at the bottom. I believe OE
    Quote Fix can do that. But a quick: CTRL+End will take it
    to the bottom.

    On my computer I don't have to CTRL+End; I only have to click "End."
    When I'm going thru the postings, I just keep my finger on "End."
    To read the top posters, of course, I don't have to click "End." But after
    awhile, I do stop reading top postings, they usually are quick quips and not
    to the point, and too much trouble for me.
    Dee

  20. Bob said:
    Carol said:

    If you start skipping, it's all over between us!

    The State of California has requested that I abstain from skipping,
    due to the seismic activity which results from it.

    Bob

    ROFL, DAMN, that was funnny, Bob. Wow, so funny I stuck an extra "n" in the
    word! <g>

    kili

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