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  1. I have a question. I have been trying to find the legend of the White
    Tiger. Does anyone know where I can find it. I am also looking for
    pictures.

    I am going for another tatoo in May and it will be a white tiger. I
    read the legend a long time ago, but I've forgotten the whole story. I
    have to find the perfect picture as well.

    I am not the tattoed woman or anything but I have a few small ones. All
    significant points in my life. This will be my last one. I had to reach
    a certain point in my life to have the tiger done. OK, so I am nuts.
    But its important to me.

    I think the legend is from China.

    Maggie.

  2. In news:[email hidden],
    Maggie <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    I have a question. I have been trying to find the legend of the White
    Tiger. Does anyone know where I can find it. I am also looking for
    pictures.

    http://users.aristotle.net/~swarmack/tiger.html

    http://www.magiccarpet.com/~cgrafe/tiger3.html

    Quoted message said:


    I am going for another tatoo in May and it will be a white tiger. I
    read the legend a long time ago, but I've forgotten the whole story. I
    have to find the perfect picture as well.

    I am not the tattoed woman or anything but I have a few small ones.
    All significant points in my life. This will be my last one. I had to
    reach a certain point in my life to have the tiger done. OK, so I am
    nuts. But its important to me.

    I think the legend is from China.

    Maggie.

  3. Roger Zoul said:

    In news:[email hidden],
    Maggie <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    I have a question. I have been trying to find the legend of the


    White

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tiger. Does anyone know where I can find it. I am also looking


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pictures.

    http://users.aristotle.net/~swarmack/tiger.html

    http://www.magiccarpet.com/~cgrafe/tiger3.html

    Quoted message said:


    I am going for another tatoo in May and it will be a white tiger. I
    read the legend a long time ago, but I've forgotten the whole


    story. I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have to find the perfect picture as well.

    I am not the tattoed woman or anything but I have a few small ones.
    All significant points in my life. This will be my last one. I had


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    reach a certain point in my life to have the tiger done. OK, so I


    am

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nuts. But its important to me.

    I think the legend is from China.

    Maggie.

    Thanks, I think I found the picture I am going to take to the artist. I
    just learned a heck of a lot about white tigers.

    I keep thinking there is a "chinese legend" about them. Maybe it is
    just the legend of a tiger. I could have sworn it was a chinese
    legend.
    Maggie.

  4. In news:[email hidden],
    Maggie <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:
    Roger Zoul said:

    In news:[email hidden],
    Maggie <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    I have a question. I have been trying to find the legend of the


    White

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tiger. Does anyone know where I can find it. I am also looking


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pictures.

    http://users.aristotle.net/~swarmack/tiger.html

    http://www.magiccarpet.com/~cgrafe/tiger3.html

    Quoted message said:


    I am going for another tatoo in May and it will be a white tiger. I
    read the legend a long time ago, but I've forgotten the whole


    story. I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have to find the perfect picture as well.

    I am not the tattoed woman or anything but I have a few small ones.
    All significant points in my life. This will be my last one. I had


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    reach a certain point in my life to have the tiger done. OK, so I


    am

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nuts. But its important to me.

    I think the legend is from China.

    Maggie.

    Thanks, I think I found the picture I am going to take to the artist.
    I just learned a heck of a lot about white tigers.

    I keep thinking there is a "chinese legend" about them. Maybe it is
    just the legend of a tiger. I could have sworn it was a chinese
    legend.
    Maggie.

    I really don't have a clue about the legend, so I just posted those for some
    pics. Your search continues, I guess.

  5. Maggie wrote . . . about White Tiger [snip]

    The usual convention for posting something off-topic is to put "[OT]" before
    the subject line.

    Example: [OT]: The legend of White Tiger

  6. Neil Brooks said:

    Maggie wrote . . . about White Tiger [snip]

    The usual convention for posting something off-topic is to put "[OT]"


    before

    Quoted message said:

    the subject line.

    Example: [OT]: The legend of White Tiger

    OK if I post another OT, I will be sure to preface it with OT. But
    before I post anything I will make sure I google it until I can google
    no more. Are there any other rules I should know about? I'm sure if I
    don't follow procedure I will be informed by someone.

    There is something to be said about the good ole' days before the
    internet. You actually had face to face conversations, you knew who
    you were speaking to, no one could hide behind a screen name, and your
    knowledge and intelligence were not googled.

    Now we can write on a newsgroup as if we have a Ph.d in every subject.
    Just GOOGLE IT. You can even google a term paper in college. Give me
    the good old days, when we knew who was intelligent, who was stupid and
    no one could hide and google their responses. I will remember OT...but
    in my life OT is when I work past 5:00 and get time and a half.
    Maggie

    To the Chinese the white tiger was the king of all animals and lord of
    the mountains

  7. Neil Brooks said:
    Quoted message said:

    The usual convention for posting something off-topic is to put
    "[OT]" before the subject line.

    Example: [OT]: The legend of White Tiger

    Maggie said:

    OK if I post another OT, I will be sure to preface it with OT. But
    before I post anything I will make sure I google it until I can google
    no more. Are there any other rules I should know about? I'm sure if
    I don't follow procedure I will be informed by someone.

    Exactly!

    Quoted message said:

    There is something to be said about the good ole' days before the
    internet. You actually had face to face conversations, you knew who
    you were speaking to, no one could hide behind a screen name, and your
    knowledge and intelligence were not googled.

    I like the "[OT]" thing.

    One of my good friends, in face-to-face conversation, has been known to
    preface a rant with, "Forgive me while I digress into a long-winded and not
    particularly relevant rant rife with useless details." You kind of drift
    off into meditation for about four minutes, then tune back in as he wraps it
    up ;-)

  8. Neil Brooks said:
    Neil Brooks said:
    Quoted message said:

    The usual convention for posting something off-topic is to put
    "[OT]" before the subject line.

    Example: [OT]: The legend of White Tiger

    Maggie said:

    OK if I post another OT, I will be sure to preface it with OT. But
    before I post anything I will make sure I google it until I can


    google

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    no more. Are there any other rules I should know about? I'm sure


    if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I don't follow procedure I will be informed by someone.

    Exactly!

    Quoted message said:

    There is something to be said about the good ole' days before the
    internet. You actually had face to face conversations, you knew


    who

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you were speaking to, no one could hide behind a screen name, and


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    knowledge and intelligence were not googled.

    I like the "[OT]" thing.

    One of my good friends, in face-to-face conversation, has been known


    to

    Quoted message said:

    preface a rant with, "Forgive me while I digress into a long-winded


    and not

    Quoted message said:

    particularly relevant rant rife with useless details." You kind of


    drift

    Quoted message said:

    off into meditation for about four minutes, then tune back in as he


    wraps it

    Quoted message said:

    up ;-)

    Do you google up your Meditations before he goes off into his Rant.
    Google will give you meditations that are OT for your state of mind
    while he is completely NOT OT.

    In my humble opinion and rant.....I believe there are no "useless
    details" in conversation. "STIFLE IT EDITH" as Archie Bunker used to
    say....is the impatience of the times. The inability to listen to
    anything that is not short and to the point.

    Hey, lets all learn to stay on topic, short, to the point, and never
    ramble. Let's all be robotic techie information feeders. No color, no
    character....just pure OT info. Keep adjectives to the bare minimum.
    Never add flowery verse, adjectives, adverbs or discriptive sentences
    to a post. STAY OT or be chastised.

    Maggie. (Always ready to ramble)

    PS...stay away from the old people in the park if they decide to share
    some wisdom with you. They tend to ramble. How dare they!
    Maggie....Long winded and off topic.

  9. "Maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have a question. I have been trying to find the legend of the White
    Tiger. Does anyone know where I can find it. I am also looking for
    pictures.

    I noticed you already found some info, but I wanted to add:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger#Physical_characteristics

    --
    Scott Ehardt
    http://www.scehardt.com

  10. In news:[email hidden],
    Neil Brooks <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    One of my good friends, in face-to-face conversation, has been known
    to preface a rant with, "Forgive me while I digress into a
    long-winded and not particularly relevant rant rife with useless
    details." You kind of drift off into meditation for about four
    minutes, then tune back in as he wraps it up ;-)

    🙂

  11. In news:[email hidden],
    Maggie <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    Maggie. (Always ready to ramble)

    PS...stay away from the old people in the park if they decide to share
    some wisdom with you. They tend to ramble. How dare they!
    Maggie....Long winded and off topic.

    Well, in spite of all this...in many situations, googling with get you your
    info quicker than asking in a post. So, when people suggest it, they are
    trying to be helpful.

  12. Quoted message said:

    Thanks for your kind and thoughtful understanding. I will look
    elsewhere for the chinese legend Brendon M Troy. Maybe I will just ask
    the guy who does my nails. He actually might know and not have to
    google every damn piece of information he needs. With google around, we
    have no idea who is actually intelligent and who just knows how to
    google. You can fake alot on the internet as far as knowledge. Its in
    the real world without google in front of you, where you show your real
    smarts. Thanks for pissing me off. I was having a good day.
    Maggie.

    Maggie: One only need look as far as rec.bicycles.racing or
    rec.travel.europe to see how bad things can get if there isn't a
    self-correcting aspect to a newsgroup (to keep them on-target). Without
    that, the signal-to-noise ratio can make the group virtually worthless for
    the intended subject.

    Having said that, a polite reminder of where one might best look for the
    information is always best, and perhaps subsequent end-of-thread indication
    in the subject line from the original poster, letting people know that the
    quest is over.

    Nearly all of us have been "guilty" of straying off-topic from time to time,
    usually after a relevant (on-topic) post has begun to go astray. That's
    slightly different from beginning something that's off-topic, since it arose
    during "conversation" as it were. Still, it's something to be recognized and
    minimized, in order to have the most-functional newsgroup possible.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    IMBA, BikesBelong, NBDA member

  13. Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for your kind and thoughtful understanding. I will look
    elsewhere for the chinese legend Brendon M Troy. Maybe I will just


    ask

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the guy who does my nails. He actually might know and not have to
    google every damn piece of information he needs. With google


    around, we

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have no idea who is actually intelligent and who just knows how to
    google. You can fake alot on the internet as far as knowledge. Its


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the real world without google in front of you, where you show your


    real

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    smarts. Thanks for pissing me off. I was having a good day.
    Maggie.

    Maggie: One only need look as far as rec.bicycles.racing or
    rec.travel.europe to see how bad things can get if there isn't a
    self-correcting aspect to a newsgroup (to keep them on-target).


    Without

    Quoted message said:

    that, the signal-to-noise ratio can make the group virtually


    worthless for

    Quoted message said:

    the intended subject.

    Having said that, a polite reminder of where one might best look for


    the

    Quoted message said:

    information is always best, and perhaps subsequent end-of-thread


    indication

    Quoted message said:

    in the subject line from the original poster, letting people know


    that the

    Quoted message said:

    quest is over.

    Nearly all of us have been "guilty" of straying off-topic from time


    to time,

    Quoted message said:

    usually after a relevant (on-topic) post has begun to go astray.


    That's

    Quoted message said:

    slightly different from beginning something that's off-topic, since


    it arose

    Quoted message said:

    during "conversation" as it were. Still, it's something to be


    recognized and

    Quoted message said:

    minimized, in order to have the most-functional newsgroup possible.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    IMBA, BikesBelong, NBDA member

    I understand your point. I just want to find this legend. I tried
    googling and I can't find it. I don't profess to be an expert at
    searching...I googled as much as I could and I took a shot that someone
    on this NG would remember it. Most seem rather intelligent and well
    read.

    Sometimes I feel as if I know people on the NG personally because I
    have read the stories they write. I guess I was becoming too "real
    world" friendly as opposed to bicycle newsgroup friendly.

    The legend is Chinese and its about a woman and a tiger. Sorry I became
    frustrated with the responses I received.

    I will look for a newsgroup about myths and legends and maybe someone
    will know. There must be a group like that I am sure. Since googling is
    not working for me, I will take another avenue. And I will be on topic.

    I apologize for posting OT. Everytime someone tells me I am doing
    something wrong, I try to correct it. But gosh there are way too many
    rules in this NG and I was never one to follow the rules. If I receive
    an answer and find the legend...I will post a link.
    All Good things,
    Maggie

  14. In news:[email hidden],
    Maggie <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    The legend is Chinese and its about a woman and a tiger. Sorry I
    became frustrated with the responses I received.

    I will look for a newsgroup about myths and legends and maybe someone
    will know. There must be a group like that I am sure. Since googling
    is not working for me, I will take another avenue. And I will be on
    topic.

    Tiger
    "West - the White Tiger, Autumn, Wind, Metal; Planet, Venus; lungs and small
    intestine (Mackenzie)."
    "...The White Tiger of the West, for instance, is associated with metal.
    When, therefore, metal is placed in a grave, a ceremonial connection with
    the tiger-god is effected. 'According to the Annals of Wu and Yueh, three
    days after the burial of the king, the essence of the element metal assumed
    the shape of a white tiger and crouched down on the top of the grave.' Here
    the tiger is a protector - a preserver.
    ....As we have seen, white jade was used when the Tiger god of the West was
    worshipped; it is known as 'tiger jade'; a tiger was depicted on the jade
    symbol. To the Chinese the tiger was the king of all animals and 'lord of
    the mountains', and the tiger-jade ornament was specially researved for
    commanders of armies. The male tiger was, among other things, the god of
    war, and in this capacity it not only assisted the armies of the emperors,
    but fought the demons that threatened the dead in their graves (Mackenzie)."

    http://www.sempai.org/~felicia/myth.html

  15. A wonderful person on this NG sent me in the right direction to bring
    my search to a fruitful end. He sent me to the Amazon book site. The
    book is found and it is ordered. The story is a vignette within the
    book.

    I guess googling is not the way to go at all times.
    All Good things

    Maggie

  16. "Maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I have a question. I have been trying to find the legend of the


    White

    Quoted message said:

    Tiger. Does anyone know where I can find it. I am also


    looking for

    Quoted message said:

    pictures.
    I think the legend is from China.

    http://tinyurl.com/6w5wa
    http://tinyurl.com/5bcm3

    are a few links that come close but don't seem to be exactly what
    you think you're looking for. What stood out to me in googling
    was a) the white tiger may be up there with the rose or the Taz
    in terms of clicheed tattoos (and tattoo shops, and ink
    companies, etc...), which is fine, so long as you understand that
    going in and don't think it will be original and b) the white
    tiger tattoo, along with the black dragon, is one half of the
    tattoo pattern that Triad members (http://tinyurl.com/3jfvh) must
    get in order to finally join the organized crime syndicate. In
    fact, "white tiger, black dragon" is a euphamism in Hong Kong for
    a gangster. You should also realize this, if it matters to you.

    HTH,
    Brendon

  17. "Maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    A wonderful person on this NG sent me in the right direction to


    bring

    Quoted message said:

    my search to a fruitful end. He sent me to the Amazon book


    site

    Quoted message said:


    I guess googling is not the way to go at all times.

    I hate to appear to be flaming you here, but I'm afraid you're
    operating under a lot of misconceptions that are keeping you from
    living a much easier and more efficient life - namely, that
    google is not always the answer - while technically true, the
    instances of google not being the answer are so few and far
    between, they're almost religious events ;-) To wit, had you
    googled "white tiger" "chinese story", "White Tiger, Blue
    Serpent" by Grace Tseng - the book to which I assume you are
    referring - would've been the *first* result. I'm assuming that's
    how this wonderful person got his/her knowledge. I say this again
    not to flame you, but to hopefully lead you down a wonderful path
    in which you find information quickly, efficiently, and (most
    importantly) independently for yourself. It'll be great, I
    promise!

    -Brendon

  18. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Well, in spite of all this...in many situations, googling with


    get you your

    Quoted message said:

    info quicker than asking in a post. So, when people suggest


    it, they are

    Quoted message said:

    trying to be helpful.

    Thanks, Rog ... I *was* trying to be helpful, albeit in a funny
    way. I was perceived as being neither, and for that, I've already
    apologized. Glad to know some people get where I'm coming from.

    ^5!

    -Brendon

  19. Brendon M. Troy said:

    "Maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    A wonderful person on this NG sent me in the right direction to


    bring

    Quoted message said:

    my search to a fruitful end. He sent me to the Amazon book


    site

    Quoted message said:


    I guess googling is not the way to go at all times.

    I hate to appear to be flaming you here, but I'm afraid you're
    operating under a lot of misconceptions that are keeping you from
    living a much easier and more efficient life - namely, that
    google is not always the answer - while technically true, the
    instances of google not being the answer are so few and far
    between, they're almost religious events ;-) To wit, had you
    googled "white tiger" "chinese story", "White Tiger, Blue
    Serpent" by Grace Tseng - the book to which I assume you are
    referring - would've been the *first* result. I'm assuming that's
    how this wonderful person got his/her knowledge. I say this again
    not to flame you, but to hopefully lead you down a wonderful path
    in which you find information quickly, efficiently, and (most
    importantly) independently for yourself. It'll be great, I
    promise!

    -Brendon

    Plonk is a Usenet slang term for adding a particular person to one's
    kill file. It can be used as a verb to describe the action, or appended
    to the end of one's Usenet post to publicly demonstrate that you have
    added a person to your kill file.

    Thank you for teaching me my word of the day from your previous post.
    I don't know if I will ever use it. But darn, I know what it means now.
    By this time next year I will know all those Kewl computer slang words
    and I will be right up there with all those computer savvy posters
    that toss around words that the general poluation never heard of in
    their dull offline life. Next time I am at a party I will toss some
    usenet words out and discover who is a computer geek spending days
    discussing "whatever" online. I know this is a happy face. :-)
    I know this is a sad face :-( and I know this is a wind ;-)
    Here is a wink for you Brendon. ;-) Sorry if I aggravated you. I do
    that to many people. I think I was born to say the wrong thing at the
    wrong time and in the wrong place.
    All good things
    Maggie...
    PS...I like Google...but I really prefer the library. I especially love
    to ask questions of intelligent people so they can elaborate and fill
    me with knowledge. Is that so bad? And the guy who does my nails is
    Chinese, he has done my nails for 15 years and he teaches me alot about
    Chinese culture. Thursday is my appointment. I will ask him about the
    book and the story. Just to see what he thinks of it.

  20. Brendon M. Troy said:
    Quoted message said:

    You can fake alot on the internet as far as knowledge. Its in
    the real world without google in front of you, where you show


    your real

    Quoted message said:

    smarts.

    This is true. I don't see how it relates to me posting a joke
    link to you, but it's true. Good one, Maggie! :~) LOL

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for pissing me off. I was having a good day.

    I'm truly sorry for pissing you off, and that's where my fault is
    (and why I've wasted time replying). *I'm sorry, Maggie.* What
    was meant as a joke was obviously not interpreted that way, and
    I'm sorry for that.

    -Brendon

    Brendon, we may all have inside ourselves a 'parent', a 'child' and an
    'adult', and at different times we decide to express, or need to
    express one or the other. Whether you call those 'roles', or
    'aspects', or 'masques', is up to your interpretation.

    jj

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