Bad back - what to do now?

"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

Forgive me for asking, but what sort of doctor is this? The reason that I ask is that I can say from
personal experience that one will get all sorts of diagnoses and recommendations from doctors -
often quite contradictory! Unless your doctor specializes in the spine, and possibly in the lumbar
region, I'd want to check with one that did. Again, I say this from experience, since I too have
several degenerated and herniated discs. Some doctors want you to have immediate surgery, some want
you to have little exercise (it sounds like yours fits here!), and others will be quite proactive in
treatment, with the goal of letting you have normal activity levels. With a good strengthening
program, oftimes one can continue to do almost everything. Of course, it depends entirely on the
injury, but my point is that most doctors simply aren't up on the latest info. If you trust your
doctor, or if he's a specialist in the area, then go with it. Otherwise, get a second opinion from a
specialist. (In my case, instead of being inactive with possible surgery, I have had strengthening
and a small amount of NAISD's daily, and I have been 95% pain free since! It took several doctors to
get to that point, again, which is why I'd say it might be worth it to check!) One last thing -
inserts and running shoes picked out for you by the staff of a running-specific store also goes a
long way to control pain and other problems...

Chris Mumford said:

I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of multi-sport events that don't
include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored doing the same old
thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most of the duathlons I've
seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

I lift weights as my main form of exercise and love it. I continue to run, bike, and swim, as well
as study a martial art, but since I discovered lifting, my back has been much happier and I run,
swim, and bike less. Lifting that will help, not hurt, your back is all about proper technique,
make no mistake about that. It is not without risk, it can be brutally hard, but it offers real
rewards including but not limited to a healthier back in the rest of your life. I was bedridden
with a laterally herniated L4-L5 - 3 weeks of 24/7 Percoset, several months of getting out of bed
only to go to the bathroom and briefly to eat, and over a year until I could walk without a limp. I
now deadlift over 300 lbs. at a bodyweight of 153, bodyfat of 13%, and feel pretty damned good most
of the time.

I have a semi-commercial web site devoted to introducing people to kettlebells, which are what I use
for the bulk of my training. Most of what I've learned comes from Pavel Tsatsouline, and there are
links on my web site to that of Pavel's publisher. Disclaimer: I make a commission from purchases
made from Pavel's publisher that were initiated through links on my web site but I make nothing and
receive no reward for web hits, so browse to your heart's content. My site is below, and I'm happy
to answer questions here or via email. I put the site together because I got tired of answering the
same questions over and over, and I'm delighted to be making a little money for my efforts.

Steve Freides - D.Ma., RKC, NSCA-CPT, YMCA lifeguard instructor and swim teacher, and man about
town. kbnj.comkbnj.comOpen ↗

It's a tough call, but I wouldn't give up hope yet. Topdogs advice is top-notch. Try to see someone
who specialises in this type of injury.

My wife injured her back several years ago at work. She has undergone all the standard treatments.
Physio, Chiropractor, Acupuncture, she now does yoga, and finds some of the poses quite helpful. She
also got the name of a Physiotherapist who specialised in backs. Much to her surprise, she found
that most of the physiotherapy she had been taking up to then was the exact opposite of the type of
movements she should have been doing.

In a nutshell, movements and stretches that elongated muscles and attachments in the area such as
forward bends etc, stretched the discs further apart, and aggravated the injury. Hyper extension
movements such as lying on the floor on your stomach, and raising your upper body toward the ceiling
helped compress the injured area, an help it return to its natural state.

I am not making a diagnosis here, just pointing out as Topdog noted, see someone that knows what
they are talking about. And not everyone who claims to know what they are talking about, does.

Jim

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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of

multi-sport

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events that don't include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored
doing the same old thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most of
the duathlons

I've

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seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

I came up with a herniation at the L5-S1 which causes a sciatic pain problem. Turns out that I have
had this off and on for years only this year an MRI told me what it is.

I have received 2 epidural steroid injections to reduce swelling and am undergoing physical therapy,
ultrasound, electro-stim, massage, and a series of exercises called the McKenzie protocol which, I
am told, should cause the herniation to recede back where it belongs and leave me in good shape.

So far I am about 90% pain free and improving. I also ordered a new carbon frame to ease the stress
and give me more comfort on the bike. My wife bought it for me, kinda like giving me a hug, only
more expensive.

I have just started running again. 30 minutes 3 times a week. So far I feel good.

I will go to faith healers, witch doctors and everything else before I consider the S-word.

Ray

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"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of

multi-sport

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events that don't include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored
doing the same old thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most of
the duathlons

I've

Quoted message said:

seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

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I will go to faith healers, witch doctors and everything else before I consider the S-word.

Ray

My sister-in-law had an injury similar to mine. She saw one of the neurosurgeons in the area - he
treats the WORLD CHAMPS! San Antonio Spurs (Yes, I AM from SA!) - and he operated immediately. 4
fused vertebrae, 3 years, and a great deal less mobility later, she still has a lot of problems. Her
mistake was seeing a surgeon rather than someone who specializes in spinal rehabilitation and pain
management. Surgeons, not surprisingly, tend to recommend surgery, while rehab doctors try
everything to find other methods to deal with the injury. When you start to develop serious
numbness, however, that's when the nature of the beast changes. The good news is that the surgical
techniques are changing quite rapidly, especially in the lumbar area. It's getting less and less
invasive - at some point, it may be pretty simple and normal. But, for the most of us, it's a matter
of dealing with pain primarily, and there's so many options out there before anyone wants to use the
s-word, agreed!

Ray Plotecia said:

I came up with a herniation at the L5-S1 which causes a sciatic pain problem. Turns out that I
have had this off and on for years only this year an MRI told me what it is.

I have received 2 epidural steroid injections to reduce swelling and am undergoing physical
therapy, ultrasound, electro-stim, massage, and a series of exercises called the McKenzie
protocol which, I am told, should cause the herniation to recede back where it belongs and leave
me in good shape.

I hurt my back about 6 years ago and continue to do the McKenzie exercises daily, usually several
times a day. I had a single steroid shot as well. Anyone in the metro NYC area should consider Dr.
Dante Implicito - he's the guy I used and I think he's fantastic. Among other things, he's
certified to administer his own shots and he's got his own technique of doing it, with an x-ray
technician giving him regular pictures during the procedure, to ensure the medicine goes right
where it's needed.

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So far I am about 90% pain free and improving. I also ordered a new carbon frame to ease the
stress and give me more comfort on the bike. My wife bought it for me, kinda like giving me a hug,
only more expensive.

I have just started running again. 30 minutes 3 times a week. So far I feel good.

I will go to faith healers, witch doctors and everything else before I consider the S-word.

Ray

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"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of

multi-sport

Quoted message said:

events that don't include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored
doing the same old thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most
of the duathlons

I've

Quoted message said:

seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

Find another doctor. I have an L5-S1 herniated disk and I find that running actually helps. When
sitting at my desk all day has my back irritated and nice run will work the kinks out.

Find a good neurosurgeon. Mine said I sould not let the disk problem lower the quality of my life
and should go about business as usual (being careful how I lift things of course). I agree 100%,
when/if I make it worse, then I will let him cut me and fix it and go back to running.

The most important thing is to stay away from orthopods. Every single one I have seen are absolutly
clueless when it comes to DDD....

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I will go to faith healers, witch doctors and everything else before I consider the S-word.

Ray

Her mistake was seeing a surgeon rather than someone who specializes in spinal rehabilitation and
pain management. Surgeons, not surprisingly, tend to recommend surgery, while rehab doctors try
everything to find other methods to deal with the injury.

She did not see a good surgeon. I have seen 2 good surgeons for my L5-S1. (Had to find another one
when I moved.) In my case when my disk flares up I have about 3 weeks of severe pain followed by a
pretty quick recovery with the aid of lumbar traction and epidural cortozone. Neither surgeon wants
to cut me open at this point. Both hold it out as a posibility if things get worse, and as I
understand it there are some cases surgury is not only recomended but sort of on an emergency basis,
i.e. to avoid/arrest perminant damage to other parts of the body.

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When you start to develop serious numbness, however, that's when the nature of the beast changes.

Actually they seem to be more interested in how well you can urinate. I get the feeling if they ever
ask and the answer is "I can't go" I'll be on a table before I finish the sentence.

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Ray Plotecia wrote: I hurt my back about 6 years ago and continue to do the McKenzie exercises
daily, usually several times a day.

Could someone define for me the McKenzie exercises? It's quite probable that they are the same
exercises prescribed by my PT but I was just unaware they have a name?

McKenzie exercises

These exercises are named after a physical therapist in New Zealand who noted that extending the
spine could reduce pain generated from the disc space. Theoretically, extension may also help reduce
a herniated disc and reduce pressure on a nerve root. For patients who are suffering from leg pain
due to a disc herniation (a radiculopathy), extending the spine may help reduce the leg pain by
"centralizing" the pain (moving the pain from the leg to the back). For most patients, back pain is
usually more tolerable than leg pain, and if a patient is able to centralize the pain, they may be
able to continue with conservative treatment and avoid a surgical discectomy.

When the pain is acute, the exercises should be done frequently (every one to two hours). Patients
should also try to avoid flexing the spine (bending forward).

McKenzie exercises may also be helpful for those individuals who have back pain due to degenerative
disc disease. While sitting or flexing forward can accentuate low back pain for patients with
degenerative disc disease, extending the spine can serve to relieve the pressure on the disc. Note
that the opposite is true in elderly patients who have facet osteoarthritis and/or lumbar stenosis
(extending the spine jams the facet joints on the back and increases pressure across the joints, so
these patients will typically feel better sitting, and have more pain with extension).

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Ray Plotecia wrote: I hurt my back about 6 years ago and continue to do the McKenzie exercises
daily, usually several times a day.

Could someone define for me the McKenzie exercises? It's quite probable that they are the same
exercises prescribed by my PT but I was just

unaware

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they have a name?

"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of

multi-sport

Quoted message said:

events that don't include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored
doing the same old thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most of
the duathlons

I've

Quoted message said:

seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

I had a herniated L5-S1 with sciatica several years ago (as determined by an MRI). Started with
Percoset to take the edge off the sciatica. Then saw a gentle chiropractor for 3-4 months for
manipulation, back rolling machine, and easy exercises. The good news I believe is that herniated
disks can recover without surgery if taken care of, and do everything possible to avoid progressing
to ruptured disks (defintely requires surgey, but never get fused - I have a friend with a success
story after 5 ruptured disks and bent over for 7 years, saw the sports surgeon for the Seattle
Seahawks).

I discovered that *for me* (I am no doctor and I would consult with yours before trying it on you)
one thing that helped was to occassionally hang by my arms from a chin-up bar, rafter, etc. Seemed
to help relieve some of the pressure and maybe helped suck the disk lfuid back where it belongs.

I also found that as I strengthened my abdomen and lower back I avoided re-injurying it.

Overall I think see a chiro, back specialist, etc. is a great start. If the pain is too much then an
MD that can prescribe real pain meds like Percoset is handy. The specialist should be able to help
you get started on a recovery/prevention exercise program. Swimming and weights seem like a couple
of ideal training sports for long-term enjoyment and better health. Reducing weight will reduce the
strain the overweight belly pouts on the lower back (benn there, done that).

Now, several years later my back is A-OK, haven't had a back problem for the last 5 years, and I
completed my first marathon in great shape last month.

There is hope for a full recovery, but take it easy, be smart and work towards the long-term goals
of full recovery and health. Don't worsen your situation by trying to force undue stress on your
back until you know what cause so many herniated disks and correct that situation, loose some
weight, strengthen the abs and back, and start with some low impact sports until you are confident
of the muscles supporting the back to buffer the strain on the discs. Better safe than sorry; slow
and sure. Good luck with your recovery!

Jeff

Hi,

You can find more info, and a list of Mckenzie certified practitioners, at www.mckenziemdt.org.
There's also a book written by Robin Mckenzie called ''treat your own back"

Mike B.

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Ray Plotecia wrote: I hurt my back about 6 years ago and continue to do the McKenzie exercises
daily, usually several times a day.

Could someone define for me the McKenzie exercises? It's quite probable that they are the same
exercises prescribed by my PT but I was just unaware they have a name?

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"Treat your own Back" is the book that I have. It should be the standard "user manual" for anyone
who owns a back. It's great.

Ray

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Hi,

You can find more info, and a list of Mckenzie certified practitioners, at www.mckenziemdt.org.
There's also a book written by Robin Mckenzie called ''treat your own back"

Mike B.

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Ray Plotecia wrote: I hurt my back about 6 years ago and continue to do the McKenzie exercises
daily, usually several times a day.

Could someone define for me the McKenzie exercises? It's quite

probable

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that they are the same exercises prescribed by my PT but I was just

unaware

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they have a name?

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I herniated the same disk, L5-S1 in 1996. It healed on it's own with the help of anti-inflamatories
and rest. It flares up a bit from time to time, and I have found that the absolute best prevention
is keeping the weight off and exercising, including abdominal workouts a few times per week.

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"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of

multi-sport

Quoted message said:

events that don't include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored
doing the same old thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most
of the duathlons

I've

Quoted message said:

seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

I had a herniated L5-S1 with sciatica several years ago (as determined by an MRI). Started with
Percoset to take the edge off the sciatica. Then

saw

Quoted message said:

a gentle chiropractor for 3-4 months for manipulation, back rolling

machine,

Quoted message said:

and easy exercises. The good news I believe is that herniated disks can recover without surgery if
taken care of, and do everything possible to avoid progressing to ruptured disks (defintely
requires surgey, but never get fused - I have a friend with a success story after 5 ruptured disks

and

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bent over for 7 years, saw the sports surgeon for the Seattle Seahawks).

I discovered that *for me* (I am no doctor and I would consult with yours before trying it on you)
one thing that helped was to occassionally hang

by

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my arms from a chin-up bar, rafter, etc. Seemed to help relieve some of

the

Quoted message said:

pressure and maybe helped suck the disk lfuid back where it belongs.

I also found that as I strengthened my abdomen and lower back I avoided re-injurying it.

Overall I think see a chiro, back specialist, etc. is a great start. If

the

Quoted message said:

pain is too much then an MD that can prescribe real pain meds like

Percoset

Quoted message said:

is handy. The specialist should be able to help you get started on a recovery/prevention exercise
program. Swimming and weights seem like a couple of ideal training sports for long-term enjoyment
and better health. Reducing weight will reduce the strain the overweight belly pouts on the lower
back (benn there, done that).

Now, several years later my back is A-OK, haven't had a back problem for

the

Quoted message said:

last 5 years, and I completed my first marathon in great shape last month.

There is hope for a full recovery, but take it easy, be smart and work towards the long-term goals
of full recovery and health. Don't worsen

your

Quoted message said:

situation by trying to force undue stress on your back until you know what cause so many herniated
disks and correct that situation, loose some

weight,

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strengthen the abs and back, and start with some low impact sports until

you

Quoted message said:

are confident of the muscles supporting the back to buffer the strain on

the

Quoted message said:

discs. Better safe than sorry; slow and sure. Good luck with your recovery!

Jeff

You are so right. My PT has told me that the abdominal workouts are something I have to do for the
rest of my life. Small price to pay.

Ray

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I herniated the same disk, L5-S1 in 1996. It healed on it's own with the help of
anti-inflamatories and rest. It flares up a bit from time to

time,

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and I have found that the absolute best prevention is keeping the weight

off

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and exercising, including abdominal workouts a few times per week.

"Jeff Bryant" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back

went

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out, and it turns out that I have two degenerated disks - one of them

is

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herniated. My doctor says, "running is out". Since then I've reduced

my

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workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of

multi-sport

Quoted message said:

events that don't include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get
bored doing the same old thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a
swimmer). Most of the

duathlons

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've

Quoted message said:

seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

I had a herniated L5-S1 with sciatica several years ago (as determined

by

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

an MRI). Started with Percoset to take the edge off the sciatica. Then

saw

Quoted message said:

a gentle chiropractor for 3-4 months for manipulation, back rolling

machine,

Quoted message said:

and easy exercises. The good news I believe is that herniated disks can recover without surgery
if taken care of, and do everything possible to avoid progressing to ruptured disks (defintely
requires surgey, but

never

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

get fused - I have a friend with a success story after 5 ruptured disks

and

Quoted message said:

bent over for 7 years, saw the sports surgeon for the Seattle Seahawks).

I discovered that *for me* (I am no doctor and I would consult with

yours

Quoted message said:

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before trying it on you) one thing that helped was to occassionally hang

by

Quoted message said:

my arms from a chin-up bar, rafter, etc. Seemed to help relieve some of

the

Quoted message said:

pressure and maybe helped suck the disk lfuid back where it belongs.

I also found that as I strengthened my abdomen and lower back I avoided re-injurying it.

Overall I think see a chiro, back specialist, etc. is a great start. If

the

Quoted message said:

pain is too much then an MD that can prescribe real pain meds like

Percoset

Quoted message said:

is handy. The specialist should be able to help you get started on a recovery/prevention
exercise program. Swimming and weights seem like a couple of ideal training sports for long-term
enjoyment and better

health.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Reducing weight will reduce the strain the overweight belly pouts on the lower back (benn there,
done that).

Now, several years later my back is A-OK, haven't had a back problem for

the

Quoted message said:

last 5 years, and I completed my first marathon in great shape last

month.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

There is hope for a full recovery, but take it easy, be smart and work towards the long-term
goals of full recovery and health. Don't worsen

your

Quoted message said:

situation by trying to force undue stress on your back until you know

what

Quoted message said:

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cause so many herniated disks and correct that situation, loose some

weight,

Quoted message said:

strengthen the abs and back, and start with some low impact sports until

you

Quoted message said:

are confident of the muscles supporting the back to buffer the strain on

the

Quoted message said:

discs. Better safe than sorry; slow and sure. Good luck with your recovery!

Jeff

"Chris Mumford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of multi-sport events that don't
include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored doing the same old
thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most of the duathlons I've
seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

Get a second opinion. I have had 2 discectomies and still do triathlon. I do limit run
training, however.

The neurosurgeon who did my first operation (old school) told me that I needn't limit my activity
after recovery from surgery and I continued to do sprint distance races without problems.

I had my sights set on my first Olympic distance when I ruptured my disc again lifting carpet. The
NS who did my second operation (first one retired) told me that I needed to take 8 weeks off of work
(desk job) and give up running AND cycling permanently. I thought that this was way too conservative
and decided to take my first doctor's advice. Although I don't recommend this, I did my first
Olympic distance race 12 weeks after my second operation.

Running can be somewhat uncomfortable for me. As a result, I do less frequent run training than I
used to and have come to accept that my run times will not likely improve. However, the extra
attention to swim and bike times has paid off.

I would tend to believe that the extra 15 lbs lbs more of a risk to your back and your overall
health than continuing to train for triathlon with some modifications to your regimen.

Want great info on bad backs?

Try www.microlaserdiscectomy.com

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I've always loved doing triathlons, but about two years ago my back went out, and it turns out
that I have two degenerated disks - one of them is herniated. My doctor says, "running is out".
Since then I've reduced my workouts and subsequently put on 15 pounds!

I've been looking for an alternative to triathlons in search of multi-sport events that don't
include running. Heck they don't even have to be multi-sport. I just get bored doing the same old
thing which is why I haven't become a biker (never much of a swimmer). Most of the duathlons I've
seen are run+bike. Does anybody have any suggestions?

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Hi: I have recommended the "UltraBack Back videotape program for 8 years and have had great results.
www.fitcentric.com to purchase online. Ken Burres MD spine surgeon

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Hi,

You can find more info, and a list of Mckenzie certified practitioners, at www.mckenziemdt.org.
There's also a book written by Robin Mckenzie called ''treat your own back"

Mike B.

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Could someone define for me the McKenzie exercises? It's quite

probable

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that they are the same exercises prescribed by my PT but I was just

unaware

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they have a name?

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