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  1. Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.

    Jill
    --
    I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

  2. jmcquown said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.
    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder
    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter
    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.

    Ya know, I just don't like salt pork, I like a tiny bit of smoky sweet flavor.
    I'd use good thick bacon, about 6-8 slices oughta do it and cooked gently so the
    drippings don't get too brown. I like the Oscar Meyer or Ranchsomethingorother.
    Edrena

  3. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New
    England sort of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of
    already grilled shark steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so
    it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some
    searching and found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd
    throw some dill weed in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt
    pork, onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling
    water, and cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already
    cooked so I'd add it at the last] and simmer until potatoes are
    soft. Add milk, cream, salt, pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt
    butter and add slowly until chowder starts to thicken. Cook about 5
    minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main dish.

    Jill

    Taragon might be nice. If you mash some of the potatoes before using them
    it would help to thicken it more or add some instant tater flakes. Yeah I
    saw the cream. Perhaps some carrot for colour? Maybe some celery, or
    chopped celery leaves.

    --
    No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
    Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl
    Continuing to be Manitoban

  4. jmcquown said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.

    Jill

    Too bad you don't have any shrimp heads for making a stock instead of
    using water.

    I would add some thyme, but maybe dill will work too.

    Bob

  5. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England
    sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching
    and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add
    it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a
    main
    dish.

    Dried thyme, added near the end in small amounts. Leave enough time to see
    how it affects the soup.

  6. "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jmcquown said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England
    sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching
    and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill
    weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt
    pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add
    it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until
    chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a
    main
    dish.

    Jill

    Too bad you don't have any shrimp heads for making a stock instead of
    using water.

    I would add some thyme, but maybe dill will work too.

    She could get a whole fish, have the market fillet it, and give her the
    skeleton to use for the base. Simmer with a whole onion and a stalk of
    celery. Buy cheesecloth while at the store and strain the broth thoroughly.
    Freezes well if there's some left over.

  7. On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:58:17 -0600, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.


    Sounds basically OK. I wouldn't salt with a measuring spoon,
    especially since your fish is different and the recipe doesn't say
    salted or unsalted butter. Season to taste as you go.

    Also, you can vary by using smoked bacon, guanciale, or pancetta
    instead of the salt pork.

    And/or by using creme fraiche instead of cream at the end.

    Using fish stock instead of water, if you have some.

    Zap a few littlenecks and put their broth in, before you adjust the
    salt. You might want to chop the clams and add them, or not. You can
    decide that later.

    You could vary it by using firm yellow fleshed potatoes diced and
    browned first, instead of soft potatoes that disintegrate and thicken
    the broth. Or you could do half and half of firm and soft potatoes.

    To me, a little heat wouldn't hurt. A little hot sauce, or simmer a
    split Serrano or Jalapeno in the pot, taking it out when you just
    begin to taste the heat.

    So, you can make chowder every couple of weeks if you want to, and
    never repeat yourself.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

  8. On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:58:17 -0600, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.


    Sounds basically OK. I wouldn't salt with a measuring spoon,
    especially since your fish is different and the recipe doesn't say
    salted or unsalted butter. Season to taste as you go.

    Also, you can vary by using smoked bacon, guanciale, or pancetta
    instead of the salt pork.

    And/or by using creme fraiche instead of cream at the end.

    Using fish stock instead of water, if you have some.

    Zap a few littlenecks and put their broth in, before you adjust the
    salt. You might want to chop the clams and add them, or not. You can
    decide that later.

    You could vary it by using firm yellow fleshed potatoes diced and
    browned first, instead of soft potatoes that disintegrate and thicken
    the broth. Or you could do half and half of firm and soft potatoes.

    To me, a little heat wouldn't hurt. A little hot sauce, or simmer a
    split Serrano or Jalapeno in the pot, taking it out when you just
    begin to taste the heat.

    So, you can make chowder every couple of weeks if you want to, and
    never repeat yourself.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

  9. On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:58:17 -0600, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.


    Sounds basically OK. I wouldn't salt with a measuring spoon,
    especially since your fish is different and the recipe doesn't say
    salted or unsalted butter. Season to taste as you go.

    Also, you can vary by using smoked bacon, guanciale, or pancetta
    instead of the salt pork.

    And/or by using creme fraiche instead of cream at the end.

    Using fish stock instead of water, if you have some.

    Zap a few littlenecks and put their broth in, before you adjust the
    salt. You might want to chop the clams and add them, or not. You can
    decide that later.

    You could vary it by using firm yellow fleshed potatoes diced and
    browned first, instead of soft potatoes that disintegrate and thicken
    the broth. Or you could do half and half of firm and soft potatoes.

    To me, a little heat wouldn't hurt. A little hot sauce, or simmer a
    split Serrano or Jalapeno in the pot, taking it out when you just
    begin to taste the heat.

    So, you can make chowder every couple of weeks if you want to, and
    never repeat yourself.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

  10. Doug Kanter said:

    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Too bad you don't have any shrimp heads for making a stock instead


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    using water.

    I would add some thyme, but maybe dill will work too.

    She could get a whole fish, have the market fillet it, and give her


    the

    Quoted message said:

    skeleton to use for the base. Simmer with a whole onion and a stalk


    of

    Quoted message said:

    celery. Buy cheesecloth while at the store and strain the broth


    thoroughly.

    Quoted message said:

    Freezes well if there's some left over.

    Or use bottled clam juice (a cupboard staple, here) instead of the
    water.

    In the original recipe, I'd toss in a big splash of white wine (dry
    vermouth, another cupboard staple) and let it boil for a minute before
    adding the water. One small rosemary sprig, removed before you add the
    cream, is another herb option.

    -aem

  11. Doug Kanter said:

    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Too bad you don't have any shrimp heads for making a stock instead


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    using water.

    I would add some thyme, but maybe dill will work too.

    She could get a whole fish, have the market fillet it, and give her


    the

    Quoted message said:

    skeleton to use for the base. Simmer with a whole onion and a stalk


    of

    Quoted message said:

    celery. Buy cheesecloth while at the store and strain the broth


    thoroughly.

    Quoted message said:

    Freezes well if there's some left over.

    Or use bottled clam juice (a cupboard staple, here) instead of the
    water.

    In the original recipe, I'd toss in a big splash of white wine (dry
    vermouth, another cupboard staple) and let it boil for a minute before
    adding the water. One small rosemary sprig, removed before you add the
    cream, is another herb option.

    -aem

  12. Doug Kanter said:

    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Too bad you don't have any shrimp heads for making a stock instead


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    using water.

    I would add some thyme, but maybe dill will work too.

    She could get a whole fish, have the market fillet it, and give her


    the

    Quoted message said:

    skeleton to use for the base. Simmer with a whole onion and a stalk


    of

    Quoted message said:

    celery. Buy cheesecloth while at the store and strain the broth


    thoroughly.

    Quoted message said:

    Freezes well if there's some left over.

    Or use bottled clam juice (a cupboard staple, here) instead of the
    water.

    In the original recipe, I'd toss in a big splash of white wine (dry
    vermouth, another cupboard staple) and let it boil for a minute before
    adding the water. One small rosemary sprig, removed before you add the
    cream, is another herb option.

    -aem

  13. Rodney Myrvaagnes said:

    On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:58:17 -0600, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New
    England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled
    shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some
    searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some
    dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt
    pork,


    Sounds basically OK. I wouldn't salt with a measuring spoon,
    especially since your fish is different and the recipe doesn't say
    salted or unsalted butter. Season to taste as you go.


    I usually do 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    Also, you can vary by using smoked bacon, guanciale, or pancetta
    instead of the salt pork.


    True, but I'm trying to work with what I have.

    Quoted message said:

    And/or by using creme fraiche instead of cream at the end.

    Using fish stock instead of water, if you have some.

    Zap a few littlenecks and put their broth in, before you adjust the
    salt. You might want to chop the clams and add them, or not. You can
    decide that later.


    Good suggestion. I was also thinking of finding a bottle of clam juice if I
    don't add clams.

    Quoted message said:

    You could vary it by using firm yellow fleshed potatoes diced and
    browned first, instead of soft potatoes that disintegrate and thicken
    the broth. Or you could do half and half of firm and soft potatoes.


    I think I'll find some Yukon Gold.

    Quoted message said:

    To me, a little heat wouldn't hurt. A little hot sauce, or simmer a
    split Serrano or Jalapeno in the pot, taking it out when you just
    begin to taste the heat.


    Yep, sounds like a winner. I'll also take the other suggestions about using
    thyme rather than dill weed.

    Jill

    Quoted message said:

    So, you can make chowder every couple of weeks if you want to, and
    never repeat yourself.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the
    ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

  14. Rodney Myrvaagnes said:

    On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:58:17 -0600, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New
    England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled
    shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some
    searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some
    dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt
    pork,


    Sounds basically OK. I wouldn't salt with a measuring spoon,
    especially since your fish is different and the recipe doesn't say
    salted or unsalted butter. Season to taste as you go.


    I usually do 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    Also, you can vary by using smoked bacon, guanciale, or pancetta
    instead of the salt pork.


    True, but I'm trying to work with what I have.

    Quoted message said:

    And/or by using creme fraiche instead of cream at the end.

    Using fish stock instead of water, if you have some.

    Zap a few littlenecks and put their broth in, before you adjust the
    salt. You might want to chop the clams and add them, or not. You can
    decide that later.


    Good suggestion. I was also thinking of finding a bottle of clam juice if I
    don't add clams.

    Quoted message said:

    You could vary it by using firm yellow fleshed potatoes diced and
    browned first, instead of soft potatoes that disintegrate and thicken
    the broth. Or you could do half and half of firm and soft potatoes.


    I think I'll find some Yukon Gold.

    Quoted message said:

    To me, a little heat wouldn't hurt. A little hot sauce, or simmer a
    split Serrano or Jalapeno in the pot, taking it out when you just
    begin to taste the heat.


    Yep, sounds like a winner. I'll also take the other suggestions about using
    thyme rather than dill weed.

    Jill

    Quoted message said:

    So, you can make chowder every couple of weeks if you want to, and
    never repeat yourself.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the
    ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

  15. Rodney Myrvaagnes said:

    On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:58:17 -0600, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New
    England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled
    shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some
    searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some
    dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt
    pork,


    Sounds basically OK. I wouldn't salt with a measuring spoon,
    especially since your fish is different and the recipe doesn't say
    salted or unsalted butter. Season to taste as you go.


    I usually do 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    Also, you can vary by using smoked bacon, guanciale, or pancetta
    instead of the salt pork.


    True, but I'm trying to work with what I have.

    Quoted message said:

    And/or by using creme fraiche instead of cream at the end.

    Using fish stock instead of water, if you have some.

    Zap a few littlenecks and put their broth in, before you adjust the
    salt. You might want to chop the clams and add them, or not. You can
    decide that later.


    Good suggestion. I was also thinking of finding a bottle of clam juice if I
    don't add clams.

    Quoted message said:

    You could vary it by using firm yellow fleshed potatoes diced and
    browned first, instead of soft potatoes that disintegrate and thicken
    the broth. Or you could do half and half of firm and soft potatoes.


    I think I'll find some Yukon Gold.

    Quoted message said:

    To me, a little heat wouldn't hurt. A little hot sauce, or simmer a
    split Serrano or Jalapeno in the pot, taking it out when you just
    begin to taste the heat.


    Yep, sounds like a winner. I'll also take the other suggestions about using
    thyme rather than dill weed.

    Jill

    Quoted message said:

    So, you can make chowder every couple of weeks if you want to, and
    never repeat yourself.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the
    ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

  16. jmcquown said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.

    Jill


    You will need some fish/seafood stock since your fish is already cooked.

    The herb suggestions of many posters, dill, thyme, tarragon - completely
    inauthentic. If you like it, fine, but don't kid yourself that it's
    what chowder should taste like.

    And mashing some of the spuds - a terrible idea. The broth in chowder
    isn't supposed to be thick.

    --

    ===============================================================
    Regards

    Louis Cohen

    "Yes, yes, I will desalinate you, you grande morue!"

    Émile Zola, Assommoir 1877

  17. jmcquown said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.

    Jill


    You will need some fish/seafood stock since your fish is already cooked.

    The herb suggestions of many posters, dill, thyme, tarragon - completely
    inauthentic. If you like it, fine, but don't kid yourself that it's
    what chowder should taste like.

    And mashing some of the spuds - a terrible idea. The broth in chowder
    isn't supposed to be thick.

    --

    ===============================================================
    Regards

    Louis Cohen

    "Yes, yes, I will desalinate you, you grande morue!"

    Émile Zola, Assommoir 1877

  18. jmcquown said:

    Not looking for cioppino; I'm tomatoed out. Looking for a New England sort
    of fish chowder. The fish will be the 1/2 lb. of already grilled shark
    steak I have in my freezer; nice firm fish so it should hold up well.

    This is not for tonight so no rush in replies. I've done some searching and
    found this which looks fairly promising. I think I'd throw some dill weed
    in it. Whatcha think?

    Fish Chowder

    1/2 lb. salt pork, chopped and browned (save drippings)
    3 onions, diced
    4 large potatoes, cut in 1/2 inch cubes
    4 lb. haddock, cut in small pieces
    6 c. boiling water
    1 c. milk
    1 c. cream
    1/2 tsp. pepper
    1 tsp. parsley
    1 tsp. salt
    1/2 lb. butter

    Remove salt pork and brown onions in drippings. Add the chopped salt pork,
    onions, and drippings to a deep kettle; add potatoes, boiling water, and
    cook for 5 minutes. Add fish [NOTE: my fish is already cooked so I'd add it
    at the last] and simmer until potatoes are soft. Add milk, cream, salt,
    pepper, [dill weed?] and parsley. Melt butter and add slowly until chowder
    starts to thicken. Cook about 5 minutes longer and serve. Serves 8 as a main
    dish.

    Jill


    You will need some fish/seafood stock since your fish is already cooked.

    The herb suggestions of many posters, dill, thyme, tarragon - completely
    inauthentic. If you like it, fine, but don't kid yourself that it's
    what chowder should taste like.

    And mashing some of the spuds - a terrible idea. The broth in chowder
    isn't supposed to be thick.

    --

    ===============================================================
    Regards

    Louis Cohen

    "Yes, yes, I will desalinate you, you grande morue!"

    Émile Zola, Assommoir 1877

  19. Louis Cohen said:

    You will need some fish/seafood stock since your fish is already cooked.

    The herb suggestions of many posters, dill, thyme, tarragon - completely
    inauthentic. If you like it, fine, but don't kid yourself that it's
    what chowder should taste like.

    And mashing some of the spuds - a terrible idea. The broth in chowder
    isn't supposed to be thick.

    Since nobody else knows anything, would you care to enlighten us about
    the correct choice of herbs?

    regards,
    Bob

  20. Louis Cohen said:

    You will need some fish/seafood stock since your fish is already cooked.

    The herb suggestions of many posters, dill, thyme, tarragon - completely
    inauthentic. If you like it, fine, but don't kid yourself that it's
    what chowder should taste like.

    And mashing some of the spuds - a terrible idea. The broth in chowder
    isn't supposed to be thick.

    Since nobody else knows anything, would you care to enlighten us about
    the correct choice of herbs?

    regards,
    Bob

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