Best ways to lighten my Enduro?

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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

tap a hole in the frame and insert a air fitting. fill the frame with helium. do the same for the
tires. it's what all the pros are doing now. i'm really quite surprised you haven't heard of it yet.
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TC said:

I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money?

Depends on how it's speced now.

In general the cheapest weight saving is tires and tubes, and it's very effective because weight in
the wheels is felt the most and more the further away from the center of the wheel it is.

Replacing rubber grips with foam ones is also rather cheap.

Next is most likely seat and perhaphs seatpost, but now we are getting into the expensive stuff.

In the extreme end is replaing alu-bolts with titanium ones and the same with springs (if you
have some).

Regards

Bruno

TC said:

I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

Lose 10 lbs., and lay off the beer for awhile.

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go for a dump before your ride

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LMAO thats my favorite so far...

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go for a dump before your ride

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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
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Jimbo had this to say to Shaun a couple of days ago:

"I am going to give you the secret of speed... and all it takes is a drill... that's right a
drill.... Take your drill and a smallish bit and start by drilling as many holes on your bike as you
can... Now don't drill all the way through... just drill into the surface about halfway... cause
drilling through would weaken the bike too much... cover the entire frame in drill holes... Then
drill your cranks.. the handlebar, stem and saddle and lastly... don't ever let anyone know I let
you in on this secret.. Drill the rims too... By the end of your drilling session you should have a
rather large pile if metal shavings... If you weigh that you will find that you will have knocked
pounds and pounds off your bike... Jimbo...trust me...(san)"

I hope that he can forgive me for quoting him. It's still the best damnedest advice that I've
seen anywhere.

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Westie

magniesium everything,

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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
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J'm Sm'th said:

TC said:

I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

Lose 10 lbs., and lay off the beer for awhile.

BLASPHEMY!

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Ooh thats so nineties!

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TC said:

I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

Lose 10 lbs., and lay off the beer for awhile.

Well I've had a bike for 3 months and lost 12lbs so doing quite well there! TC

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Depends on how it's speced now.

In general the cheapest weight saving is tires and tubes, and it's very effective because weight
in the wheels is felt the most and more the further away from the center of the wheel it is.

Replacing rubber grips with foam ones is also rather cheap.

Next is most likely seat and perhaphs seatpost, but now we are getting into the expensive stuff.

In the extreme end is replaing alu-bolts with titanium ones and the same with springs (if you
have some).

Regards

Bruno

I've ordered a Thomson seat post as I needed a longer one anyway and that seemed to be a popular
choice. I imagine rims can differ in weight a fair amount but not sure what the Mavic x223 ones it
has weigh. I imagine there's a trade off between the weight of a tyre and its resistance to
punctures - any ideas for the best options for general cross country use? TC

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Jimbo had this to say to Shaun a couple of days ago:

<snip best damnedest advice >

Actually, Jimbo was on to something, but giving it to Shaun as weight saving advice is not the
proper venue. Repackage it as aero advice. All of those "holes" become dimples for the boundary
layer effect. I mentioned this to Jimbo in the original thread, but he never replied. The revised
version would look like:

"I am going to give you the secret of speed... and all it takes is a drill... that's right a
drill.... Take your drill and a smallish bit and start by drilling as many holes on your bike as you
can... Now don't drill all the way through... just enough to dimple the surface... cause drilling
through would weaken the bike too much... cover the entire frame in dimples... Then drill your
cranks.. the handlebar, stem and saddle and lastly... don't ever let anyone know I let you in on
this secret.. Drill the rims too, ESPECIALLY the rims... You have now introduced boundary layer
effects to your bike. This will reduce aerodynamic drag, especially on those rapidly spinning rims.
This will add at least 2mph to your top end."

Now unleash this advice on the appropriate board. If you want people to buy into it, it would be
best to do it on a roadie board (e.g. rec.bicycle.racing), or better yet rec.sport.triathlon.
Triathletes never miss a techno fad. We are talking about people who spend hundreds of dollars for
aero wheels. Of all of the things I can think about adding to the drag coefficient of the bike/rider
system, the shape of the rims is insignificant. Nevertheless people claim to get one extra mph with
aero rims. I think it is time to patent boundary layer dimples on bikes. ;-)

rec.bicycles.tech might deliver the best flamewar however, especially on a day when Jobst Brandt is
present. Decisions, decisions...

-Dave

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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

I've got a way to get your bike to about 20lbs. Send me your Enduro and I'll give you my Litespeed
Tellico. I'll take the 10lbs off you hands for free, my feakin' back is killing me from this
stupid hardtail!

Shaun (DHi still not fixed) Bell

MX-Pilot said:

magniesium everything,

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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
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Milk of magnesium is the quickest.

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TC said:

I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

Lose 10 lbs., and lay off the beer for awhile.

Well I've had a bike for 3 months and lost 12lbs so doing quite well there! TC

See, there you go.

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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

As Detroit figured out years ago - it is cheaper and easier to put in a moe powerful engine than to
lighten the body. Work out some more ;-))

Steve "just another useless reply"

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Jimbo had this to say to Shaun a couple of days ago:

<snip best damnedest advice >

Actually, Jimbo was on to something, but giving it to Shaun as weight saving advice is not the
proper venue. Repackage it as aero advice. All of those "holes" become dimples for the boundary
layer effect. I mentioned this to Jimbo in the original thread, but he never replied. The revised
version would look like:

<snip>

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Now unleash this advice on the appropriate board. If you want people to buy into it, it would be
best to do it on a roadie board (e.g. rec.bicycle.racing), or better yet rec.sport.triathlon.

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-Dave

Oooooo... let me know when you do...!
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MX-Pilot said:

magniesium everything,

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I would like to lighten my Enduro Expert, what changes are likely to result in the best weight
savings for the money? Thanks, TC

Milk of magnesium is the quickest.

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I had a STIHL chainsaw a few years back. I spilled petrol while refilling it and some hot engine
part set it alight. And then the magnesium engine block caught fire. It was like a big flare.
Reduced the weight pretty good. All that was left was a pile of fine white ash, a cutterbar, chain
and a few other miscellaneous bits and pieces.
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Westie

TC said:

I've ordered a Thomson seat post as I needed a longer one anyway and that seemed to be a
popular choice.

They are very nice (and expensive):-)

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I imagine rims can differ in weight a fair amount but not sure what the Mavic x223 ones it
has weigh.

I think they are not to heavy as I recall - but I could be mistaken. Once you get to replacing them
due to damage perhaphs post about rims - I'm sure lots of input will be given. Spokes are also a
factor which many forgets.

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I imagine there's a trade off between the weight of a tyre and its resistance to punctures - any
ideas for the best options for general cross country use?

I think the trade off when it comes to punctures is mostly about snake bites (the ones were u hit a
shard edge on a rock and it totally flattens the tire and puntures the tube in two or even four
places) other than that it's more about matching tire and trail conditions.

Except for the dry times in the summer I ride some rather big knobby tires like WTB Raptor or
similar, they are heavy but give good grip in muddy conditions. And when it's get's dry, or rather
as dry as it can be there is allways mud somewhere, I go with lighter tires like IRC Mythos or
Michelin Wildgripper or something of that type. They still have plenty of knobs but are perhaphs a
little narrower, lighter and have less rolling resistance.

Kind regards

Bruno