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Luna, what a horrible ordeal! I cannot imagine how you must have felt!
Scary!

Take care of yourself, and let us know how you are doing.

luna said:

Ok,we were moving from one house to another, got phones turned off at
the old house last thursday, but never got the phone turned on at the
new house because the phone company sucks and they don't show up when
they say they will.

Then, Sunday night at the new house, while we were all asleep, around
2AM, three masked guys with shotguns kicked in the doors. They were
wearing SWAT caps and jackets with "Police" on them. They brought us
all out to the living room and made us lie down facing the floor. At
first they said they were the cops and they suspected us of terrorist
activities, then they started yelling that they wanted the drugs and the
money and the guns. They took about 300 bucks from my dad's pants
pocket, the small tv from our roommate's room, and my 6 year old iMac.

We don't know if the people who rented the house before us were dealing
drugs, or if the guys just saw us moving in and figured we were an easy
target because we weren't settled in yet, or if the movers told some
friends that we didn't have a phone line yet and my roommate had a nice
car so they figured we had money or something. Anyway, we got out of
there that night and slept at my uncle's apartment, and now we're in the
process of moving into a condo we're going to rent from some cousins.

Thankfully, none of us were hurt, but it's a pain in the ass to have to
move again. And, I really loved that house, it was a really nice place,
and I spent so much time, money and effort painting and setting
everything up, but we would never feel safe there. The condo's in a
gated community but it's pretty small and dumpy, and we're having to get
rid of a bunch of stuff, which might actually be a blessing in disguise
because we have too much [censored] anyway. My cat's adjusting suprisingly
well to being uprooted twice in a week, but I'm still a bit shaken up
and can't eat much or sleep very long at a time. I'm at my sister's
house using her computer right now, and her husband may be able to lend
me one until I can afford a new one. I'll try to check in again when I
can get a break and get back over here.

Oh, Luna, how awful! I'm so sorry this happened. I hope everything looks up
for you.

In news:[email hidden],
luna <[email hidden]> stated
| Ok,we were moving from one house to another, got phones turned off at
| the old house last thursday, but never got the phone turned on at the
| new house because the phone company sucks and they don't show up when
| they say they will.
|
| Then, Sunday night at the new house, while we were all asleep, around
| 2AM, three masked guys with shotguns kicked in the doors. They were
| wearing SWAT caps and jackets with "Police" on them. They brought us
| all out to the living room and made us lie down facing the floor. At
| first they said they were the cops and they suspected us of terrorist
| activities, then they started yelling that they wanted the drugs and
| the money and the guns. They took about 300 bucks from my dad's pants
| pocket, the small tv from our roommate's room, and my 6 year old iMac.
|
| We don't know if the people who rented the house before us were
| dealing drugs, or if the guys just saw us moving in and figured we
| were an easy target because we weren't settled in yet, or if the
| movers told some friends that we didn't have a phone line yet and my
| roommate had a nice car so they figured we had money or something.
| Anyway, we got out of there that night and slept at my uncle's
| apartment, and now we're in the process of moving into a condo we're
| going to rent from some cousins.
|
| Thankfully, none of us were hurt, but it's a pain in the ass to have
| to move again. And, I really loved that house, it was a really nice
| place, and I spent so much time, money and effort painting and setting
| everything up, but we would never feel safe there. The condo's in a
| gated community but it's pretty small and dumpy, and we're having to
| get rid of a bunch of stuff, which might actually be a blessing in
| disguise because we have too much [censored] anyway. My cat's adjusting
| suprisingly well to being uprooted twice in a week, but I'm still a
| bit shaken up and can't eat much or sleep very long at a time. I'm
| at my sister's house using her computer right now, and her husband
| may be able to lend me one until I can afford a new one. I'll try to
| check in again when I can get a break and get back over here.

Holy [censored] Luna! Damn, I'm glad you guys didn't get hurt!
Although the real cops probably won't be able to track these [censored]
unless someone squeals we can hope.

Take care,
Carmen

luna said:

Ok,we were moving from one house to another, got phones turned off
at
the old house last thursday, but never got the phone turned on at
the
new house because the phone company sucks and they don't show up
when
they say they will.

Then, Sunday night at the new house, while we were all asleep,
around
2AM, three masked guys with shotguns kicked in the doors. They were
wearing SWAT caps and jackets with "Police" on them. They brought
us
all out to the living room and made us lie down facing the floor. At

first they said they were the cops and they suspected us of
terrorist
activities, then they started yelling that they wanted the drugs and
the
money and the guns. They took about 300 bucks from my dad's pants
pocket, the small tv from our roommate's room, and my 6 year old
iMac.

We don't know if the people who rented the house before us were
dealing
drugs, or if the guys just saw us moving in and figured we were an
easy
target because we weren't settled in yet, or if the movers told some

friends that we didn't have a phone line yet and my roommate had a
nice
car so they figured we had money or something. Anyway, we got out of

there that night and slept at my uncle's apartment, and now we're in
the
process of moving into a condo we're going to rent from some
cousins.

Thankfully, none of us were hurt, but it's a pain in the ass to have
to
move again. And, I really loved that house, it was a really nice
place,
and I spent so much time, money and effort painting and setting
everything up, but we would never feel safe there. The condo's in a
gated community but it's pretty small and dumpy, and we're having to
get
rid of a bunch of stuff, which might actually be a blessing in
disguise
because we have too much [censored] anyway. My cat's adjusting
suprisingly
well to being uprooted twice in a week, but I'm still a bit shaken
up
and can't eat much or sleep very long at a time. I'm at my sister's

house using her computer right now, and her husband may be able to
lend
me one until I can afford a new one. I'll try to check in again when
I
can get a break and get back over here.

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Ignoramus11962 said:

Luna, please accept my condolences.

If people broke into my house with guns etc, in the middle of the
night, they would quite possibly get shot by me.

My friend Gary said the fact that they were shouting "police" when they
smashed the doors in would probably make him hesitate to shoot them,
even though he keeps a loaded gun by his bed. I know I was only half
awake anyway, and it happened so damn fast I didn't even realize it
wasn't a dream until I was being pushed into the living room. It took a
while to even process the clues that they weren't really police too. I
mean, you do hear about cops doing drug raids at the wrong address, and
that's what I thought it was at first, just a mistake.

I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal, Luna.

I would make a list of who knew what and try to make sense of it.

I'm not sure I see the point of moving again. Emotionally, yes, you may not
feel comfortable there, but now they know you are not drug dealers with
mountains of cash....

"luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ok,we were moving from one house to another, got phones turned off at
the old house last thursday, but never got the phone turned on at the
new house because the phone company sucks and they don't show up when
they say they will.

Then, Sunday night at the new house, while we were all asleep, around
2AM, three masked guys with shotguns kicked in the doors. They were
wearing SWAT caps and jackets with "Police" on them. They brought us
all out to the living room and made us lie down facing the floor. At
first they said they were the cops and they suspected us of terrorist
activities, then they started yelling that they wanted the drugs and the
money and the guns. They took about 300 bucks from my dad's pants
pocket, the small tv from our roommate's room, and my 6 year old iMac.

We don't know if the people who rented the house before us were dealing
drugs, or if the guys just saw us moving in and figured we were an easy
target because we weren't settled in yet, or if the movers told some
friends that we didn't have a phone line yet and my roommate had a nice
car so they figured we had money or something. Anyway, we got out of
there that night and slept at my uncle's apartment, and now we're in the
process of moving into a condo we're going to rent from some cousins.

Thankfully, none of us were hurt, but it's a pain in the ass to have to
move again. And, I really loved that house, it was a really nice place,
and I spent so much time, money and effort painting and setting
everything up, but we would never feel safe there. The condo's in a
gated community but it's pretty small and dumpy, and we're having to get
rid of a bunch of stuff, which might actually be a blessing in disguise
because we have too much [censored] anyway. My cat's adjusting suprisingly
well to being uprooted twice in a week, but I'm still a bit shaken up
and can't eat much or sleep very long at a time. I'm at my sister's
house using her computer right now, and her husband may be able to lend
me one until I can afford a new one. I'll try to check in again when I
can get a break and get back over here.

Damn. Twlight Zone! I'm really glad you guys are okay. Hang tight!!

luna said:

Then, Sunday night at the new house, while we were all asleep, around
2AM, three masked guys with shotguns kicked in the doors. They were
wearing SWAT caps and jackets with "Police" on them. They brought us
all out to the living room and made us lie down facing the floor. At
first they said they were the cops and they suspected us of terrorist
activities, then they started yelling that they wanted the drugs and
the money and the guns. They took about 300 bucks from my dad's pants
pocket, the small tv from our roommate's room, and my 6 year old iMac.

damn... im sorry that had to happen to you.

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"Ignoramus11962" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

luna said:

Ignoramus11962 said:

Luna, please accept my condolences.

If people broke into my house with guns etc, in the middle of the
night, they would quite possibly get shot by me.

My friend Gary said the fact that they were shouting "police" when they
smashed the doors in would probably make him hesitate to shoot them,
even though he keeps a loaded gun by his bed. I know I was only half
awake anyway, and it happened so damn fast I didn't even realize it
wasn't a dream until I was being pushed into the living room. It took a
while to even process the clues that they weren't really police too. I
mean, you do hear about cops doing drug raids at the wrong address, and
that's what I thought it was at first, just a mistake.

What an upsetting story. It's probably difficult to wake up quickly
enough to shoot intruders in time. I am glad that yo two are alive,
and would not shed a tear if the robbers were killed.

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Oh, Luna, I am so sorry! What a horrible experience.

luna said:

Ignoramus11962 said:

Luna, please accept my condolences.

If people broke into my house with guns etc, in the middle of the
night, they would quite possibly get shot by me.

My friend Gary said the fact that they were shouting "police" when

they

Quoted message said:

smashed the doors in would probably make him hesitate to shoot them,
even though he keeps a loaded gun by his bed.

Exactly. Ig, I think very few law-abiding people would be likely to
shoot someone who burst in shouting "Police! Freeze!" if the home
invaders were putting up even a slightly believable impersonation of
same.

T.

"luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Ok,we were moving from one house to another, got phones turned off at
| the old house last thursday, but never got the phone turned on at the
| new house because the phone company sucks and they don't show up when
| they say they will.
|
| Then, Sunday night at the new house, while we were all asleep, around
| 2AM, three masked guys with shotguns kicked in the doors.

Geez Michelle, what a scary experience. I'm just glad you and your Dad and
your roommate are ok -- physically anyway. I know that something like this
has a lingering effect on your psyche. It feels like rape when your home is
violated; I had something similar happen a few years ago and I had to move
too; couldn't stay there another night.

I firmly believe that there's a reason for everything that happens to us.
Although you liked that house, it apparently wasn't the right place for you
to be. Good things will come out of the move to your condo, wait and see!
--
Peter
http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Cubit said:

I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal, Luna.

I would make a list of who knew what and try to make sense of it.

I'm not sure I see the point of moving again. Emotionally, yes, you may not
feel comfortable there, but now they know you are not drug dealers with
mountains of cash....

Yeah, but if they thought we had stuff, then other people might too.

luna said:

Cubit said:

I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal, Luna.

I would make a list of who knew what and try to make sense of it.

I'm not sure I see the point of moving again. Emotionally, yes, you may not
feel comfortable there, but now they know you are not drug dealers with
mountains of cash....

Yeah, but if they thought we had stuff, then other people might too.

people anywhere can think that, though. moving won't change that.

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"luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ok,we were moving from one house to another, got phones turned off at
the old house last thursday, but never got the phone turned on at the
new house because the phone company sucks and they don't show up when
they say they will.

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What a nightmare! :-(
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Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
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NOW WALKING 1.5 to 3 MILES DAY.
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little document promising only to have thoughts that conform to the
official ASDLC guidelines.
I hate it when that happens. (credit Sophie)
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I agree with her that they should move as soon as possible. If the house
was used by drug pushers in the past, I think she is right in thinking
that different atttackers might come again in the future. I assume the
police and the landlord/home owner know about her horrible experience.
The house should be closely watched in the future so that anyone else
who moves will get some protection. It's certainly a shame she and her
family weren't told of the past history of the house. If the
landlord/owner knew of past problems with the house, I wonder if she can
sue for not being warned and therefore the safety of her and her family
endangered.
Barbara

Ignoramus11962 said:

luna said:

Cubit said:

I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal, Luna.

I would make a list of who knew what and try to make sense of it.

I'm not sure I see the point of moving again. Emotionally, yes, you may not
feel comfortable there, but now they know you are not drug dealers with
mountains of cash....

Yeah, but if they thought we had stuff, then other people might too.

Put an NRA sticker on your vehicle, it might help.

luna said:

Ignoramus11962 said:

Luna, please accept my condolences.

If people broke into my house with guns etc, in the middle of the
night, they would quite possibly get shot by me.

My friend Gary said the fact that they were shouting "police" when they
smashed the doors in would probably make him hesitate to shoot them,
even though he keeps a loaded gun by his bed. I know I was only half
awake anyway, and it happened so damn fast I didn't even realize it
wasn't a dream until I was being pushed into the living room. It took a
while to even process the clues that they weren't really police too. I
mean, you do hear about cops doing drug raids at the wrong address, and
that's what I thought it was at first, just a mistake.

Exactly why allowing police to "serve a warrant" by kicking down doors in
the middle of the night was A Bad Thing. No being able to tell the good
guys from the bad guys is the ultimate expression of the ends justifying
the means. But hey, we wrapped that war on drugs up right quick and
clean, didn't we?

KeS

its good that i dont care about the risk of being unpopular. it seems my
opinions infuriate folks, but oh well. the war on drugs was the worst thing
we ever did. if people want to kill themselves, let em. tax it and make
money. /sigh.

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<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

luna said:

Ignoramus11962 said:

Luna, please accept my condolences.

If people broke into my house with guns etc, in the middle of the
night, they would quite possibly get shot by me.

My friend Gary said the fact that they were shouting "police" when they
smashed the doors in would probably make him hesitate to shoot them,
even though he keeps a loaded gun by his bed. I know I was only half
awake anyway, and it happened so damn fast I didn't even realize it
wasn't a dream until I was being pushed into the living room. It took a
while to even process the clues that they weren't really police too. I
mean, you do hear about cops doing drug raids at the wrong address, and
that's what I thought it was at first, just a mistake.

Exactly why allowing police to "serve a warrant" by kicking down doors in
the middle of the night was A Bad Thing. No being able to tell the good
guys from the bad guys is the ultimate expression of the ends justifying
the means. But hey, we wrapped that war on drugs up right quick and
clean, didn't we?

KeS

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Then, Sunday night at the new house, while we were all asleep, around
2AM, three masked guys with shotguns kicked in the doors. They were
wearing SWAT caps and jackets with "Police" on them. They brought us
all out to the living room and made us lie down facing the floor. At
first they said they were the cops and they suspected us of terrorist
activities, then they started yelling that they wanted the drugs and the
money and the guns. They took about 300 bucks from my dad's pants
pocket, the small tv from our roommate's room, and my 6 year old iMac.

Jesus Christ, what an ordeal!! I'm glad you and your father (and
roommate?) weren't physically hurt. I imagine the trauma will take some
time to abate, though!

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Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yeah, but if they thought we had stuff, then other people might too.

people anywhere can think that, though. moving won't change that.

I believe she said they moved to a condo in a gated community. Not that that
is inherently safer, but if they feel safer that's a plus.

HG

"marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I firmly believe that there's a reason for everything that happens to us.
Although you liked that house, it apparently wasn't the right place for

you

Quoted message said:

to be. Good things will come out of the move to your condo, wait and see!

That's a great way to look at it. Who knows, it might have happened again
but with worse consequences, too. So maybe this was a relatively harmless,
if traumatic, warning.

Luna, I'm glad you all came out of this ok and were able to find somewhere
else to move so quickly.

HG

Hannah Gruen said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Quoted message said:

Yeah, but if they thought we had stuff, then other people might too.

people anywhere can think that, though. moving won't change that.

I believe she said they moved to a condo in a gated community. Not that that
is inherently safer, but if they feel safer that's a plus.

feeling safer and actually being safer are two different things. i
agree that living in a gated community reduces some of the risk - anyone
wanting to get in there for illicit purposes will have to think twice
and is likely to just go for something easier - but it doesn't sound
like a great place to live for other reasons.

and there's no guarantee that other people living *inside* the gated
community wouldn't rip you off.

don't get me wrong, i'm glad Michelle and her family are ok and i don't
blame them for being rattled, i just don't think you can ever really
escape from people wanting to do stupid/mean things. they're
everywhere, even behind the gates of a gated condo community.