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  1. I was born in 1972 as a normal weighing child. I pretty much led a
    normal life, but have always been heavy. At the age of 3 months, my
    mother was feeding me what a 1 year old would eat. She always said I
    was happiest when I ate.

    All throughout my childhood, I was teased, and ridiculed about my
    weight. We all know how mean kids can be. I was not only big, but an
    early bloomer also. By the age of 13 I was already 5’11 and weighed
    220 pounds. I almost looked ridiculous entering the six grade, when
    most kids that age are about 5’ 120 pounds.

    When I was 16 years old, I ballooned to the weight of approximately 280
    pounds. I was fairly active playing high school football, and
    competing in the weight lifting. I was encouraged to be this size by
    coaches, because my weight was useful. As any male of that age, I
    began taking a great interest in girls. I decided that I was going to
    lose weight, and began on my first weight loss venture that summer.
    During the summer I lost about 60 pounds, and started my junior year of
    high school. I eventually got down to in high school at the weight of
    205. I looked and felt great, and since I was still lifting weights,
    my physic was still intact. I lost my weight doing lots of exercise,
    and really watching my diet. No specific diet, but just cutting down
    foods, not drinking full sugar sodas, etc.

    During my junior, I experienced my first real love, and began packing
    on pounds. By the time I had graduated from high school, and began
    college I was at about 290 pounds. At the age of 19, I ballooned to
    the weight of 309, and I decided that this was enough. This was around
    1991, where No FAT was the most popular thing. I invented my own diet
    where I tried to eat no fat, and as little protein as possible. Within
    7 months I dropped 109 lbs. I got as slow as 172 lbs by the time I
    realized I needed to stop losing weight. My diet basically consisted
    of:

    Breakfast: nothing
    Lunch: small can of tuna, with as many saltines as I wanted
    Dinner: bagel, or yellow rice, or pasta with tomatoes sauce (it was
    either 1 of these)
    Drank gallons of water a day

    I did tremendous amounts of exercise. Living at my parent’s house
    (going to college), I would basically play 2 hours of basketball
    everyday. Living in Florida, during the summer, you could imagine the
    heat and humidity. The weight just came off like melting butter.

    Within 2 years, I gained approximately 60-70 pounds, and weighing about
    250. Trying to eat normally after starving myself was very hard, and
    just started eating like always did, too much. Around this time, a
    family member mentioned Atkins to me. At that time I thought it was a
    crazy way to eat, and gave it a try. Unfortunately, my first attempt
    was very half hearted, and I quit after about a two week time period.
    Never reading the book, just was told eat meat and you will lose
    weight.

    During that time I began working at night while still going to school.
    I was working at a super market distribution center, and the work was
    very labor intensive. I lost 40 pounds during 1-year period just
    because of the amount of labor involved. Trying to work at night and
    trying to go to school, it was just so hectic that eating was
    secondary.

    A few years went by, probably around 1999, I had basically gained if
    not all most of any weight I had lost and was hovering around 300
    pounds again. At that time I was in bad shape, and was working in the
    computer industry. As we all know that these types of jobs are very
    sedentary, and my job was also fairly stressful. When I was 16, I
    started smoking, and continued during this whole time. At this point
    in my life I was smoking about 2 packs a day, weighing around 300
    pounds, and doing zero exercise. I had to make a significant change,
    or I figured I was going to either have any of numerous diseases being
    over weight causes, or be dead by 40.

    At this point I had already roller coasted 3 times, and really needed
    to find a permanent solution to my weight loss. This was approximately
    early 2000, where I was watching TV and caught a special on the Atkins
    diet. Basically got a rundown of ketosis, and what was involved. The
    information I got seemed like a simple thing to do, even though TV
    program portrayed it as unhealthy method of weight loss. I decided, I
    had nothing to lose, went out and bought the book.

    I thoroughly read the book, and pretty much understanding all the
    phases began the diet. Starting with induction, I began losing weight.
    At first, I was really apprehensive on weighing myself because of the
    fear of knowing how much I really weighed. After about 2-3 weeks, it
    was very noticeable that this was working. Not really doing any
    exercise, following a very strict induction, the weight began falling
    off. I stayed in induction level carbs for about 9 months and got down
    to 205 lbs. I did start during that time doing some exercise, which
    was 2-3 times a week I would go to a driving range and hit golf balls.
    Might not seem like exercise, but hitting a jumbo basket (150 golf
    balls) in about an hour can build up a sweat. At 205 lbs, I felt
    great, and looked that way also. I had also quit smoking, which really
    made it a double whammy.

    During the next couple of years (2001-2003), I maintained a fairly low
    carb diet. Not really the maintenance phase, but never returning to
    eating the way I used to. Not really restricting my intake, and almost
    doing zero exercise I began packing on the pounds again.

    In January 2003, I joined a gym and began to religiously go everyday.
    I lost a few pounds, but quickly quit going after about 2 months. My
    job had become even more stressful, and the company I had been working
    for (7 years) began having serious financial problems. Having just
    recently bought a new home, money, and stress began to get the best of
    me. By the time I found a new job I was weighing 237 lbs, this was
    August of 2003. By January of 2004, I was weighing 245 lbs.

    At 245 lbs, I said no way. I am not getting to 300 lbs again, and
    having to work my behind off to lose it. This would be my 4th roller
    coaster ride, and I was getting tired of it. Being 32 years of age, I
    knew that several things would start working against me:
    1. Age
    2. Lifestyle
    3. Work
    4. Disease

    So on January 5th, 2004 I began my new years resolution. I started
    going back to the gym I had been paying for and never going to, and I
    started induction again. I was working real hard, and noticed that the
    weight was not really coming off like it had before. I persisted, and
    weight slowly started coming off. It has taken me 12 months to lose 45
    pounds. Not insignificant, but compared to my either ventures, quite
    slow. One of major differences I am doing this time is more weight
    training along with cardio, so weight training could partially be too
    blame. Also, I have heard that doing low carb way of eating the second
    time can be more difficult.

    Currently (2/17/2004) I am weighing 203 pounds. My goal is to get
    below 195. My diet is fairly healthy and here is an example:

    Breakfast: Protein shake with Hoods Lo-Carb Chocolate Milk & Flax Seed
    powder. 56 Grams of Protein, 7 grams fiber, 13 grams of carbs
    1st Snack: Either Hoods Yogurt, Nuts (Peanuts, Almonds), Lo-Carb fruit
    Lunch: Spinach salad with red bell, hard-boiled egg, mushrooms, and
    other veggies. Always include some source of protein, i.e. 6 ounces of
    tuna, chicken breast, etc. Usually 2-3 tablespoons of full fat ranch
    2nd Snack: Any listed for 1st Snack
    Optional 3rd Snack: This is if I do weight training, for recovering, I
    will drink protein shake same as for breakfast.
    Dinner: Usually some protein with a low carb side (Beans, salad, etc.)

    I do take quite a bit of vitamins, and always having when doing any
    type of diet. Currently my supplements are:
     Multi vitamin
     L-Glutamin (twice daily)
     Chromium Piccolanate
     Flax Seed OIL (EFA complex) (twice daily)
     Ogema-3 (twice daily)
     CoQ10

    I do drink quite a bit of water during the day, and do drink as much
    caffeine as I want. I have never restricted my caffeine, and always
    thought it was bogus that Atkins said you should.

    The exercise I do is as follows:

    Weight Training:
    3 day split, 1 set to failure
    Monday: Push exercises (Chest, Tri’s, Shoulders)
    Tuesday: Legs (Squats, Leg Ext., Hamstrings, Calfs)
    Thursday: Bull exercises (Back, Bi’s, Traps)

    Cardio:
    Monday: 10 mins walking at highest incline, or running before workout
    for warm-up
    Tuesday: Same as Monday
    Wednesday: 30-45 mins of cardio. This can vary; it depends on what I
    feel like doing that day. For example it can high intensity interval
    training where I will sprint for 30 seconds, and then run for a minute
    and do that 6 times, and then run for the remainder of the time for a
    total of 30 mins of exercise. Another example is walk at 3.5mph at 15
    incline for 30 mins, and then ride a bike for 15 mins.
    Thursday: Same as Monday (Sometimes skip)
    Friday: abdominal workout, and cardio (30 mins)

    Saturday & Sunday: if I feel like going to the gym, I might do Cardio
    or weight training

    I tried to get to the gym at least 4 days a week. Unfortunately, my
    job sometimes does not allow the days I want, so I make up days on the
    weekends.

    I do use Fitday to track my intake, but not religiously. I vary
    between 1500-2000 calories a day, and about 30-50 grams of carbs a day.
    I tried to keep my body in question of what is coming next, and what I
    mean by that is 1 week I might reduce my calories, and then the next
    week increase it. Sometimes on the weekends, I will do a full day of
    carb loading, which causes tremendous amounts of water gain, but does
    feel great when doing the weight training.

    My experiences and opinions are that weight loss is not easy, and is
    very easy to gain weight. I think our society is obsessed with weight
    and image. In one way, we produce so much food, and having the highest
    obesity rate in the world, but yet we look everywhere and see very fit,
    skinny, and attractive images.

    Also, I am concerned about how our government and scientist play us for
    fools. I think the food pyramid is the biggest sham ever, and I cannot
    believe society even puts up with it. Having a eating guidelines
    produced by a commerce dept and not a scientific dept is almost stupid
    (Food pyramid was developed by the USDA which is a commerce dept.) No
    wonder all the high carb foods are the most plentiful to eat.

    I do believe that weight loss does come down to calories consume versus
    calories expended. Anyone believing you can eat whatever, just as long
    as it is low carb is being misled. This logic will usually work at the
    beginning, because of the tremendous amounts of water loss, but after
    while it does not apply. I also believe that a low carb type of eating
    is healthy combined with low carb food. These foods are meats,
    veggies, fruits, grains, etc. I do not believe in fake low carb food,
    even though I do consume some of them (specifically Hoods), most are
    either junk, taste terrible, or flat out lie about their
    macronutrients. People have to realize that eating ice cream is
    neither low carb, low in calories, nor low in fat. Ice cream is ice
    cream, and not a diet food.

    I also believe that doing a significant weight loss while low carbing
    the second time around is harder. I do not know what it is, but I
    think your body is already adjusted to a low carb way of eating, or
    does not react in the same way. During my last weight gain, I never
    really returned to “regular” eating. I ate higher carb foods, but
    would rarely eat something like a donut, bagel, or pasta.

    Once I reach my goal, I intend to continue eating low carb, but being
    mostly concerned with the GI index versus just carb count. My goal
    will be to stay under 100 carbs a day, and consume about 2000-2500
    calories a day. I do plan on continuing my exercise regiment, because
    I enjoy it.

    I give no excuses for my weight other than I love to eat. Eating is a
    pleasure for me, and I still enjoy it today. I just need to learn to
    enjoy it and not abuse it. I hope this information helps and maybe
    encourages someone to stick to it.

  2. So?

    --
    Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
    breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen

    "bainster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    I was born in 1972 as a normal weighing child. I pretty much led a
    normal life, but have always been heavy. At the age of 3 months, my
    mother was feeding me what a 1 year old would eat. She always said I
    was happiest when I ate.

    All throughout my childhood, I was teased, and ridiculed about my
    weight. We all know how mean kids can be. I was not only big, but an
    early bloomer also. By the age of 13 I was already 5'11 and weighed
    220 pounds. I almost looked ridiculous entering the six grade, when
    most kids that age are about 5' 120 pounds.

    When I was 16 years old, I ballooned to the weight of approximately 280
    pounds. I was fairly active playing high school football, and
    competing in the weight lifting. I was encouraged to be this size by
    coaches, because my weight was useful. As any male of that age, I
    began taking a great interest in girls. I decided that I was going to
    lose weight, and began on my first weight loss venture that summer.
    During the summer I lost about 60 pounds, and started my junior year of
    high school. I eventually got down to in high school at the weight of
    205. I looked and felt great, and since I was still lifting weights,
    my physic was still intact. I lost my weight doing lots of exercise,
    and really watching my diet. No specific diet, but just cutting down
    foods, not drinking full sugar sodas, etc.

    During my junior, I experienced my first real love, and began packing
    on pounds. By the time I had graduated from high school, and began
    college I was at about 290 pounds. At the age of 19, I ballooned to
    the weight of 309, and I decided that this was enough. This was around
    1991, where No FAT was the most popular thing. I invented my own diet
    where I tried to eat no fat, and as little protein as possible. Within
    7 months I dropped 109 lbs. I got as slow as 172 lbs by the time I
    realized I needed to stop losing weight. My diet basically consisted
    of:

    Breakfast: nothing
    Lunch: small can of tuna, with as many saltines as I wanted
    Dinner: bagel, or yellow rice, or pasta with tomatoes sauce (it was
    either 1 of these)
    Drank gallons of water a day

    I did tremendous amounts of exercise. Living at my parent's house
    (going to college), I would basically play 2 hours of basketball
    everyday. Living in Florida, during the summer, you could imagine the
    heat and humidity. The weight just came off like melting butter.

    Within 2 years, I gained approximately 60-70 pounds, and weighing about
    250. Trying to eat normally after starving myself was very hard, and
    just started eating like always did, too much. Around this time, a
    family member mentioned Atkins to me. At that time I thought it was a
    crazy way to eat, and gave it a try. Unfortunately, my first attempt
    was very half hearted, and I quit after about a two week time period.
    Never reading the book, just was told eat meat and you will lose
    weight.

    During that time I began working at night while still going to school.
    I was working at a super market distribution center, and the work was
    very labor intensive. I lost 40 pounds during 1-year period just
    because of the amount of labor involved. Trying to work at night and
    trying to go to school, it was just so hectic that eating was
    secondary.

    A few years went by, probably around 1999, I had basically gained if
    not all most of any weight I had lost and was hovering around 300
    pounds again. At that time I was in bad shape, and was working in the
    computer industry. As we all know that these types of jobs are very
    sedentary, and my job was also fairly stressful. When I was 16, I
    started smoking, and continued during this whole time. At this point
    in my life I was smoking about 2 packs a day, weighing around 300
    pounds, and doing zero exercise. I had to make a significant change,
    or I figured I was going to either have any of numerous diseases being
    over weight causes, or be dead by 40.

    At this point I had already roller coasted 3 times, and really needed
    to find a permanent solution to my weight loss. This was approximately
    early 2000, where I was watching TV and caught a special on the Atkins
    diet. Basically got a rundown of ketosis, and what was involved. The
    information I got seemed like a simple thing to do, even though TV
    program portrayed it as unhealthy method of weight loss. I decided, I
    had nothing to lose, went out and bought the book.

    I thoroughly read the book, and pretty much understanding all the
    phases began the diet. Starting with induction, I began losing weight.
    At first, I was really apprehensive on weighing myself because of the
    fear of knowing how much I really weighed. After about 2-3 weeks, it
    was very noticeable that this was working. Not really doing any
    exercise, following a very strict induction, the weight began falling
    off. I stayed in induction level carbs for about 9 months and got down
    to 205 lbs. I did start during that time doing some exercise, which
    was 2-3 times a week I would go to a driving range and hit golf balls.
    Might not seem like exercise, but hitting a jumbo basket (150 golf
    balls) in about an hour can build up a sweat. At 205 lbs, I felt
    great, and looked that way also. I had also quit smoking, which really
    made it a double whammy.

    During the next couple of years (2001-2003), I maintained a fairly low
    carb diet. Not really the maintenance phase, but never returning to
    eating the way I used to. Not really restricting my intake, and almost
    doing zero exercise I began packing on the pounds again.

    In January 2003, I joined a gym and began to religiously go everyday.
    I lost a few pounds, but quickly quit going after about 2 months. My
    job had become even more stressful, and the company I had been working
    for (7 years) began having serious financial problems. Having just
    recently bought a new home, money, and stress began to get the best of
    me. By the time I found a new job I was weighing 237 lbs, this was
    August of 2003. By January of 2004, I was weighing 245 lbs.

    At 245 lbs, I said no way. I am not getting to 300 lbs again, and
    having to work my behind off to lose it. This would be my 4th roller
    coaster ride, and I was getting tired of it. Being 32 years of age, I
    knew that several things would start working against me:
    1. Age
    2. Lifestyle
    3. Work
    4. Disease

    So on January 5th, 2004 I began my new years resolution. I started
    going back to the gym I had been paying for and never going to, and I
    started induction again. I was working real hard, and noticed that the
    weight was not really coming off like it had before. I persisted, and
    weight slowly started coming off. It has taken me 12 months to lose 45
    pounds. Not insignificant, but compared to my either ventures, quite
    slow. One of major differences I am doing this time is more weight
    training along with cardio, so weight training could partially be too
    blame. Also, I have heard that doing low carb way of eating the second
    time can be more difficult.

    Currently (2/17/2004) I am weighing 203 pounds. My goal is to get
    below 195. My diet is fairly healthy and here is an example:

    Breakfast: Protein shake with Hoods Lo-Carb Chocolate Milk & Flax Seed
    powder. 56 Grams of Protein, 7 grams fiber, 13 grams of carbs
    1st Snack: Either Hoods Yogurt, Nuts (Peanuts, Almonds), Lo-Carb fruit
    Lunch: Spinach salad with red bell, hard-boiled egg, mushrooms, and
    other veggies. Always include some source of protein, i.e. 6 ounces of
    tuna, chicken breast, etc. Usually 2-3 tablespoons of full fat ranch
    2nd Snack: Any listed for 1st Snack
    Optional 3rd Snack: This is if I do weight training, for recovering, I
    will drink protein shake same as for breakfast.
    Dinner: Usually some protein with a low carb side (Beans, salad, etc.)

    I do take quite a bit of vitamins, and always having when doing any
    type of diet. Currently my supplements are:
    ? Multi vitamin
    ? L-Glutamin (twice daily)
    ? Chromium Piccolanate
    ? Flax Seed OIL (EFA complex) (twice daily)
    ? Ogema-3 (twice daily)
    ? CoQ10

    I do drink quite a bit of water during the day, and do drink as much
    caffeine as I want. I have never restricted my caffeine, and always
    thought it was bogus that Atkins said you should.

    The exercise I do is as follows:

    Weight Training:
    3 day split, 1 set to failure
    Monday: Push exercises (Chest, Tri's, Shoulders)
    Tuesday: Legs (Squats, Leg Ext., Hamstrings, Calfs)
    Thursday: Bull exercises (Back, Bi's, Traps)

    Cardio:
    Monday: 10 mins walking at highest incline, or running before workout
    for warm-up
    Tuesday: Same as Monday
    Wednesday: 30-45 mins of cardio. This can vary; it depends on what I
    feel like doing that day. For example it can high intensity interval
    training where I will sprint for 30 seconds, and then run for a minute
    and do that 6 times, and then run for the remainder of the time for a
    total of 30 mins of exercise. Another example is walk at 3.5mph at 15
    incline for 30 mins, and then ride a bike for 15 mins.
    Thursday: Same as Monday (Sometimes skip)
    Friday: abdominal workout, and cardio (30 mins)

    Saturday & Sunday: if I feel like going to the gym, I might do Cardio
    or weight training

    I tried to get to the gym at least 4 days a week. Unfortunately, my
    job sometimes does not allow the days I want, so I make up days on the
    weekends.

    I do use Fitday to track my intake, but not religiously. I vary
    between 1500-2000 calories a day, and about 30-50 grams of carbs a day.
    I tried to keep my body in question of what is coming next, and what I
    mean by that is 1 week I might reduce my calories, and then the next
    week increase it. Sometimes on the weekends, I will do a full day of
    carb loading, which causes tremendous amounts of water gain, but does
    feel great when doing the weight training.

    My experiences and opinions are that weight loss is not easy, and is
    very easy to gain weight. I think our society is obsessed with weight
    and image. In one way, we produce so much food, and having the highest
    obesity rate in the world, but yet we look everywhere and see very fit,
    skinny, and attractive images.

    Also, I am concerned about how our government and scientist play us for
    fools. I think the food pyramid is the biggest sham ever, and I cannot
    believe society even puts up with it. Having a eating guidelines
    produced by a commerce dept and not a scientific dept is almost stupid
    (Food pyramid was developed by the USDA which is a commerce dept.) No
    wonder all the high carb foods are the most plentiful to eat.

    I do believe that weight loss does come down to calories consume versus
    calories expended. Anyone believing you can eat whatever, just as long
    as it is low carb is being misled. This logic will usually work at the
    beginning, because of the tremendous amounts of water loss, but after
    while it does not apply. I also believe that a low carb type of eating
    is healthy combined with low carb food. These foods are meats,
    veggies, fruits, grains, etc. I do not believe in fake low carb food,
    even though I do consume some of them (specifically Hoods), most are
    either junk, taste terrible, or flat out lie about their
    macronutrients. People have to realize that eating ice cream is
    neither low carb, low in calories, nor low in fat. Ice cream is ice
    cream, and not a diet food.

    I also believe that doing a significant weight loss while low carbing
    the second time around is harder. I do not know what it is, but I
    think your body is already adjusted to a low carb way of eating, or
    does not react in the same way. During my last weight gain, I never
    really returned to "regular" eating. I ate higher carb foods, but
    would rarely eat something like a donut, bagel, or pasta.

    Once I reach my goal, I intend to continue eating low carb, but being
    mostly concerned with the GI index versus just carb count. My goal
    will be to stay under 100 carbs a day, and consume about 2000-2500
    calories a day. I do plan on continuing my exercise regiment, because
    I enjoy it.

    I give no excuses for my weight other than I love to eat. Eating is a
    pleasure for me, and I still enjoy it today. I just need to learn to
    enjoy it and not abuse it. I hope this information helps and maybe
    encourages someone to stick to it.

  3. Good morning,

    Perdu said:

    On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:21:05 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
    <[email hidden]>
    Cried out loud... :

    Quoted message said:

    So?

    01000001011101000111010001100001011000100110111101111001001000000110011001110101011000110110101101101000011001010110000101100100001000010010000001000001011011100110111101110100011010000110010101110010001000000100011101100101011011010010000001101111011001100010000001100001001000000111000001101111011100110111010000100001

    There's a fairly novel approach. A few folks have used Morse code on
    me when they find out I'm an amateur radio operator, but it's been a
    while since I've seen this. :-)

    Take care,
    Carmen

    --
    Please note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com
    Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned

  4. Carmen said:

    Good morning,

    Perdu said:

    On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:21:05 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
    <[email hidden]>
    Cried out loud... :

    Quoted message said:

    So?

    01000001011101000111010001100001011000100110111101111001001000000110011001110101011000110110101101101000011001010110000101100100001000010010000001000001011011100110111101110100011010000110010101110010001000000100011101100101011011010010000001101111011001100010000001100001001000000111000001101111011100110111010000100001

    There's a fairly novel approach. A few folks have used Morse code on
    me when they find out I'm an amateur radio operator, but it's been a
    while since I've seen this. :-)

    Take care,
    Carmen

    I thought it was a great story (not the Morse code, which I can't read).
    This is typical JC -- a negative comment.

    --
    Bob in CT

  5. "bainster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <Story snipped>

    Interesting story. Do you get your body fat % measured, and if so what is
    it? This info is a lot more useful than body weight, particularly when
    you've lost quite a bit. Oh, and I suppose your work outs include abs?

  6. Perdu said:

    On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 07:54:54 -0500, "Bob M" <[email hidden]>
    Cried out loud... :

    Quoted message said:
    Carmen said:

    Good morning,
    On 17-Feb-2005, Perdu <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:21:05 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
    > <[email hidden]>
    > Cried out loud... :
    >
    > > So?
    >
    >


    01000001011101000111010001100001011000100110111101111001001000000110011001110101011000110110101101101000011001010110000101100100001000010010000001000001011011100110111101110100011010000110010101110010001000000100011101100101011011010010000001101111011001100010000001100001001000000111000001101111011100110111010000100001

    Quoted message said:


    There's a fairly novel approach. A few folks have used Morse code on
    me when they find out I'm an amateur radio operator, but it's been a
    while since I've seen this. :-)

    Take care,
    Carmen

    I thought it was a great story (not the Morse code, which I can't read).
    This is typical JC -- a negative comment.

    It does send the message to the idiot, without disturbing most people.
    If
    he can BOT so can I. 🙂 Can't be as irritating as calling people fat,
    that
    are struggling in some cases to lose weight and get healthy.

    Best Regards,
    Steve

    Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur

    What I wonder is if the online persona is the same as the offline persona;
    if so, I feel bad for JC.

    --
    Bob in CT

  7. I eat lots of LC ice cream. (Lots by percentage of calories.) It is a
    wonderful diet food.

    You need to learn portion control.

    "bainster" <[email hidden]> wrote horse manure in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    People have to realize that eating ice cream is
    neither low carb, low in calories, nor low in fat. Ice cream is ice
    cream, and not a diet food.

  8. Cubit said:

    I eat lots of LC ice cream. (Lots by percentage of calories.) It is a
    wonderful diet food.

    You need to learn portion control.

    "bainster" <[email hidden]> wrote horse manure in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    People have to realize that eating ice cream is
    neither low carb, low in calories, nor low in fat. Ice cream is ice
    cream, and not a diet food.

    You mean that some people can eat low carb ice cream; you're apparently
    one of them. Other people (like me) are too weak-willed to have such ice
    cream in the house. If I want ice cream, I ride my bike as long as I can,
    then I go down the road to the local farm and get some real ice cream
    generated from milk from cows that live on the farm. I order a small and
    preferably split it with my girlfriend. This way, I get the ice cream I
    want but don't have it sitting around the house, beckoning me like the
    evil force it is. ;-)

    Anyone see "Dodgeball"? Particularly, the scene where he shocks himself?
    That's the type of machine I need.

    --
    Bob in CT

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I give no excuses for my weight other than I love to eat. Eating is a
    pleasure for me, and I still enjoy it today. I just need to learn to
    enjoy it and not abuse it. I hope this information helps and maybe
    encourages someone to stick to it.

    Hi Bainster, welcome to the group! Glad to hear that you are eating
    healthy, exercising and sticking to it this time!

    --
    Saffire
    205/144/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  10. Bob M said:

    If I want ice cream, I ride my bike as long as
    I can, then I go down the road to the local farm and get some real ice
    cream generated from milk from cows that live on the farm.

    sounds v v nice. couple of years back I used to cycle to my nearest supermarket
    (2 miles away) to get italian ice cream. unsurprisingly I put on about 10 lbs
    in that year. :-(

  11. Cubit said:

    I eat lots of LC ice cream. (Lots by percentage of calories.) It is a
    wonderful diet food.

    You need to learn portion control.

    "bainster" <[email hidden]> wrote horse manure in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    People have to realize that eating ice cream is
    neither low carb, low in calories, nor low in fat. Ice cream is ice
    cream, and not a diet food.


    Ice cream is a no no.

  12. So you are just talking trash from behind the safety of your keyboard again.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Perdu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 02:50:12 GMT, "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]>
    Cried out loud... :

    Quoted message said:

    Bring it on, fatboy.


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    Best Regards,

    Steve

    Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur

  13. JC Der Koenig said:

    So you are just talking trash from behind the safety of your keyboard again.


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  14. JC Der Koenig said:

    So you are just talking trash from behind the safety of your keyboard
    again.

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  15. "bainster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    blame. Also, I have heard that doing low carb way of eating the second
    time can be more difficult.


    [SNIP]

    Quoted message said:

    I also believe that doing a significant weight loss while low carbing
    the second time around is harder. I do not know what it is, but I
    think your body is already adjusted to a low carb way of eating, or
    does not react in the same way. During my last weight gain, I never
    really returned to "regular" eating. I ate higher carb foods, but
    would rarely eat something like a donut, bagel, or pasta.

    i completely agree. while ive lost a lot this time around b/c i stopped
    almost all of my meds (cant give up the bcp's yet) its been a lot easier,
    but not nearly as easy as the first time years ago. i wonder if its the
    number of times you try the plan, or is it just that youre getting older
    each time you try it?

    Quoted message said:

    I give no excuses for my weight other than I love to eat. Eating is a
    pleasure for me, and I still enjoy it today. I just need to learn to
    enjoy it and not abuse it. I hope this information helps and maybe
    encourages someone to stick to it.

    i know exactly how you feel. our family loves to eat too. we celebrate
    with food like nobody's business! we all grew up loving food, but very few
    of us actually are overweight. seems like my mom and i are the only ones
    who have any insulin problems too. then again, the rest of them are dieting
    like crazy between family get togethers, but once we do get together, its a
    big festival. how could one not grow up loving food in that type of fun
    atmosphere. your story does help, and i can relate to it a lot. i hope you
    can keep going, you seem very close to your goal 🙂

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