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after long layoff...best way to come back?

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  1. After training HARD for 3 years, I had a back injury and subsequently
    got lazy - I've been out for about a year now. I'm getting back into
    the gym (for about 3 weeks now), and I haven't lost as much strength as
    I was dreading. Still squatting 115 (i'm a girl), pulling 155,
    benching 95, etc. (I thought I'd be back to thinking the bar was real
    heavy after that long away.)

    My question is, how slow should I start back? Today was posterior
    chain and back and after SLDLs and shrugs and rows I was looking
    longingly at the glute-ham raise bench (my old gym didn't have one) -
    but I already KNOW I'm not going to be able to walk (or, more
    accurately, bend over) tomorrow, so I resisted the temptation.

    Since I didn't go COMPLETELY back to ground zero, should I just barrel
    back into it and do the most I can do? Or should I try to ease back
    into things? When I stopped lifting I was doing a heavily
    strength-based (not hypertrophy-based) program with heavy singles,
    doubles, triples, etc - right now I'd like to lose some of the
    disgusting fat that snuck on during my year in limbo. So I was
    thinking of a hybrid bb/pl style program; ~4 exercises per workout, big
    heavy compounds first, 4 sets of 8-10 - then 3 sets of 10-12 on the
    smaller moves.

    Is this a good plan? I knew enough back then to design my own (basic)
    workouts, but I have no idea what's the best way to go about coming out
    of a long layoff. Never had to do it before. (And I DAMN sure never
    will again...nothing more enraging than seeing little plates on the bar
    where there should be big ones!!)

    Thanks. And I'm new here. So don't be too nasty right off - let me
    get broken in a little bit first.

    Heath

  2. You sound serious about lifting. I can give you more info but I need a
    little more data. What kind of back injury did you have and how was it
    treated? Have you ever torn a muscle? During your layoff, did you
    stretch? Are you younger than 27? Bear with me on the age thing.
    Around the age of 27, the cortisol bump athletes get after training
    starts to deteriorate and they are more prone to injuries. So if you
    are older, and jump back into heavy weights after a significant layoff,
    you are more likely to tear a muscle within about three months. I got
    a small tear in my quad with 225 about three months after a layoff and
    I was squatting 495 for reps every week at the time. Your muscles are
    a lot stronger than they should be after a layoff so if you train heavy
    you start to go into recovery deficit and eventually... zip. Of
    course, that's if you are old. When you are young you can get away
    with murder.

    There is a lot of rehab information out there for weight lifters and
    track athletes that are coming back from injury, but it was developed
    for the most part on college age individuals. If you are older it
    might be a formula for a torn muscle.

    My recommendation is that you start light and graduate slowly. Get
    yourself in great shape first - lean, cardio, stretch. But if you
    stretch too hard you can set up for another injury. Keep your back
    arched when you stretch your hams. If you get a backache from
    stretching this is usually the reason. After my torn quad I spent a
    year slowly coming back and now I'm stronger than ever and I even
    rehab'd the shoulder I tore 20 years ago. If you want more info email
    me at [email hidden]

  3. Well, let's see....the back injury was from deadlifing a max double - I
    rounded on the second pull. You know those two teeny little muscles
    (about the size of your thumbs) that feel like they connect the
    erectors to the pelvis, on either side of the very bottom of the spine
    before it turns into butt? I felt the right one of those muscles pop
    during the pull, and then later it hurt like hell, all the time,
    especially when I was sitting down. For about 8 months. I don't think
    it's ever going to be exactly right again - if I sit in a certain way
    for too long it twinges like crazy, but it's as better as it's going to
    get, and I'm just going to be super careful about deadlifting. I never
    got it treated by a doctor- I know the stats on how well medical
    treatment for back injuries works. I just iced and heated, took advil,
    quit lifitng, and sat careful.

    I walked some and stretched (not all the time, or anything - but I
    didn't get inflexible over the break) - I'm fatter than I'd like to be
    from the inactivity, but I'm not horrible. However, I am 34. I guess
    I'll have to work back in easy, then.

    So...cortisol is the one that repairs connective tissue, right? Does
    that mean that over a layoff you lose more strength in the connective
    tissue than in the muscle itself, and that if you just get back in
    heavy you'll eventually get to the point where you can lift more than
    your connective tissue can handle, or what?

    Thanks for the post. I will email you for more specifics - thanks for
    that, too.

    Heath

  4. Heath said:

    Is this a good plan? I knew enough back then to design my own (basic)
    workouts, but I have no idea what's the best way to go about coming out
    of a long layoff. Never had to do it before. (And I DAMN sure never
    will again...nothing more enraging than seeing little plates on the bar
    where there should be big ones!!)

    Hmmm... I don't know what the experts will say (I am interested in
    finding out), but common sense would argue for starting back more gently
    and working your way up. It seems that there would be little lost in
    building up more gradually, and potentially a lot of downside in ramping
    up too quickly too soon. Like not being able to lift for another year.
    Is there a compelling reason to push hard early?

  5. No, nothing compelling - except that I'm competitive with myself.
    (Which is what got me injured in the first place.) I know it should be
    fairly gradual and I'm planning to be sensible about it (assuming I can
    curb my raging lust to pick up very heavy things) - I'm wondering about
    specifics like volume of work, rep ranges, etc. I know I shouldn't be
    working heavy singles and doubles or anything, but I haven't done a
    BB-style routine in a while, and I wanted to check with the
    Knowledgable Ones on my plan.

  6. Heath said:

    No, nothing compelling - except that I'm competitive with myself.
    (Which is what got me injured in the first place.) I know it should be
    fairly gradual and I'm planning to be sensible about it (assuming I can
    curb my raging lust to pick up very heavy things) - I'm wondering about
    specifics like volume of work, rep ranges, etc. I know I shouldn't be
    working heavy singles and doubles or anything, but I haven't done a
    BB-style routine in a while, and I wanted to check with the
    Knowledgable Ones on my plan.

    Sounds reasonable. Good luck with the comeback.

  7. "Heath" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    After training HARD for 3 years, I had a back injury and subsequently
    got lazy - I've been out for about a year now. I'm getting back into
    the gym (for about 3 weeks now), and I haven't lost as much strength as
    I was dreading. Still squatting 115 (i'm a girl), pulling 155,
    benching 95, etc. (I thought I'd be back to thinking the bar was real
    heavy after that long away.)

    My question is, how slow should I start back? [snip]

    Since I didn't go COMPLETELY back to ground zero, should I just barrel
    back into it and do the most I can do? Or should I try to ease back
    into things? [snip]

    Heath,
    One thing that hasn't been mentioned occurred to me. You might want to
    spend a day a week working on the foundation-type stuff. You know,
    connective tissues, abdominals, small muscle groups like the rotator cuff,
    that sort of thing. Seems like these probably need as much attention as the
    bigger muscles when you're coming back from a layoff.

    I had an injury-based year off a couple of years ago, and I spent a few
    months conditioning before I returned full force. I think it made a
    positive difference.

    Good luck,
    Selene

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