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  1. Hi!
    I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
    for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
    I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
    that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
    hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
    the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
    Rim: 599 ERD
    Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
    Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
    Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
    X4.
    Any thoughts?

    Ante Smokrovic
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    ICQ: 5924617

  2. smokva said:

    Hi!
    I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
    for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
    I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
    that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
    hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
    the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
    Rim: 599 ERD
    Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
    Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
    Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
    X4.
    Any thoughts?

    Ante Smokrovic
    ========================
    [email hidden]
    [email hidden]
    ICQ: 5924617

    Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
    spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
    right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

  3. Qui Si Parla Campagnolo said:

    Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
    spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
    right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

    I live in Croatia....don't bother with sending, shipping would probbably cost
    more than spokes 🙂)

    Ante Smokrovic
    ========================
    [email hidden]
    [email hidden]
    ICQ: 5924617

  4. On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:08:01 -0700, Qui Si Parla Campagnolo

    may have said:
    smokva said:

    Hi!
    I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
    for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
    I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
    that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
    hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
    the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
    Rim: 599 ERD
    Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
    Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
    Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
    X4.
    Any thoughts?

    Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
    spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
    right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

    He's either in Croatia or Herzegovina if I'm reading the headers
    correctly.

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  5. smokva said:

    Hi!
    I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
    for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
    I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
    that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
    hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
    the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
    Rim: 599 ERD
    Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
    Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
    Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
    X4.
    Any thoughts?

    I'd go x3. x4 is best for 40 spokes or more. As well as head
    interference you can get acute spoke/rim angles.

  6. Quoted message said:
    Qui Si Parla Campagnolo said:

    Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
    spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
    right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

    smokva said:

    I live in Croatia....don't bother with sending, shipping would probbably cost
    more than spokes 🙂)

    Au contraire.

    I can get 2 wheels worth of spokes/nipples to you in under
    a week for $10.

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    Andrew Muzi
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    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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