Feeling Hungry?

NYC XYZ wrote:
:: Hi, All:
::
:: Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask
:: 'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just
:: was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I
:: know it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I
:: didn't do nothing but sit at the desk....
::

25g protein = 100 calories. So, saying your salad had at least 100 calories
ain't saying much. if you weigh 400 lbs then just moving about during the
day will place a significant energy demand on your body.

Whether you should heed your stomach depends on how much you're eating and
where that level is compared to your maintenances needs, and your other
goals in terms of weight loss or gain, etc.

Roger Zoul said:

NYC XYZ wrote:
:: Hi, All:
::
:: Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask
:: 'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just
:: was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I
:: know it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I
:: didn't do nothing but sit at the desk....
::

25g protein = 100 calories. So, saying your salad had at least 100
calories
ain't saying much. if you weigh 400 lbs then just moving about during the
day will place a significant energy demand on your body.

Whether you should heed your stomach depends on how much you're eating and
where that level is compared to your maintenances needs, and your other
goals in terms of weight loss or gain, etc.

Protein is not a proper measure of how filling food items ought to be. The
body needs carbohydrates, fat, fibre, etc. and although protein might be
your focus if you work out, it only partially affects your appetite. When I
want to put an end to appetite after a meal, I just have an apple or two.

Roy

--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: NYC XYZ wrote:
::::: Hi, All:
:::::
::::: Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I
::::: ask 'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just
::::: yesterday, I just was hungry just an hour and a half after my
::::: chicken salad! Now I know it's salad, but there was 25g of
::::: protein in there! And I didn't do nothing but sit at the desk....
:::::
:::
::: 25g protein = 100 calories. So, saying your salad had at least 100
::: calories
::: ain't saying much. if you weigh 400 lbs then just moving about
::: during the day will place a significant energy demand on your body.
:::
::: Whether you should heed your stomach depends on how much you're
::: eating and where that level is compared to your maintenances needs,
::: and your other goals in terms of weight loss or gain, etc.
::
:: Protein is not a proper measure of how filling food items ought to
:: be. The body needs carbohydrates, fat, fibre, etc. and although
:: protein might be your focus if you work out, it only partially
:: affects your appetite. When I want to put an end to appetite after a
:: meal, I just have an apple or two.
::

A lot of people here think protein suppresses appetite. There have been
studies that claim that as well.

So what are the consequences of not eating when hungry? I mean, does
the body automatically burn fat, or does it seek out the muscle first,
or what? I don't mean starvation; I mean just like, at worst, skipping
a meal (or, actually, even "fasting" for a whole day, say).

IOW, any harmful consequences?

Thanks again!

Roger Zoul said:

A lot of people here think protein suppresses appetite. There have been
studies that claim that as well.

Yes indeed. Here's one:

*
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14557793

The significance of protein in food intake and body weight regulation.

SUMMARY: Protein is more satiating than carbohydrate and fat in the
short term, over 24 h and in the long term. Thermogenesis plays a role
in this satiety effect, but the role of satiety hormones still needs to
be elucidated.

greg said:

Roger Zoul said:

A lot of people here think protein suppresses appetite. There have

been

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studies that claim that as well.

Yes indeed. Here's one:

*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14557793

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The significance of protein in food intake and body weight

regulation.

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SUMMARY: Protein is more satiating than carbohydrate and fat in the
short term, over 24 h and in the long term. Thermogenesis plays a

role

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in this satiety effect, but the role of satiety hormones still needs

to

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be elucidated.

Hmm! I do know that having a steak seems much more satisfying than
even four times the weight in pasta, but I kinda thought that that was
in some significant part due to the oil/fat involved.

NYC XYZ said:

Hmm! I do know that having a steak seems much more satisfying than
even four times the weight in pasta, but I kinda thought that that was
in some significant part due to the oil/fat involved.

The role of fat is unclear to me in satiation. We find it palatable but
don't seem to have any taste receptors for it.

The one thing that i did find that make sense is that protein with fiber
and fat takes longer to digest so it is more filling.

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Hi, All:
Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask
'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just
was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I know
it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I didn't do
nothing but sit at the desk....

Do you take supplemental digestive enzymes?
If not, use a search engine for these words: "digestive
enzymes."

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Hi, All:
Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask
'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just
was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I know
it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I didn't do
nothing but sit at the desk....

Do you take supplemental digestive enzymes?
If not, use a search engine for these words: "digestive
enzymes."

OK, I may regret this, but I'll bite: what is the connection between the
OP's symptoms and "supplemental digestive enzymes"?

David

greg said:

The role of fat is unclear to me in satiation. We find it palatable

but

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don't seem to have any taste receptors for it.

Hmm, interesting! Never thought of that...but then again, we don't
have a taste for protein, either...plain beef or chicken or anything is
just boring to chew...that fat really does do something for it!

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The one thing that i did find that make sense is that protein with

fiber

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and fat takes longer to digest so it is more filling.

Well, yes, I guess it just sits in the stomach longer or something...?

I'm trying to eat healthy, but it's been driving me crazy! Not just
feeling the munchies, wanting to nosh -- but actually feeling empty,
just short of actual hunger! Nuts.

NYC XYZ said:

So what are the consequences of not eating when hungry?

The body has excess fat and nutrients. Appetite is a 'mechniam' which
ensures you have regular 'input'.

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I mean, does
the body automatically burn fat, or does it seek out the muscle first,
or what?

Muscles are not broken down if you skip a meal or two.

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I don't mean starvation; I mean just like, at worst, skipping
a meal (or, actually, even "fasting" for a whole day, say).

Perhaps it depends on your physique.

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IOW, any harmful consequences?

Thanks again!

Some talk about the benefits of fasting once in a while, but I never
'bought' it. I think that the most healthy and natural thing to do is
submit to your body and eat when it tells you to. Supressing hunger is
possibly not much different from sleep deprivation, which is chronic.

Roy

--
Roy Schestowitz
http://schestowitz.com

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Muscles are not broken down if you skip a meal or two.

please provide citations for that.

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Hmm, interesting! Never thought of that...but then again, we don't
have a taste for protein, either...plain beef or chicken or anything is
just boring to chew...that fat really does do something for it!

fat it the solvent for most of the gustatory substances.. very lean food
tastes more bland than food with higher fat content (with the same ammount
of carbohydrates).

David Cohen said:

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Hi, All:
Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I

ask

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'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I

just

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was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I

know

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it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I didn't

do

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nothing but sit at the desk....

Do you take supplemental digestive enzymes?
If not, use a search engine for these words:

"digestive

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enzymes."

OK, I may regret this, but I'll bite: what is the connection between

the

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OP's symptoms and "supplemental digestive enzymes"?

<crickets chirping>

David

David Cohen said:

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Hi, All:
Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I
ask 'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday,
I just was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I
know it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And
I didn't do nothing but sit at the desk....

Do you take supplemental digestive enzymes?
If not, use a search engine for these words: "digestive
enzymes."

OK, I may regret this, but I'll bite: what is the connection between
the OP's symptoms and "supplemental digestive enzymes"?

David

There is a correlation David. You see, studies have shown that when
symptoms were exposed to large quantities of digestive enzymes, there was a
fubar effect noticed. By large quantities, I mean 220, 230...whatever it
takes.
--
-Larry

Larry Hodges said:

David Cohen said:

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Hi, All:
> Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I
> ask 'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just

yesterday,

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> I just was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad!

Now I

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> know it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And
> I didn't do nothing but sit at the desk....

Do you take supplemental digestive enzymes?
If not, use a search engine for these words:

"digestive

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enzymes."

OK, I may regret this, but I'll bite: what is the connection

between

Quoted message said:

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the OP's symptoms and "supplemental digestive enzymes"?

There is a correlation David. You see, studies have shown that when
symptoms were exposed to large quantities of digestive enzymes, there

was a

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fubar effect noticed. By large quantities, I mean 220,

230...whatever it

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takes.

Ooooo, fubar effect! I like when that happens.

David

Yes, You should never be hungry, in fat once you are hungry your body is
already cannibalizing. if 25 grams is not doing it hen step it up. Your
body should be able to handle 50grams a meal. Also you might add more
carbs, the protein will not necessarily crave your hunger.

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Hi, All:

Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask
'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just
was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I know
it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I didn't do
nothing but sit at the desk....

TIA!

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Hi, All:

Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask
'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just
was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I know
it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I didn't do
nothing but sit at the desk....

TIA!

I am type 2 diabetic - depending upon what else was in the salad
I may have added to whole grain rye crackers - sometime after 2 1/2 hours
later
I would can have a snack of something like the 2 rye crackers and a piece of
fruit.
we are all different and have different needs. if you don't know much about
nutrition
and would like help with your diet a registered dietitian can be a big help.
--
Tom
Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow

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