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  1. Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Second, hanging around with Lyle and Elzi puts me into a delta state
    (state of excitement and focus) because they have so many ideas and are so
    passionate about athletic training and science. So I had a great time in
    Calgary. I now have a ton of ideas (quite incidental to the conversations
    we had we were about other people training for the most part) to apply to
    my own training. So it is going to be a busy day as I apply a Westside
    type of template to olympic lifting focusing on one ME strength day, on
    speed day and two technique days per week.

    Third, speed skating is a cool sport. When you get the opportunity to
    watch rink side the power of the athletes blows you away. And we had the
    opportunity to get up-close and real personal. The meet director (a
    professor I know quite well) let Elzi and I into the inner track coaching
    area during a 5,000 meter world record skate. He commented we were in an
    elite group - he has never let a spectator in there before. He also
    explained some of the key elements of the skate and what the coaches were
    doing during the attempt. Too cool.

    So basically you see these huge thighs just driving into the ice in a
    controlled power output, but you better look quick because they flash by
    so quickly. The speed they move at is amazing. The precision of the
    technique is really, really freaky. I've never seen anything quite like
    it.

    Lyle was impressive, especially as he is so new to the sport. It was
    obvious he fit in well, both in terms of looking like he belonged as a
    skater and as an important member of his elite team. The coach actually
    came to the weight room to watch some technique work and criticism during
    Elzi's training session. It was obvious he was using Lyle's knowledge of
    training to benefit his team.

    The weight room at the olympic oval is neat. Quite a set-up. Upstairs they
    have a typical gym set-up with free weights and machines. Most students
    and a lot of the student athletes lift there.

    Downstairs is the hardcore area. Squat racks and platforms everywhere,
    with tons of bars and bumpers. All kinds of boxes, sleds for dragging,
    glute-ham-gastroc, reverse hyper, benches and other specialized equipment.
    It was an awesome gym in a relatively small space. And due to the
    separation of gyms only the very serious ventured there. Too cool.

    So it was a fun holiday. Elzi was having to hold herself back from joining
    the short-track skating team (they had a meet the day before I arrived).
    She thought that was a very cool sport - roller derby on ice. Lyle did
    four skates and exploded his PR's in all four. 14 countries were
    represented at the domestic meet, which is a hugely popular meet. I also
    got to chat a bit with the mmet director who is hugely passionate about
    sport and he introduced me to the strength and conditioning guru in
    Calgary. We traded email addresses and I'm going to pick his mind a
    little. Great contact. Met Lyle's mom, who is also very impressive in how
    quickly she grasped key aspects of speedskating. Did a mini-workout with
    Elzi who showed excellent technique in the hi-bar olympic squat, front
    squat and clean. I was a little banged up from my own wrestling, but still
    pumped up to clean within 10 kgs of my PB and get some technique
    suggestions from Lyle. He opined that maybe I wasn't completely roont by
    powerlifting after all and he was willing to take back about half of the
    bad things he had said about me.

    :^)

    And my wife and I filled the back of the van up with boxes from Ikea.

    :^(

    --
    Keith

  2. Wow!! Chris is my man!!

    "Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Second, hanging around with Lyle and Elzi puts me into a delta state
    (state of excitement and focus) because they have so many ideas and are so
    passionate about athletic training and science. So I had a great time in
    Calgary. I now have a ton of ideas (quite incidental to the conversations
    we had we were about other people training for the most part) to apply to
    my own training. So it is going to be a busy day as I apply a Westside
    type of template to olympic lifting focusing on one ME strength day, on
    speed day and two technique days per week.

    Third, speed skating is a cool sport. When you get the opportunity to
    watch rink side the power of the athletes blows you away. And we had the
    opportunity to get up-close and real personal. The meet director (a
    professor I know quite well) let Elzi and I into the inner track coaching
    area during a 5,000 meter world record skate. He commented we were in an
    elite group - he has never let a spectator in there before. He also
    explained some of the key elements of the skate and what the coaches were
    doing during the attempt. Too cool.

    So basically you see these huge thighs just driving into the ice in a
    controlled power output, but you better look quick because they flash by
    so quickly. The speed they move at is amazing. The precision of the
    technique is really, really freaky. I've never seen anything quite like
    it.

    Lyle was impressive, especially as he is so new to the sport. It was
    obvious he fit in well, both in terms of looking like he belonged as a
    skater and as an important member of his elite team. The coach actually
    came to the weight room to watch some technique work and criticism during
    Elzi's training session. It was obvious he was using Lyle's knowledge of
    training to benefit his team.

    The weight room at the olympic oval is neat. Quite a set-up. Upstairs they
    have a typical gym set-up with free weights and machines. Most students
    and a lot of the student athletes lift there.

    Downstairs is the hardcore area. Squat racks and platforms everywhere,
    with tons of bars and bumpers. All kinds of boxes, sleds for dragging,
    glute-ham-gastroc, reverse hyper, benches and other specialized equipment.
    It was an awesome gym in a relatively small space. And due to the
    separation of gyms only the very serious ventured there. Too cool.

    So it was a fun holiday. Elzi was having to hold herself back from joining
    the short-track skating team (they had a meet the day before I arrived).
    She thought that was a very cool sport - roller derby on ice. Lyle did
    four skates and exploded his PR's in all four. 14 countries were
    represented at the domestic meet, which is a hugely popular meet. I also
    got to chat a bit with the mmet director who is hugely passionate about
    sport and he introduced me to the strength and conditioning guru in
    Calgary. We traded email addresses and I'm going to pick his mind a
    little. Great contact. Met Lyle's mom, who is also very impressive in how
    quickly she grasped key aspects of speedskating. Did a mini-workout with
    Elzi who showed excellent technique in the hi-bar olympic squat, front
    squat and clean. I was a little banged up from my own wrestling, but still
    pumped up to clean within 10 kgs of my PB and get some technique
    suggestions from Lyle. He opined that maybe I wasn't completely roont by
    powerlifting after all and he was willing to take back about half of the
    bad things he had said about me.

    :^)

    And my wife and I filled the back of the van up with boxes from Ikea.

    :^(

    --
    Keith

  3. On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:10:01 -0600, [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Sin? Freudian slip? Were you married when he was conceived?

    Congratulations to him. Great job!

    Quoted message said:


    Second, hanging around with Lyle and Elzi puts me into a delta state
    (state of excitement and focus) because they have so many ideas and are so
    passionate about athletic training and science. So I had a great time in
    Calgary. I now have a ton of ideas (quite incidental to the conversations
    we had we were about other people training for the most part) to apply to
    my own training. So it is going to be a busy day as I apply a Westside
    type of template to olympic lifting focusing on one ME strength day, on
    speed day and two technique days per week.

    Third, speed skating is a cool sport. When you get the opportunity to
    watch rink side the power of the athletes blows you away. And we had the
    opportunity to get up-close and real personal. The meet director (a
    professor I know quite well) let Elzi and I into the inner track coaching
    area during a 5,000 meter world record skate. He commented we were in an
    elite group - he has never let a spectator in there before. He also
    explained some of the key elements of the skate and what the coaches were
    doing during the attempt. Too cool.

    So basically you see these huge thighs just driving into the ice in a
    controlled power output, but you better look quick because they flash by
    so quickly. The speed they move at is amazing. The precision of the
    technique is really, really freaky. I've never seen anything quite like
    it.

    Lyle was impressive, especially as he is so new to the sport. It was
    obvious he fit in well, both in terms of looking like he belonged as a
    skater and as an important member of his elite team. The coach actually
    came to the weight room to watch some technique work and criticism during
    Elzi's training session. It was obvious he was using Lyle's knowledge of
    training to benefit his team.

    The weight room at the olympic oval is neat. Quite a set-up. Upstairs they
    have a typical gym set-up with free weights and machines. Most students
    and a lot of the student athletes lift there.

    Downstairs is the hardcore area. Squat racks and platforms everywhere,
    with tons of bars and bumpers. All kinds of boxes, sleds for dragging,
    glute-ham-gastroc, reverse hyper, benches and other specialized equipment.
    It was an awesome gym in a relatively small space. And due to the
    separation of gyms only the very serious ventured there. Too cool.

    So it was a fun holiday. Elzi was having to hold herself back from joining
    the short-track skating team (they had a meet the day before I arrived).
    She thought that was a very cool sport - roller derby on ice. Lyle did
    four skates and exploded his PR's in all four. 14 countries were
    represented at the domestic meet, which is a hugely popular meet. I also
    got to chat a bit with the mmet director who is hugely passionate about
    sport and he introduced me to the strength and conditioning guru in
    Calgary. We traded email addresses and I'm going to pick his mind a
    little. Great contact. Met Lyle's mom, who is also very impressive in how
    quickly she grasped key aspects of speedskating. Did a mini-workout with
    Elzi who showed excellent technique in the hi-bar olympic squat, front
    squat and clean. I was a little banged up from my own wrestling, but still
    pumped up to clean within 10 kgs of my PB and get some technique
    suggestions from Lyle. He opined that maybe I wasn't completely roont by
    powerlifting after all and he was willing to take back about half of the
    bad things he had said about me.

    :^)

    And my wife and I filled the back of the van up with boxes from Ikea.

    :^(

    Sounds like a fun trip. Congrats to Lyle too!

  4. (Hobbes) said:

    Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Congratulations to Chris! Is there a national competition?
    --

    JMW
    http://www.rustyiron.net

  5. "Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Second, hanging around with Lyle and Elzi puts me into a delta state
    (state of excitement and focus) because they have so many ideas and are so
    passionate about athletic training and science. So I had a great time in
    Calgary. I now have a ton of ideas (quite incidental to the conversations
    we had we were about other people training for the most part) to apply to
    my own training. So it is going to be a busy day as I apply a Westside
    type of template to olympic lifting focusing on one ME strength day, on
    speed day and two technique days per week.

    Third, speed skating is a cool sport. When you get the opportunity to
    watch rink side the power of the athletes blows you away. And we had the
    opportunity to get up-close and real personal. The meet director (a
    professor I know quite well) let Elzi and I into the inner track coaching
    area during a 5,000 meter world record skate. He commented we were in an
    elite group - he has never let a spectator in there before. He also
    explained some of the key elements of the skate and what the coaches were
    doing during the attempt. Too cool.

    So basically you see these huge thighs just driving into the ice in a
    controlled power output, but you better look quick because they flash by
    so quickly. The speed they move at is amazing. The precision of the
    technique is really, really freaky. I've never seen anything quite like
    it.

    Lyle was impressive, especially as he is so new to the sport. It was
    obvious he fit in well, both in terms of looking like he belonged as a
    skater and as an important member of his elite team. The coach actually
    came to the weight room to watch some technique work and criticism during
    Elzi's training session. It was obvious he was using Lyle's knowledge of
    training to benefit his team.

    The weight room at the olympic oval is neat. Quite a set-up. Upstairs they
    have a typical gym set-up with free weights and machines. Most students
    and a lot of the student athletes lift there.

    Downstairs is the hardcore area. Squat racks and platforms everywhere,
    with tons of bars and bumpers. All kinds of boxes, sleds for dragging,
    glute-ham-gastroc, reverse hyper, benches and other specialized equipment.
    It was an awesome gym in a relatively small space. And due to the
    separation of gyms only the very serious ventured there. Too cool.

    So it was a fun holiday. Elzi was having to hold herself back from joining
    the short-track skating team (they had a meet the day before I arrived).
    She thought that was a very cool sport - roller derby on ice. Lyle did
    four skates and exploded his PR's in all four. 14 countries were
    represented at the domestic meet, which is a hugely popular meet. I also
    got to chat a bit with the mmet director who is hugely passionate about
    sport and he introduced me to the strength and conditioning guru in
    Calgary. We traded email addresses and I'm going to pick his mind a
    little. Great contact. Met Lyle's mom, who is also very impressive in how
    quickly she grasped key aspects of speedskating. Did a mini-workout with
    Elzi who showed excellent technique in the hi-bar olympic squat, front
    squat and clean. I was a little banged up from my own wrestling, but still
    pumped up to clean within 10 kgs of my PB and get some technique
    suggestions from Lyle. He opined that maybe I wasn't completely roont by
    powerlifting after all and he was willing to take back about half of the
    bad things he had said about me.

    :^)

    And my wife and I filled the back of the van up with boxes from Ikea.

    :^(

    --
    Keith

    How fast do olympic speed skaters get up to?

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, JMW

    Quoted message said:
    (Hobbes) said:

    Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Congratulations to Chris! Is there a national competition?

    Not for high schools, but for juvenile wrestlers. He will be going. end of
    the month in St. Johns, Newfieland.

    I'm a little jealous. Never been to the maritimes and I'd love to go, but
    finances and school dictate otherwise.

    --
    Keith

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, "Kevin J. Coolidge"

    Quoted message said:

    "Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Second, hanging around with Lyle and Elzi puts me into a delta state
    (state of excitement and focus) because they have so many ideas and are so
    passionate about athletic training and science. So I had a great time in
    Calgary. I now have a ton of ideas (quite incidental to the conversations
    we had we were about other people training for the most part) to apply to
    my own training. So it is going to be a busy day as I apply a Westside
    type of template to olympic lifting focusing on one ME strength day, on
    speed day and two technique days per week.

    Third, speed skating is a cool sport. When you get the opportunity to
    watch rink side the power of the athletes blows you away. And we had the
    opportunity to get up-close and real personal. The meet director (a
    professor I know quite well) let Elzi and I into the inner track coaching
    area during a 5,000 meter world record skate. He commented we were in an
    elite group - he has never let a spectator in there before. He also
    explained some of the key elements of the skate and what the coaches were
    doing during the attempt. Too cool.

    So basically you see these huge thighs just driving into the ice in a
    controlled power output, but you better look quick because they flash by
    so quickly. The speed they move at is amazing. The precision of the
    technique is really, really freaky. I've never seen anything quite like
    it.

    Lyle was impressive, especially as he is so new to the sport. It was
    obvious he fit in well, both in terms of looking like he belonged as a
    skater and as an important member of his elite team. The coach actually
    came to the weight room to watch some technique work and criticism during
    Elzi's training session. It was obvious he was using Lyle's knowledge of
    training to benefit his team.

    The weight room at the olympic oval is neat. Quite a set-up. Upstairs they
    have a typical gym set-up with free weights and machines. Most students
    and a lot of the student athletes lift there.

    Downstairs is the hardcore area. Squat racks and platforms everywhere,
    with tons of bars and bumpers. All kinds of boxes, sleds for dragging,
    glute-ham-gastroc, reverse hyper, benches and other specialized equipment.
    It was an awesome gym in a relatively small space. And due to the
    separation of gyms only the very serious ventured there. Too cool.

    So it was a fun holiday. Elzi was having to hold herself back from joining
    the short-track skating team (they had a meet the day before I arrived).
    She thought that was a very cool sport - roller derby on ice. Lyle did
    four skates and exploded his PR's in all four. 14 countries were
    represented at the domestic meet, which is a hugely popular meet. I also
    got to chat a bit with the mmet director who is hugely passionate about
    sport and he introduced me to the strength and conditioning guru in
    Calgary. We traded email addresses and I'm going to pick his mind a
    little. Great contact. Met Lyle's mom, who is also very impressive in how
    quickly she grasped key aspects of speedskating. Did a mini-workout with
    Elzi who showed excellent technique in the hi-bar olympic squat, front
    squat and clean. I was a little banged up from my own wrestling, but still
    pumped up to clean within 10 kgs of my PB and get some technique
    suggestions from Lyle. He opined that maybe I wasn't completely roont by
    powerlifting after all and he was willing to take back about half of the
    bad things he had said about me.

    :^)

    And my wife and I filled the back of the van up with boxes from Ikea.

    :^(

    --
    Keith

    How fast do olympic speed skaters get up to?

    Well. I believe the 1500 was done at about 1:45 or so.

    So if you extrapolate that time they average 51.5 km/hr or 32.4 mph.

    --
    Keith

  8. [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote in news:khobman-1303050910010001@
    192.168.1.102:

    Quoted message said:

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    WOOT!

    And congratulations. That's great.

    Hugh

    --
    Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

  9. (Hobbes) said:
    JMW said:
    (Hobbes) said:

    Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    provincials.

    Couple of observations for y'all.

    First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Congratulations to Chris! Is there a national competition?

    Not for high schools, but for juvenile wrestlers. He will be going. end of
    the month in St. Johns, Newfieland.

    I'm a little jealous. Never been to the maritimes and I'd love to go, but
    finances and school dictate otherwise.

    I'm sure he would love to have dad there watching. Of course, at his
    age, he might also crave a little independence away from home.
    --

    JMW
    http://www.rustyiron.net

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, JMW

    Quoted message said:
    (Hobbes) said:
    JMW said:

    [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote:

    >Just back from a whirlwind 'mini-vacation' which includes two days in
    >Calgary watching Lyle M speedskate while visiting with Lyle and Elzi and
    >then a 8 hour drive (2:30 in the morning start) to watch my son wrestle at
    >provincials.
    >
    >Couple of observations for y'all.
    >
    >First, my sin Chris won provincials. He did have a point scored on him in
    >the tournament, but as usual he was no flash - just win, baby. He has
    >worked hard for this and pops is proud, as always.

    Congratulations to Chris! Is there a national competition?

    Not for high schools, but for juvenile wrestlers. He will be going. end of
    the month in St. Johns, Newfieland.

    I'm a little jealous. Never been to the maritimes and I'd love to go, but
    finances and school dictate otherwise.

    I'm sure he would love to have dad there watching. Of course, at his
    age, he might also crave a little independence away from home.

    Yup to both.

    --
    Keith


  11. Quoted message said:


    Not for high schools, but for juvenile wrestlers. He will be going.


    end of

    Quoted message said:

    the month in St. Johns, Newfieland.

    I'm a little jealous. Never been to the maritimes and I'd love to go,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    finances and school dictate otherwise.

    Tsk...tsk...tsk...I hate to have to give you a geography lesson
    BUT...Newfoundland is not part of the Martimes. The maritimes are NB,
    NS and PEI. Nfld is included when speaking of the Altlantic
    provinces...likely due to Nfld not joining up until the late 40's...if
    he's too young to drink there's not much else going on in St.
    John's...as IMO, it's the people rather than the place tha makes St.
    John's special.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    gman99 said:
    Quoted message said:


    Not for high schools, but for juvenile wrestlers. He will be going.


    end of

    Quoted message said:

    the month in St. Johns, Newfieland.

    I'm a little jealous. Never been to the maritimes and I'd love to go,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    finances and school dictate otherwise.

    Tsk...tsk...tsk...I hate to have to give you a geography lesson
    BUT...Newfoundland is not part of the Martimes. The maritimes are NB,
    NS and PEI. Nfld is included when speaking of the Altlantic
    provinces...likely due to Nfld not joining up until the late 40's...if
    he's too young to drink there's not much else going on in St.
    John's...as IMO, it's the people rather than the place tha makes St.
    John's special.

    Interesting geographical differences.

    I had a friend who came from Ontario and I called him a damn eastoner. To
    him he was from central Canada and you guys are eastern Canada.

    Out west there is no distinction, nor any in the texts I recall. You're
    all a bunch of inbred hillbillies.

    :^o

    HTH.

  13. Quoted message said:


    Interesting geographical differences.

    I had a friend who came from Ontario and I called him a damn


    eastoner. To

    Quoted message said:

    him he was from central Canada and you guys are eastern Canada.

    I get a kick outta that too, I'm from down east...T'ronna.
    WHAT...Toronto's not east of anything except the prairies and the
    rockies. I consider Manitoba, Northern Ontario as middle ground.
    Saskatchewan / Alberta as out west and BC as the Pacific. I'm in the
    maritimes or DOWN EAST...I try not to talk about Toronto...Montreal is
    a very nice city...lot's of character. I've spent some time in every
    province except..well..Saskatchewan. Never had the occasion to drop in.
    Most of my travelling was the result of army cadets many moons
    ago...even with regular military I didn't go there.

    Quoted message said:

    Out west there is no distinction, nor any in the texts I recall.


    You're

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    all a bunch of inbred hillbillies.

    🙂

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, "gman99"

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    Interesting geographical differences.

    I had a friend who came from Ontario and I called him a damn


    eastoner. To

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    him he was from central Canada and you guys are eastern Canada.

    I get a kick outta that too, I'm from down east...T'ronna.
    WHAT...Toronto's not east of anything except the prairies and the
    rockies. I consider Manitoba, Northern Ontario as middle ground.
    Saskatchewan / Alberta as out west and BC as the Pacific. I'm in the
    maritimes or DOWN EAST...I try not to talk about Toronto...Montreal is
    a very nice city...lot's of character. I've spent some time in every
    province except..well..Saskatchewan. Never had the occasion to drop in.
    Most of my travelling was the result of army cadets many moons
    ago...even with regular military I didn't go there.

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    Out west there is no distinction, nor any in the texts I recall.


    You're

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    all a bunch of inbred hillbillies.

    🙂

    I've heard that 'Down East' thing a time or two. I gotta agree about Tronna.

    I liked Quebec City too, just because of the history. But the locals were
    pretty rude about people who couldn't speak the lingo. I've heard the same
    about Montreal - everyone seems to like to it. Never been there, either.
    But it's the Maritimes I want to get to - even more so than the Atlantic
    provinces.


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    I liked Quebec City too, just because of the history. But the locals


    were

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    pretty rude about people who couldn't speak the lingo. I've heard the


    same

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    about Montreal - everyone seems to like to it. Never been there,


    either.

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    But it's the Maritimes I want to get to - even more so than the


    Atlantic

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    provinces.

    I probably take it for granted but there are some very nice places to
    visit...of course Halifax is at the top of the list 🙂

    If you ever make it down here take the brick off the gas pedal and take
    a drive around the cabot trail..it's everything it's cracked up to be
    !! The south shore of NS also has some very scenic communities...skip
    peggy's cove though...overblown tourist trap with a lighthouse.

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    gman99 said:
    Quoted message said:


    I liked Quebec City too, just because of the history. But the locals


    were

    Quoted message said:

    pretty rude about people who couldn't speak the lingo. I've heard the


    same

    Quoted message said:

    about Montreal - everyone seems to like to it. Never been there,


    either.

    Quoted message said:

    But it's the Maritimes I want to get to - even more so than the


    Atlantic

    Quoted message said:

    provinces.

    I probably take it for granted but there are some very nice places to
    visit...of course Halifax is at the top of the list 🙂

    If you ever make it down here take the brick off the gas pedal and take
    a drive around the cabot trail..it's everything it's cracked up to be
    !! The south shore of NS also has some very scenic communities...skip
    peggy's cove though...overblown tourist trap with a lighthouse.

    I've got some powerlifting friends in NS. So yeah - I'd probably take my
    motorcycle and the Cabot trail would be automatic.

    Plus I have to get down to the south side anyhow.


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    How fast do olympic speed skaters get up to?

    Depends entirely on the length of the race as it does with regular
    track...the shorter the race the faster the skate...to a certain point.
    It takes a little longer to get to full speed skating than it does
    running.


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    I've got some powerlifting friends in NS. So yeah - I'd probably take


    my

    Quoted message said:

    motorcycle and the Cabot trail would be automatic.

    Plus I have to get down to the south side anyhow.

    If you're biking it and don;t mind taking your time there are some
    older highways that hug the coast a lot of the way down towards
    Lunenburg / Bridgewater....very nice...I actually prefer a nice
    overcast day with a slight hint of fog for full effect.

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