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New anti low carb book published.

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  1. CARBOPHOBIA: THE SCARY TRUTH BEHIND AMERICA'S LOW CARB CRAZE BY DR.
    MICHAEL GREGER M.D. isbn 1-59056-086-8

    Some people say the author is a shill for animal rights activists.

    I don't know about that one or another, but the book has 57 pages of
    citations to back up his claims and a 39 page section where the Atkins
    Corporations gets to resond to him ( and his rebuttals ).

  2. Have you read it?

    Does the infamous Dr. Greger make any good points?

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    CARBOPHOBIA: THE SCARY TRUTH BEHIND AMERICA'S LOW CARB CRAZE BY DR.
    MICHAEL GREGER M.D. isbn 1-59056-086-8

    Some people say the author is a shill for animal rights activists.

    I don't know about that one or another, but the book has 57 pages of
    citations to back up his claims and a 39 page section where the Atkins
    Corporations gets to resond to him ( and his rebuttals ).

  3. Quoted message said:

    CARBOPHOBIA: THE SCARY TRUTH BEHIND AMERICA'S LOW CARB CRAZE BY DR.
    MICHAEL GREGER M.D. isbn 1-59056-086-8

    Some people say the author is a shill for animal rights activists.

    According to Publishers Weekly (see Amazon.com) he is a vegetarian nutrition
    specialist. haha.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't know about that one or another, but the book has 57 pages of
    citations to back up his claims and a 39 page section where the Atkins
    Corporations gets to resond to him ( and his rebuttals ).

    Obviously, he's gone back and collected all of the old BS science articles
    that were trying to prove that LF is the true way. There's plenty of that
    stuff around.

  4. I dont understand... If a low carb diet doesn't work, then howcum I lost 53
    pounds and haven't gained them back in 19 months? And my doctor says I'm
    extremely healthy (he took me off my BP meds and cut my Zocor from 40 mg to
    10)..... I guess he's a quack and my scale is wrong...

    6'1"/236/183/183

    Roger Zoul said:
    Quoted message said:

    CARBOPHOBIA: THE SCARY TRUTH BEHIND AMERICA'S LOW CARB CRAZE BY DR.
    MICHAEL GREGER M.D. isbn 1-59056-086-8

    Some people say the author is a shill for animal rights activists.

    According to Publishers Weekly (see Amazon.com) he is a vegetarian
    nutrition specialist. haha.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't know about that one or another, but the book has 57 pages of
    citations to back up his claims and a 39 page section where the
    Atkins Corporations gets to resond to him ( and his rebuttals ).

    Obviously, he's gone back and collected all of the old BS science
    articles that were trying to prove that LF is the true way. There's
    plenty of that stuff around.

  5. Roger Zoul said:
    Quoted message said:

    CARBOPHOBIA: THE SCARY TRUTH BEHIND AMERICA'S LOW CARB CRAZE BY DR.
    MICHAEL GREGER M.D. isbn 1-59056-086-8

    Some people say the author is a shill for animal rights activists.

    According to Publishers Weekly (see Amazon.com) he is a vegetarian nutrition
    specialist. haha.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know about that one or another, but the book has 57 pages of
    citations to back up his claims and a 39 page section where the Atkins
    Corporations gets to resond to him ( and his rebuttals ).

    Obviously, he's gone back and collected all of the old BS science articles
    that were trying to prove that LF is the true way. There's plenty of that
    stuff around.

    ...........there sure is.

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  6. Yes, he is a proponent of a strict vegetarian diet - no animal foods at all.
    He has a website, I've read some of his stuff. It looks more or less
    credible except that what he may not understand or care about is that all
    those studies proving animal food, dairy, fat, etc. bad are based on either
    clinical studies that don't couple high fat and/or animal protein with a
    reduced carbohydrate diet. Likewise, population studies and other
    epidemiological-type data doesn't effectively address the type of reduced
    carb diets we mostly eat. That allows people like Greger to point to the
    association between animal fat and, say, breast cancer, or heart disease,
    and say... "Look, eating animal fat is associated with [name the disease].
    What he *doesn't* say is that you can also usually find other factors, such
    as sugar intake, high glycemic carb intake, that are *just* as closely
    associated with those diseases.

    There is no question that eating a goodly amount of green and highly colored
    vegetables is _very good_ for you, no matter what else you eat. There are
    healthy vegetarian diets and very unhealthy vegetarian diets. Likewise, some
    of us have pretty darn healthy reduced carb diets, others don't. Authors
    like Greger don't make that clear, because they are pushing their own
    agenda. They will simply ignore and fail to report any study that does not
    agree with their agenda, and will usually ignore the deficiencies of those
    studies that do serve their purpose.

    HG

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    Quoted message said:

    CARBOPHOBIA: THE SCARY TRUTH BEHIND AMERICA'S LOW CARB CRAZE BY DR.
    MICHAEL GREGER M.D. isbn 1-59056-086-8

    Some people say the author is a shill for animal rights activists.

    According to Publishers Weekly (see Amazon.com) he is a vegetarian


    nutrition

    Quoted message said:

    specialist. haha.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't know about that one or another, but the book has 57 pages of
    citations to back up his claims and a 39 page section where the Atkins
    Corporations gets to resond to him ( and his rebuttals ).

    Obviously, he's gone back and collected all of the old BS science articles
    that were trying to prove that LF is the true way. There's plenty of that
    stuff around.

  7. Quoted message said:

    I dont understand... If a low carb diet doesn't work, then howcum I lost 53
    pounds and haven't gained them back in 19 months? And my doctor says I'm
    extremely healthy (he took me off my BP meds and cut my Zocor from 40 mg to
    10)..... I guess he's a quack and my scale is wrong...

    That's all water weight :-)

  8. heh..although, I did find myself in the bathroom a lot..

    greg said:
    Quoted message said:

    I dont understand... If a low carb diet doesn't work, then howcum I
    lost 53 pounds and haven't gained them back in 19 months? And my
    doctor says I'm extremely healthy (he took me off my BP meds and cut
    my Zocor from 40 mg to 10)..... I guess he's a quack and my scale is
    wrong...

    That's all water weight :-)

  9. In message <[email hidden]>, greg <[email hidden]>
    writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I dont understand... If a low carb diet doesn't work, then howcum I
    lost 53 pounds and haven't gained them back in 19 months? And my
    doctor says I'm extremely healthy (he took me off my BP meds and cut
    my Zocor from 40 mg to 10)..... I guess he's a quack and my scale is
    wrong...

    That's all water weight :-)

    And it's only the duct tape holding your kidneys in.
    --
    Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

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