I was looking over their 3rd party payment system, and was rather bothered that they want my date of birth. None of their business, I thought; identity theft is an issue, so I really don't want to give out information they don't actually need to process a transaction
-- to respond (OT only), change "spamless.invalid" to "optonline.net"
I was looking over their 3rd party payment system, and was rather bothered that they want my date of birth. None of their business, I thought; identity theft is an issue, so I really don't want to give out information they don't actually need to process a transaction
I registered with no problems a month or 2 ago. It showed up as a $13.55 charge on my VISA card.
I was looking over their 3rd party payment system, and was rather bothered that they want my date of birth. None of their business, I thought; identity theft is an issue, so I really don't want to give out information they don't actually need to process a transaction
-- to respond (OT only), change "spamless.invalid" to "optonline.net"
Same as zvxcbob - I registered and paid with no problems. I like them - they don't carry the less desireable groups, but I'm not interested in them. They are fast, reliable and complete. Enough said. I'm tired of chasing free news servers. I've found a new newsgroup home. And if they F*** up my Visa card, I'll get it fixed as I have in the past. Yes, identity theft is a problem and I deal with it on a regular basis in my employment. This is a miniscule risk in my opinion. And as far as the birthdate - LIE, like eveyone else does, and move on, man. And use an alternate credit card with a $500 limit like I did, and what I use for almost ALL internet transactions. YES, you can request this - I promise. If nothing else, it will make you sleep better and numb your paranoia. If it alll falls apart you're only liable for $500. If this is too much, then you probably should stay away from internet purchases altogether.
"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I was looking over their 3rd party payment system, and was rather bothered that they want my date of birth. None of their business, I thought; identity theft is an issue, so I really don't want to give out information they don't actually need to process a transaction
It's a reputable company, with a world-wide presence. The transaction didn't tip my risk threshold, and I'm mildly paranoid about releasing information. We're not talking about a company like PayPal, which has incredibly poor business practices.
If you don't want to use them to pay for news.individual.net, I seem to recall there's a pay-by-check option ... -j
If you don't want to use them to pay for news.individual.net, I seem to recall there's a pay-by-check option ... -j
My ISP cancelled rec.travel.caribbean, then a week later they cancelled rec.nude. I subscribed to individual.net so I could get all of my newsgroups. I paid through my checking account.
If you don't want to use them to pay for news.individual.net, I seem to recall there's a pay-by-check option ... -j
My ISP cancelled rec.travel.caribbean, then a week later they cancelled rec.nude. I subscribed to individual.net so I could get all of my newsgroups. I paid through my checking account.
Becca
The one thing I DON'T like about nin is that it's group list is pretty limited. I can't even get to some fairly high profile Micro$oft groups.
"AlleyGator" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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The one thing I DON'T like about nin is that it's group list is pretty limited. I can't even get to some fairly high profile Micro$oft groups.
Well, they don't do binaries and won't do alt.sex.* groups; I understand, however, that if you write and ask them to add a group, they'll do so. Have you tried?
I've been meaning to ask them to add alt.cookies.yum.yum.yum. -j
But you're missing the point. My real concern is not fraudulent use of my credit card; it's fraudulent use of my identity, which is far, far more serious and far, far more difficult to fix. I don't see any need to give them my date of birth in order to make a 10 euro purchase.
I probably DID miss the point in my response, Scott<G> - but not in my own brain, which you wouldn't want to read if you could. I'm really sorry to hear abt the ID theft - that can become a nightmare, I am sure. The point I AM making is - I lied about my BD. Outright lied, and it all worked out anyway. No, they DON'T need that info, obviously, or the transaction wouldn't have worked. Lie - simple as that.
Scott <[email hidden]> wrote: BTW, if it makes you feel better, I only lied a little. They still have me down to the correct month and year. Try it that way if you feel uncomfortable with the lie.
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I was looking over their 3rd party payment system, and was rather bothered that they want my date of birth. None of their business, I thought; identity theft is an issue, so I really don't want to give out information they don't actually need to process a transaction
It's a reputable company, with a world-wide presence. The transaction didn't tip my risk threshold, and I'm mildly paranoid about releasing information. We're not talking about a company like PayPal, which has incredibly poor business practices.
If you don't want to use them to pay for news.individual.net, I seem to recall there's a pay-by-check option ...
The e-mail I recently received from them says they will now accept payment by bank transfer -- but you have to pay *all* the fees of the transaction or they won't accept the payment.
Also, someone mentioned low limit credit cards as a means of protection, but that may give a false sense of security. I don't know about you Yanks, but here in Oz it seems the credit limit is a notional thing which can be exceeded at a cost to the user! (Bit like an overdraft where there's a penalty rate for going over your limit.)