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  1. It would be nice spending a few weeks this summer cokering around in
    Britain. Can one bring the wheel on trains without paying extra?

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  2. Why use the train at all? 😉

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  3. Thanks!

    Any other tip for a train/coker tour in the UK? Which part would be
    particulary nice to visit on one wheel in June? I walked The
    Pembrokeshire Coast Path in 1997 and remember I liked Wales and the
    Welsh ...

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  4. goldenchicken said:

    *Thanks!

    Any other tip for a train/coker tour in the UK? Which part would be
    particulary nice to visit on one wheel in June? I walked The
    Pembrokeshire Coast Path in 1997 and remember I liked Wales and the
    Welsh ... *

    Trains are almost always cool with unicycles. Just try and make sure
    they don't think of it as a bike. If you have trouble, say that it's a
    folding bike and take off the seat to make them happy.

    *Never* ask someone if it's okay , just walk onto the train like you
    know what you're doing and put it with the other luggage. I've taken
    unicycles all over the country like this.

    The tube (underground) in London is sometimes funny about cokers, again
    best not to ask anything, just bung it over your shoulder and walk
    through the barriers.

    Wales is nice if you're not English. If you're English everyone hates
    you in a lot of places, it isn't very friendly at all.

    A few places I've liked -

    London - this is *the* place to coker, no contest, assuming you're happy
    with riding with traffic. Unicycling is a great way to see the sights.

    Scotland - Parts of the Highlands are nice, I liked riding round near
    Aviemore, you'd have to be a real riding up hills person. Totally
    amazing scenery.

    Peak District - lovely scenery, classic hill climbs and descents,
    friendly people, loads of places to stay.

    South Coast - I've cycle toured round the south coast (from Hastings to
    Bognor Regis) and it was lovely, it's not incredible scenery, it's just
    a bunch of nice places and good riding in between. It'd be possible to
    combine this with the New Forest:

    The New Forest - this is lovely forest tracks, all easy riding, if
    you're a flat riding type person and don't like major roads it'd be a
    good place. Easy to get to with a coker (trains from London Waterloo to
    Brockenhurst). There are a bunch of places to stay.

    Joe

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  5. joemarshall said:

    *Wales is nice if you're not English. If you're English everyone hates
    you in a lot of places, it isn't very friendly at all.
    *

    This surely needs some defence. I'm English (effectively, for these
    purposes) and I've had no trouble or animmosity whatsoever. I'm at uni
    in Wales (Sweet home Aberystwyth) and really quite like the odd bit of
    Welshness. Certainly being in Wales doesn't affect the riding, which is
    rather fantastic. There are plenty of singletrack centers. Phil will
    now almost jump in his car at the mere muttering of 'Nant-yn-Arian', and
    then there's Coed-y-Brenin, not to mention Snowdon, plus whatever
    delights there are in South Wales that I'm oblivious to...

    Though I've not seen Scottish mountains for far too long, I'm heading
    steadily in the direction of thinking Wales to be one of the most
    beautiful places ever. Come to Wales, it's *the* place to Muni 🙂

    Sam (who's not being paid to say any of this)

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  6. I'd pretty much concur with Sam (redwelly) - on much of what he says
    regarding Wales; the riding is fantastic, the scenery may not be the
    very top Britain has to offer - Scottish Highlands and Islands comes top
    (not just geographically) - but Snowdonia a close joint second with
    Cumbria. and less remote to the majority of the UK population.

    Some elements of the Welsh people can be a bit antagonistic towards the
    English, particularly when they are clashing at Twickenham or the
    Millenium Stadium, but this is also true of any of the subjugated celtic
    nations; there is a collective national memory and resentment towards
    the more powerful partner that goes back over 1000 years. Britain's
    peoples are as varied as it's landscapes; to borrow a phrase from
    another longstanding mutual dis-respect, "vive la diference!".

    Quoted message said:

    London - this is *the* place to coker, no contest, assuming you're
    happy with riding with traffic. Unicycling is a great way to see the
    sights.

    Hmmm, if you like riding in heavy traffic and choking on the fumes, then
    I guess London is as okay as any other city. Head for the hills.

    Back on-thread:

    There shouldn't be any problems with taking your Coker onto trains, so
    long as it isn't a crowded commuter train during rush-hour. Long
    distance coaches may be another option to consider, but I've never tried
    it myself - anyone else any experience here ?

    Enjoy your trip goldenchicken - there are Coker riders in most parts of
    the UK who would be more than happy to meet up and ride with you. We
    are a friendly bunch, particularly the English 😉

    By the way redwelly - great avatar, "top" unicyclist in Wales !!

    Chris

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  7. munidobs said:

    *I'd pretty much concur with Sam (redwelly) - on much of what he says
    regarding Wales; the riding is fantastic, the scenery may not be the
    very top Britain has to offer - Scottish Highlands and Islands comes
    top (not just geographically) - but Snowdonia a close joint second
    with Cumbria. and less remote to the majority of the UK population.

    There shouldn't be any problems with taking your Coker onto trains, so
    long as it isn't a crowded commuter train during rush-hour. Long
    distance coaches may be another option to consider, but I've never
    tried it myself - anyone else any experience here ?
    *

    National Express Coaches sometimes randomly refuse to take normal
    unicycles if they're not in bags. I know a couple of people got to BUC
    last year by National Express OK, but I've known other people to not get
    let on. I don't know what they'd be like about a coker.

    I still think London is a great place to coker. If you don't like big
    roads, you can see most of the sights without riding on any roads.

    My experience of Wales is that it's okay in a group, but going there as
    an English person on your own you really have to be careful about which
    pubs you go into when you're out in the countryside if you don't want
    any hassle. There is great riding though.

    The really cool thing about the UK is that there's loads of variety in a
    relatively small area, if you've got a few weeks of coker riding, you
    could ride in so many different types of area, even without taking
    trains.

    Joe

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  8. joemarshall said:

    * you really have to be careful about which pubs you go into when
    you're out in the countryside if you don't want any hassle.*

    So what exactly do you do to offend the welsh so much?

    wander in there waving the st georges flag and shouting?

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  9. theamazingmolio said:

    *So what exactly do you do to offend the welsh so much?

    wander in there waving the st georges flag and shouting? *

    I'd guess not speak welsh, judging from the way people start talking
    Welsh instead of English when English people come in.

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  10. munidobs said:

    Long distance coaches may be another option to consider, but I've
    never tried it myself - anyone else any experience here ?
    [/B]

    I've used National Express 2 or 3 times with a uni.

    Like Joe says with trains, don't ring up and ask anyone if it's OK; I
    would think they'd either say 'no' or refer it to a supervisor.

    The unis I've taken on are a 24x3 and a 29-er (on seperate occasions),
    and I've always assumed that refusal was possible, so I take the
    approach of separating the wheel from the frame, and storing the
    frame/seat in my rucksack.

    The reasoning being that I don't see how anyone could have a problem
    with putting a wheel on the coach.

    I also take off the pedals to make it less likely to get damaged or
    caught on other peoples luggage.

    Thing to be aware of with National Express is that the drivers love to
    get all your stuff stored, then leave the boots gaping open and wander
    off. So you either need to get a seat on the side where you can keep an
    eye on things, or stay off the coach till the last minute to keep an eye
    on things.

    I'd feel fairly confident that a 24/26/29" wheel will be totally fine;
    not sure about a Coker though.

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  11. redwelly said:

    *There are plenty of singletrack centers. Phil will now almost jump in
    his car at the mere muttering of 'Nant-yn-Arian', and then there's
    Coed-y-Brenin, not to mention Snowdon, plus whatever delights there
    are in South Wales that I'm oblivious to...*

    <jumps in car> Sorry, what were we talking about?

    Wales contains some excellent riding in the form of the singletrack
    centres. There's nothing like riding trails made just for the purpose,
    especially when they're in fantastic locations such as Nant-y-Arian.

    In the south Afan has four excellent trails and Cwmcarn has one. Cwmcarn
    is very handy for nipping across the border from civilization, erm,
    England.

    Take your pick: www.mbwales.com

    The problem with Wales is that it takes blummin' ages to get anywhere.
    Admittedly half of this is probably the English "Wales is just that
    little blob tacked on the side, it's not very big" stereotype, but the
    rest is that the roads are small and windy and the trains generally take
    the very-extended-scenic-route. Enjoyable but not if you're in a
    hurry.

    Phil

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  12. I've taken my coker on trains, its OK apart from in the rush hour in
    cities when its not OK. On any train with space for bikes I put the
    coker there. If there is no dedicated bike space I try and keep it as
    out of the way as I can.
    Nowadays I carry a small cable lock with me wrapped around the seatpost
    so I can chain the uni up to a rail or a bike rack while I go and do
    stuff like buying tickets / food / touristy sight seeing.

    Sarah

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