Lower back muscle spasm

gary said:

Hi
been running & hurt back, doc says it's a muscle spasm, but not disk, as he
checked for that!, sitting for long time agrevates this & waking feeling
stiff with lightening strikes in back!
Anyone had this & advice as to how they sorted it!
Cheers
Gaz

Seems unlikely you hurt your back from running,
unless you're running alignment is poor in which
case you need corrective shoes or orthotics. Poor
alignment will cause lower back problems.

As you note sitting is bad for the lower back
and is another potential cause. Best remedy in
fact may be to get out and take long walks daily,
pain or no pain, especially if sitting around isn't
helping. Use of a heating pad to warm the area is
often helpful, but don't stretch. If not too painful
try mixing in some light jogging (i.e., alternate
walking and light jogging.) I've cured disc/spasm
incidents rapidly this way.

When better, have your alignment checked and
strengthen your lower back by doing crunches
(support the lumbar with a rolled up towel,
bend one knee, keep the other straight, don't
crunch till you drop; this will lessen lower
back stress.)

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Seems unlikely you hurt your back from running,

unless you're running alignment is poor in which
case you need corrective shoes or orthotics. Poor
alignment will cause lower back problems.>

Ok I'll be serious for a minute. If you take this idiots advice, you
will very likely end up PERMANENTLY crippled! Orthotics and corrective
shoes DO NOT correct, nor compensate for misalignment of the spine. If
that is the problem (your MD is not qualified to check for disk
troubles) then you need a chiropractor, not an MD. I have NEVER heard
of any MD anywhere, straightening out spinal misalignment. It simply is
not their field of expertise. Some have sucessfully treated these
problems, but only by luck, chance, or it just went away in it's own
sweet time, and the MD took credit.
Find a good chiropractor.

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Seems unlikely you hurt your back from running,

unless you're running alignment is poor in which
case you need corrective shoes or orthotics. Poor
alignment will cause lower back problems.>

There is nothing wrong with the above statement. Poor form or wrong
shoes can cause lower back problems and orthotics can correct ther
problem.

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Ok I'll be serious for a minute. If you take this idiots advice, you
will very likely end up PERMANENTLY crippled! Orthotics and corrective
shoes DO NOT correct, nor compensate for misalignment of the spine.

This is also true but presupposes there is an alignment problem. Your
statement and his are not necessarily the same.

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If that is the problem (your MD is not qualified to check for disk
troubles) then you need a chiropractor, not an MD

An MD can order X-rays taken and have them read to see if there is an
alignment problem. The Chiro is going to do the same thing if he is
worth a [censored]. The MD can then suggest the appropriate specialist be it a
podiatrist, chiro, PT, MT, Orthopedic or in your case a gynecologist.

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Find a good chiropractor.

You always think a chiro is the answer to any running problem. Chiro's
have there place in medicine but many of them still go outside of their
study. To me good chiro knows his bounds and stays the hell within
them. Sad to say they want new pools and bigger cars and will treat
plantar warts to fill their coffers. To find any "good"
doctor/specialist takes some homework.

-DougF

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An MD can order X-rays taken and have them read to see if there is an
alignment problem. The Chiro is going to do the same thing if he is
worth a [censored]. The MD can then suggest the appropriate specialist be it a
podiatrist, chiro, PT, MT, Orthopedic or in your case a gynecologist.

I think a proctologist could treat Bill too, perhaps have him lanced?

Ok, I'll 'break troll form' and be serious for a minute.
If you listen to Tom Phillips you will likely end up crippled for life.
His advice is downright dangerous! If he's that ignorant, or just
trolling I don't know, but orthos and heel lifts CANNOT, and DO NOT
compensate for spinal misalignment. Get to a chiropractor now. Only a
qualified Dr of Chiropractic (not a typical MD, who likely can't even
diagnose it) can realign your back and joints, and fix this problem.

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If that is the problem (your MD is not qualified to check for disk
troubles) then you need a chiropractor, not an MD

An MD can order X-rays taken and have them read to see if there is an
alignment problem. The Chiro is going to do the same thing if he is
worth a [censored]. The MD can then suggest the appropriate specialist be it a
podiatrist, chiro, PT, MT, Orthopedic or in your case a gynecologist.

Often good money down the tubes though in my experience.
I went to a D.O. for years; never had near the corrective
alignment effect on my spine and other back joints as
running. Never been to a gynecologist but the stirrups
nurse in my urologist's office was a new experience.

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Find a good chiropractor.

You always think a chiro is the answer to any running problem. Chiro's
have there place in medicine but many of them still go outside of their
study. To me good chiro knows his bounds and stays the hell within
them. Sad to say they want new pools and bigger cars and will treat
plantar warts to fill their coffers. To find any "good"
doctor/specialist takes some homework.

And most people have back trouble from having weak
back muscles, fat stomachs, poor posture (including
poor running posture), and just plain sitting too much.
A chiropractor's $$$ dream and likely not about to tell
someone all they need to do is get off the couch and
take a long upright walk 🙂

Surf McBrowse said:

I think a proctologist could treat Bill too, perhaps have him lanced?

I think it'd be more polite if you asked lance directly.

Listen to Tom, and you just may end up crippled. Orthos and lifts DO
NOT compensate for spinal misalignment. Get to a good chiropractor now.

gary said:

Hi
been running & hurt back, doc says it's a muscle spasm, but not disk,
as he checked for that!, sitting for long time agrevates this &
waking feeling stiff with lightening strikes in back!
Anyone had this & advice as to how they sorted it!
Cheers
Gaz

I have had similar problems in the past--lower back muscle spasms that get
better when just sitting, but worse when getting up after sitting for a long
time, or making sudden turns, twists (like when sleeping at night), usually
lasting for about a week. Sometimes I would feel the spasms in my side,
too, just above my hips. I went to a physiotherapist who thought it was my
quadratus lumborum, and gave me exercises to help strengthen it, and some
stretches, as well. Didn't help, and the problem reoccured. I then ended
up at a chiropractor, who did little to help, and it reoccured. Finally, I
started going to massage therapy, just for fun. My mt pointed out that my
iliopsoas (hip flexors) were very tight--he said that tight psoas can refer
to the lower back muscles. I mentioned my lower back muscle spasms and he
said my tight psoas could be the cause. We worked on some ways to relax
them, stretches, and did deep tissue massage. I also go to an
acupuncturist. I haven't had a reoccurance, though sometimes I feel the
same tightness that starts before the spasms. When that happens, I try to
relax the muscles--when it's really bad I take muscle relaxants, or if it's
not too bad, yet, I stretch and avoid any movements that make make it worse.

If interested in reading more on psoas and back problems, see
http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/10/03/25.html . It's a chiropractic
website, but the information, itself, is useful. FWIW, when my psoas are
particularly tight, I can feel a couple of big lumps--one somewhere around
the outer part of my groin area, and the other in my abdominal area,
serveral inches above the first lump.

rona
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Cheers
I play soccer too & have had this problem before & it has naturally
dispersed over time! This time it's lasted longer, but i've found that it is
going away & is feeling better & i'm running again.
My doc checked for disk trouble & said i haven't, but i'm holding myself
wrongly!, he gave me tylex & now seems better.
I can't afford a chiropractor & can't get them on NHS.
Is there anywhere i can getr to see one in UK for free?
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gary said:

Hi
been running & hurt back, doc says it's a muscle spasm, but not disk,
as he checked for that!, sitting for long time agrevates this &
waking feeling stiff with lightening strikes in back!
Anyone had this & advice as to how they sorted it!
Cheers
Gaz

I have had similar problems in the past--lower back muscle spasms that get
better when just sitting, but worse when getting up after sitting for a

long

Quoted message said:

time, or making sudden turns, twists (like when sleeping at night),

usually

Quoted message said:

lasting for about a week. Sometimes I would feel the spasms in my side,
too, just above my hips. I went to a physiotherapist who thought it was

my

Quoted message said:

quadratus lumborum, and gave me exercises to help strengthen it, and some
stretches, as well. Didn't help, and the problem reoccured. I then ended
up at a chiropractor, who did little to help, and it reoccured. Finally,

I

Quoted message said:

started going to massage therapy, just for fun. My mt pointed out that my
iliopsoas (hip flexors) were very tight--he said that tight psoas can

refer

Quoted message said:

to the lower back muscles. I mentioned my lower back muscle spasms and he
said my tight psoas could be the cause. We worked on some ways to relax
them, stretches, and did deep tissue massage. I also go to an
acupuncturist. I haven't had a reoccurance, though sometimes I feel the
same tightness that starts before the spasms. When that happens, I try

to

Quoted message said:

relax the muscles--when it's really bad I take muscle relaxants, or if

it's

Quoted message said:

not too bad, yet, I stretch and avoid any movements that make make it

worse.

Quoted message said:

If interested in reading more on psoas and back problems, see
http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/10/03/25.html . It's a chiropractic
website, but the information, itself, is useful. FWIW, when my psoas are
particularly tight, I can feel a couple of big lumps--one somewhere around
the outer part of my groin area, and the other in my abdominal area,
serveral inches above the first lump.

rona
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***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!***

"[America] is filled with people who decided not to live in Europe. We
had people who really wanted to live in Europe, but didn't have the
energy to go back. We call them Canadians." ---Grover Norquist in
Newsweek, November 22, 2004