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  1. (copy of an email sent to [email hidden])

    I have one of the earlier Henderson versions, but the pics on your site
    suggest the flaw still exists...

    The torque from the front brakes was resisted by a small bolt beside the
    front wheel axle. This bolt was

    a) too small;
    b) too close to the axle;
    c) too weak (not grade 5, even!)
    and
    d) loaded in shear

    It broke.

    It broke when my ten-year-old was riding - he might have weighed around a
    hundred pounds. He lost control and was dumped out of the trike.
    Fortunately he was not going very fast and was on the sidewalk, so he was
    only scraped up a bit.

    When this bolt breaks, the steering arm moves forward, control is lost, and
    the rider can easily be thrown forward into the path of whatever he/she was
    braking to avoid.

    I fixed this by maiking a pair of pieces of 1/8" x 1.25" aluminium go from
    the lower rod-end mount to a point on the steering arm just forward of the
    handle mount. This piece is attached to the lower rod end and with three
    small bolts on the steering arm.

    This fix changes the structure of the whole steering arm and axle-mounting
    plate to a triangle. The brake torque will now be resisted by the much
    larger section of threaded rod that goes throught the crossbar.

    It's a cheap and simple fix. I strongly suggest you modify the trikes you
    sell, and contact previous purchasers to offer to retrofit such a fix.

    I previously posted about the accident, the flaw, and the fix on
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. As you live in the USofA you must be aware of
    the possibility of liabilty claims should another such incident occur,
    especially as both the cause and the fix are public knowledge.

    (this post copied to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent)

  2. Richardson or Henderson??

    "jtaylor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    (copy of an email sent to [email hidden])

    I have one of the earlier Henderson versions, but the pics on your site
    suggest the flaw still exists...

    The torque from the front brakes was resisted by a small bolt beside the
    front wheel axle. This bolt was

    a) too small;
    b) too close to the axle;
    c) too weak (not grade 5, even!)
    and
    d) loaded in shear

    It broke.

    It broke when my ten-year-old was riding - he might have weighed around a
    hundred pounds. He lost control and was dumped out of the trike.
    Fortunately he was not going very fast and was on the sidewalk, so he was
    only scraped up a bit.

    When this bolt breaks, the steering arm moves forward, control is lost,
    and
    the rider can easily be thrown forward into the path of whatever he/she
    was
    braking to avoid.

    I fixed this by maiking a pair of pieces of 1/8" x 1.25" aluminium go from
    the lower rod-end mount to a point on the steering arm just forward of the
    handle mount. This piece is attached to the lower rod end and with three
    small bolts on the steering arm.

    This fix changes the structure of the whole steering arm and axle-mounting
    plate to a triangle. The brake torque will now be resisted by the much
    larger section of threaded rod that goes throught the crossbar.

    It's a cheap and simple fix. I strongly suggest you modify the trikes you
    sell, and contact previous purchasers to offer to retrofit such a fix.

    I previously posted about the accident, the flaw, and the fix on
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. As you live in the USofA you must be aware of
    the possibility of liabilty claims should another such incident occur,
    especially as both the cause and the fix are public knowledge.

    (this post copied to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent)

  3. "Joshua Goldberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Richardson or Henderson??

    Ooops, Richardson, flaw is the same...

    Quoted message said:

    "jtaylor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    (copy of an email sent to [email hidden])

    I have one of the earlier Henderson versions, but the pics on your site
    suggest the flaw still exists...

    The torque from the front brakes was resisted by a small bolt beside the
    front wheel axle. This bolt was

    a) too small;
    b) too close to the axle;
    c) too weak (not grade 5, even!)
    and
    d) loaded in shear

    It broke.

    It broke when my ten-year-old was riding - he might have weighed around


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    hundred pounds. He lost control and was dumped out of the trike.
    Fortunately he was not going very fast and was on the sidewalk, so he


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    only scraped up a bit.

    When this bolt breaks, the steering arm moves forward, control is lost,
    and
    the rider can easily be thrown forward into the path of whatever he/she
    was
    braking to avoid.

    I fixed this by maiking a pair of pieces of 1/8" x 1.25" aluminium go


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the lower rod-end mount to a point on the steering arm just forward of


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    handle mount. This piece is attached to the lower rod end and with


    three

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    small bolts on the steering arm.

    This fix changes the structure of the whole steering arm and


    axle-mounting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    plate to a triangle. The brake torque will now be resisted by the much
    larger section of threaded rod that goes throught the crossbar.

    It's a cheap and simple fix. I strongly suggest you modify the trikes


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sell, and contact previous purchasers to offer to retrofit such a fix.

    I previously posted about the accident, the flaw, and the fix on
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. As you live in the USofA you must be aware


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the possibility of liabilty claims should another such incident occur,
    especially as both the cause and the fix are public knowledge.

    (this post copied to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent)

  4. Nedavno jtaylor pise:

    | > Richardson or Henderson??
    |
    | Ooops, Richardson, flaw is the same...

    I am trying to build my own trike, and seeing your post, i looked up
    for Raptor trike on google. One of googles results come up with with
    the following photo:

    http://www.ezdenver.com/raptor/steering.jpg

    I was wondering if anyone knows where I can buy... Hmmm... English is
    not my native language, and I do not knew what's it called. I need the
    thing int the wheel center with axle going through it but big enough
    that wheel can be mounted like in the photo (without the fork).

    Anyone knows?

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  5. Nedavno Yvan pise:

    | I am trying to build my own trike, and seeing your post, i looked up
    | for Raptor trike on google. One of googles results come up with with
    | the following photo:
    |
    | http://www.ezdenver.com/raptor/steering.jpg
    |
    | I was wondering if anyone knows where I can buy... Hmmm... English is
    | not my native language, and I do not knew what's it called. I need the
    | thing int the wheel center with axle going through it but big enough
    | that wheel can be mounted like in the photo (without the fork).

    It looks like what I need is called a HUB. So, i need a hub with a
    stronger axle.

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  6. "Yvan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:20050325165626.45e927e5@localhost...

    Quoted message said:

    It looks like what I need is called a HUB. So, i need a hub with a
    stronger axle.

    Wheelchair hubs are commonly used for one-sided mounting. The Raptor ones
    are steel - not so good because the flanges are thin and the spoke hole
    corners do not deform like aluminium ones do - they break spokes.

  7. You can buy BMX hubs with 14mm axles, or some Formula disc hubs come with
    12mm sealed bearings and you can pull the QR and axle and use your own 12mm
    bolt.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It looks like what I need is called a HUB. So, i need a hub with a
    stronger axle.

    Wheelchair hubs are commonly used for one-sided mounting. The Raptor ones
    are steel - not so good because the flanges are thin and the spoke hole
    corners do not deform like aluminium ones do - they break spokes.

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