IBS Treatment

My understanding is, that if you have any kind of abdominal pain, and they
can't figure out what it is, they say you have IBS.

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Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that works.

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

I don't believe in IBS! Itis only a symptom of something bigger.

Talk to some people here and ask about gluten allergies.
alt.support.celiac

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Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that works.

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

They are right. What the hell is IBS supposed to mean. I went to a
gastroenterologist and he saw how much weight I lost as well as other
symptoms that are not associated with "IBS," and he still called it
IBS. When I questioned him about this, all he had to say is that that
was the best diagnosis he could make. I eventually cured myself with
stomach acid and pepsin supplements. There is a book called Digestive
Wellness that you might want to take a look at. Also, lipid
peroxidation can cause all kinds of gut problems, so eat more
antioxidant rich foods and less unsaturated fatty acids.

Forgot to mention: get off processed food - make it yourself - that's
what I do. In my upcoming book, I'm going to have a cooking and
recipes section for those who want to know how to make tasty, lacto-ovo
vegetarian dishes (some are vegan or can be made vegan) from scratch.
Dairy is great, but it's been turned into garbage, for example,
products with carrageenan, a known carcinogen (they use it to give mice
cancer for experimenal purposes), and very harsh on the gut, are all
over the place. If you were my patient, I'd have you bring in the food
you ate and we'd look at the ingredients for the things to avoid.
Good luck.

montygram said:

Dairy is great, but it's been turned into garbage, for example,
products with carrageenan, a known carcinogen (they use it to give mice
cancer for experimenal purposes), and very harsh on the gut, are all
over the place. If you were my patient, I'd have you bring in the food
you ate and we'd look at the ingredients for the things to avoid.

Is that why men who are heavy cow's milk drinkers may get prostate
cancer?

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They are right. What the hell is IBS supposed to mean. I went to a
gastroenterologist and he saw how much weight I lost as well as other
symptoms that are not associated with "IBS," and he still called it
IBS. When I questioned him about this, all he had to say is that that
was the best diagnosis he could make. I eventually cured myself with
stomach acid and pepsin supplements. There is a book called Digestive
Wellness that you might want to take a look at. Also, lipid
peroxidation can cause all kinds of gut problems, so eat more
antioxidant rich foods and less unsaturated fatty acids.

That proves he was right if you cured yourself. If it had been something
more serious then you would still have it Yahoo.

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My understanding is, that if you have any kind of abdominal pain, and they
can't figure out what it is, they say you have IBS.

Sort of. They rule out conditions that have obvious pathological markers or
finger prints of diseases. IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion once they rule
out the most obvious and common.
Some diseases or conditions do not have obvious specific diagnostic postive
findings to make a diagnosis so they have to exclude everything else.

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Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that works.

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

The cottage cheese I buy has carrageenan in it. Guess I'll have to
change brands.

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montygram said:

Dairy is great, but it's been turned into garbage, for example,
products with carrageenan, a known carcinogen (they use it to give mice
cancer for experimenal purposes), and very harsh on the gut, are all
over the place. If you were my patient, I'd have you bring in the food
you ate and we'd look at the ingredients for the things to avoid.

Is that why men who are heavy cow's milk drinkers may get

prostate

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cancer?

No. The high calcium intake especially in the context of a low
vitamin D intake results in lesser amounts of 25 OH vitamin D
being converted into 1, 25 OH vitamin D. This activated form
of the vitamin helps to protect the prostate gland from
cancer. Also heavy milk use may displace foods rich
in heathful phytochemicals and richer micromineral sources.

Anaru Hartley said:

Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that

works.

Quoted message said:

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

Here's a great book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0969276818/qid=1111946004/sr=2-3/ref=pd_ka_b_2_3/104-0070034-0943945

Breaking the Vicious Cycle: Intestinal Health Through Diet
by Elaine Gloria Gottschall

read the reviews.

TC

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This is typical establishment thinking. Don't you get it. If I
continued to listen to the doctor's, I'd be dead by now. You are so
agressively ignorant that you probably amaze yourself at times.

The last thing you want to be is thinking in terms of typical established
science.

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As to the prostate issue, if you do some research on pubmed, you'll see
that the evidence is so strong against lipid peroxidation/oxidative
stress/free radical damage that it may be the best model for this
mechanism.

Lipid peroxidation is a normal activity involving cell death no matter what
the origin. It merely means that the cell is dying.

The studies you cite not only fail to take the vitamin D

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issue into account, but also fail to distinguish between something like
raw organic goat's milk and pasteurized, homogenized, non-organic cow's
milk. Moreover, there is a sociological element, in that people who
drink whole milk these days are often the people who just eat whatever
they want, whereas those who limit their dairy are more likely to go to
a doctor within a couple of weeks of symptom onset, are more likely to
get tested in a short period of time, are more likely to eat several
servings of fruit/vegetables each day etc.

Guess what? There is quite an extensive body of evidence on this
sociological issue as well. As I say, you can easily "prove" an
"association" between smelly socks and any disease you like, because,
again, those who don't take care of themselves do so across the board,
and in our society, there are things such people are more likely to do.

Guess what? If you prove a stronger association of oxidative damage and
every disease known to man than you can with smelly socks. Thanks for
proving my point.
There is no specificity.

How nice it is that Robert, the man of science, fails to cite any
evidence for his claims. I wish you all the lipid peroxidation in the
world, Robert. But for those of you with something other than sawdust
between your ears, just go to www.pubmed.com and search for lipid
peroxidation. The more unsaturated fatty acids in your diet, the more
lipid peroxidation will likely do you great harm.

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How nice it is that Robert, the man of science, fails to cite any
evidence for his claims. I wish you all the lipid peroxidation in the
world, Robert. But for those of you with something other than sawdust
between your ears, just go to www.pubmed.com and search for lipid
peroxidation. The more unsaturated fatty acids in your diet, the more
lipid peroxidation will likely do you great harm.

I scrape off the oxidized portion of my statin meds to have full effect.

Anaru Hartley said:

Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that works.

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

I have found that symptomatic treatment is as good as anything:
reactivated carbon and yeast supplements may help reestablish flora
equilibrium, as well as Duspatalin (mebeverenic acid) and mesalazine (an
anti-inflammatory that acts only on the bowel), known in the UK as
Asacol or elsewhere as Salofalk.

Fruit and exercise are also useful, and maintaining a regular intake of
food rather than going without lunch is better, especially if you keep
the evening meal as small as possible.

It associates closely with stress - quite obviously in my case. So deal
with the stress too.

The Irritable Bowel Diet Book by Rosemary Nicol is also useful:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1569751889/qid=1112218892/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_8_9/026-9212338-5755621

Good luck.

Anaru Hartley said:

Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that works.

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

I have found that symptomatic treatment is as good as anything:
reactivated carbon and yeast supplements may help reestablish flora
equilibrium, as well as Duspatalin (mebeverenic acid) and mesalazine (an
anti-inflammatory that acts only on the bowel), known in the UK as
Asacol or elsewhere as Salofalk.

Fruit and exercise are also useful, and maintaining a regular intake of
food rather than going without lunch is better, especially if you keep
the evening meal as small as possible.

It associates closely with stress - quite obviously in my case. So deal
with the stress too.

The Irritable Bowel Diet Book by Rosemary Nicol is also useful:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1569751889/qid=1112218892/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_8_9/026-9212338-5755621

Good luck.

Philemon said:

Anaru Hartley said:

Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that works.

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

I have found that symptomatic treatment is as good as anything:
reactivated carbon and yeast supplements may help reestablish flora
equilibrium, as well as Duspatalin (mebeverenic acid) and mesalazine (an
anti-inflammatory that acts only on the bowel), known in the UK as
Asacol or elsewhere as Salofalk.

Fruit and exercise are also useful, and maintaining a regular intake of
food rather than going without lunch is better, especially if you keep
the evening meal as small as possible.

It associates closely with stress - quite obviously in my case. So deal
with the stress too.

The Irritable Bowel Diet Book by Rosemary Nicol is also useful:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1569751889/qid=1112218892/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_8_9/026-9212338-5755621

Good luck.

See also the mail in this NG above (more recent) called N-acetylcysteine
/ colitis. This substance is sold as mucosolvon, and traditionally is
used to unblock catarrh and congestion in colds. Its benefic effect
comes from its ability to increase permeability of mucous membrane and
hence fluidifies mucous secretion (yuck!) You can also buy it as
acetylcysteine in Holland and Barrett. Oh, and BTW, it's the best cure
for a hangover too, since it increases liver function of alcohol
dehydrogenase (according to New Scientist magazine).

Philemon said:

Anaru Hartley said:

Hello,

I am seeking information relating to the treatment of IBS, that works.

So far I have found this website: http://www.bowelpains.com

Are there any others that are similar?

Thanks.

I have found that symptomatic treatment is as good as anything:
reactivated carbon and yeast supplements may help reestablish flora
equilibrium, as well as Duspatalin (mebeverenic acid) and mesalazine (an
anti-inflammatory that acts only on the bowel), known in the UK as
Asacol or elsewhere as Salofalk.

Fruit and exercise are also useful, and maintaining a regular intake of
food rather than going without lunch is better, especially if you keep
the evening meal as small as possible.

It associates closely with stress - quite obviously in my case. So deal
with the stress too.

The Irritable Bowel Diet Book by Rosemary Nicol is also useful:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1569751889/qid=1112218892/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_8_9/026-9212338-5755621

Good luck.

See also the mail in this NG above (more recent) called N-acetylcysteine
/ colitis. This substance is sold as mucosolvon, and traditionally is
used to unblock catarrh and congestion in colds. Its benefic effect
comes from its ability to increase permeability of mucous membrane and
hence fluidifies mucous secretion (yuck!) You can also buy it as
acetylcysteine in Holland and Barrett. Oh, and BTW, it's the best cure
for a hangover too, since it increases liver function of alcohol
dehydrogenase (according to New Scientist magazine).