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  1. Good idea Catboy. I think the best solution would be to machine a slot
    in the bottom part of the collar and fabricate a level that would fit
    into it. That way the body of the collar would protect the level and
    mechanism.

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  2. Eric, that would just get cumbersome. THe easiest thing to do is have
    the quick release placed in a different area, such as above the clamp on
    the frame. That's where I put mine, and I think it'd work. I'm just too
    lazy to actually build it, since I have so many other things going on in
    the frame.

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  3. Eric, that would just get cumbersome. THe easiest thing to do is have
    the quick release placed in a different area, such as above the clamp on
    the frame. That's where I put mine, and I think it'd work. I'm just too
    lazy to actually build it, since I have so many other things going on in
    the frame.

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  4. How would that work Bevan? I am a bit confused... Would you then hinge
    the frame? or hinge the QR outwards? I think my ide would work in
    theory, but just wouldn't be able to be both strong enough to hold up,
    and yet not in the way. But I could be wrong, my idea could work. I just
    don't see why we can't just put a willte effort into it and unscrew the
    bearing holders if we need to switch the wheel. I mean... it takes less
    than 5 minutes to do.

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  5. How would that work Bevan? I am a bit confused... Would you then hinge
    the frame? or hinge the QR outwards? I think my ide would work in
    theory, but just wouldn't be able to be both strong enough to hold up,
    and yet not in the way. But I could be wrong, my idea could work. I just
    don't see why we can't just put a willte effort into it and unscrew the
    bearing holders if we need to switch the wheel. I mean... it takes less
    than 5 minutes to do.

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  6. whoa. those are super nice. i want at least 2 pair, i would put them on
    my muni and my freestyle uni. can i get a date on when these frames will
    be ready for buying?

    great work man.

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  7. whoa. those are super nice. i want at least 2 pair, i would put them on
    my muni and my freestyle uni. can i get a date on when these frames will
    be ready for buying?

    great work man.

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  8. I made a 3D Design to firther clarify my idea, and to help point out
    design flaws(there has to be something). If you could get a semi-strong
    matertial, like steel or something, that could hold up to most abuse
    without denting in(beyond repair) or making the clamp suceptable to
    injury I don't see why this couldn't be used for converting a muni to a
    cruiser and visa versa. I am sure it isn't the greates idea for street
    and trials where the bearing clamp will be constantly abused with
    grabs,and what-not, but Why not just use it for uni's that aren't going
    to be destroying the bearing clamp.
    open face
    solid cover-peice

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  9. I made a 3D Design to firther clarify my idea, and to help point out
    design flaws(there has to be something). If you could get a semi-strong
    matertial, like steel or something, that could hold up to most abuse
    without denting in(beyond repair) or making the clamp suceptable to
    injury I don't see why this couldn't be used for converting a muni to a
    cruiser and visa versa. I am sure it isn't the greates idea for street
    and trials where the bearing clamp will be constantly abused with
    grabs,and what-not, but Why not just use it for uni's that aren't going
    to be destroying the bearing clamp.
    open face
    solid cover-peice

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  10. This is a great advance in unicycle technology; I can't wait until it
    gets into production frames. In addition to the obvious benefits in
    terms of changing tires, it would also help me quite a bit with my
    kinetic sculpture transitions from the Gazz back to the Big Apple.

    Jim: Let me know if you're going to wind up in the Bay Area any time
    soon. A lot of our trails are waterlogged right now, but there are
    still places you can find to ride.

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  11. Hey Tom;

    Thanks, yes I'm hoping they get into production soon too. I am looking
    at the last week in January/first week in Feb to be out in the Bay Area.
    I'll give you a heads up when I finalize my plans. Hope things dry out
    for you out there!

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  12. Jim_Rob said:

    *Hey Tom;

    Thanks, yes I'm hoping they get into production soon too. I am looking
    at the last week in January/first week in Feb to be out in the Bay
    Area. I'll give you a heads up when I finalize my plans. Hope things
    dry out for you out there! *

    I'd like to get in on this too. I'm in SF and can make it out to the
    East bay for a ride pretty often.

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  13. Catboy said:

    *I made a 3D Design to firther clarify my idea, and to help point out
    design flaws(there has to be something). If you could get a
    semi-strong matertial, like steel or something, that could hold up to
    most abuse without denting in(beyond repair) or making the clamp
    suceptable to injury I don't see why this couldn't be used for
    converting a muni to a cruiser and visa versa. I am sure it isn't the
    greates idea for street and trials where the bearing clamp will be
    constantly abused with grabs,and what-not, but Why not just use it for
    uni's that aren't going to be destroying the bearing clamp.
    open face
    solid cover-peice *

    By the time you've screwed on that cover or removed it, you'd have
    gotten normal bearing caps off.

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  14. I don't see any need to design a cover or other protective piece for the
    quick release lever. As long as the uni isn't used for pedal grabs and
    crank grabs it will be fine. It would be perfectly fine for the way I
    ride my muni. Even in cases where I slip off the side of a skinny it
    would be very very unlikely to break the lever even if I did hit it on
    something on the way down.

    My concern would be accidental opening due to vibration or hard impulse
    force (landing a big drop). There isn't a lot of clamping force on the
    bearing housing. If there is too much clamping force you will bind the
    bearing. So there isn't going to be a lot of back force on the quick
    release to prevent accidental opening due to vibration or impulse force.
    This would mostly depend on the shape of the cam that the quick release
    uses. If the QR used here has a tendency to pop open it might be
    necessary to file a small flat area on the cam to get it to lock in
    place when closed.

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  15. I think that this design would be implemented best on touring unicycles,
    such as cokers or 29ers.

    It may work well on a muni if you don't do any natty whilst on a ride.
    Even if you did hit it a few times, I think it could withstand a fairly
    good amount of punishment without being hurt.

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  16. Jim_Rob said:

    *I bet they'll be plenty strong enough. I will turn Owen and Nate
    loose with one and we'll find out. *

    Yeah Nate will kick the [censored] out of them. He will be a great tester.
    Im very interested in how these will turn out!

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  17. I thought I would bump this thread with a picture of the QR on the
    frame. We have just put together a couple of prototypes to test out. So
    far the QR bearing holder works like I expected. It takes less than 30
    seconds, and no tools, to completely swap out a wheel set, and that was
    the 2nd time I tried it. Right now we have a modified Yuni frame that
    I'm using for my Beast 29er and two prototypes that Owen and Nate are
    working on. Everyone is welcome to check out the real thing at Moab.

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  18. That looks awesome. Do you have to fiddle with the quick release lever
    to get the right tension on the bearings?

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  19. There was a guy at the German Muni& Trials Weekend with quick release
    bearing holders on a very custom muni.

    I didnt have much time to inspect them but they did look a bit more
    complicated than yours, Jim. The clamp arms were positioned on the sides
    of the bearing holders so that they were vertical and couldnt be hit on
    a crank grab.

    I think the owner was either Lukas Bier or Jan Meissner from Chocen,
    Czech Republic.....although i could be wrong.

    Photos are trickling in from the weekend just now. If i see any pics of
    the uni or learn more about who the rider was, ill let you know.

    Cool stuff!

    erik

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  20. I'm going to have to try that at moab, it looks like fun. I really wanna
    try the 190 mm cranks, those have got to be crazy.

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