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  1. Since I've started reading this newsgroup, I've heard the blame for
    mankind's ills are all related to:

    Soy
    Grains
    Dairy
    Fats
    Red Meat
    Mediterranean Diet
    Canola Oil
    Red Wine
    Carbohydrates
    High-Glycemic Foods

    And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the cause of
    the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is, look
    no further than our lack of exercise.

    Don't believe me? Ask yourself these questions.

    Are you more apt to:
    - Watch a basketball game on TV, or go shoot some hoops?
    - Go for a drive, or go for a bike ride?
    - Take you kid to a ballgame, or go play ball with your kid?
    - Lift bags of groceries, or go lift weights at a gym?
    - Run to the store, or run a 5K?
    - Watch the ChemLawn man, or watch your garden grow?
    - Rent a movie, or rent some bowling shoes?
    - Walk around Walmart, or walk your dog?
    - Go to bed because your bored, or go to sleep because you're
    physically tired?

    The bottom line is this. Eat a constant variety of whole foods in
    their natural state and get off/stay off your ass. Nature will take
    care of the rest.

    Patrick (took the day off and only ran 4 miles)

  2. I can't do all those physical things. My nutrition levels are too low and I
    will die too young.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Since I've started reading this newsgroup, I've heard the blame for
    mankind's ills are all related to:

    Soy
    Grains
    Dairy
    Fats
    Red Meat
    Mediterranean Diet
    Canola Oil
    Red Wine
    Carbohydrates
    High-Glycemic Foods

    And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the cause of
    the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is, look
    no further than our lack of exercise.

    Don't believe me? Ask yourself these questions.

    Are you more apt to:
    - Watch a basketball game on TV, or go shoot some hoops?
    - Go for a drive, or go for a bike ride?
    - Take you kid to a ballgame, or go play ball with your kid?
    - Lift bags of groceries, or go lift weights at a gym?
    - Run to the store, or run a 5K?
    - Watch the ChemLawn man, or watch your garden grow?
    - Rent a movie, or rent some bowling shoes?
    - Walk around Walmart, or walk your dog?
    - Go to bed because your bored, or go to sleep because you're
    physically tired?

    The bottom line is this. Eat a constant variety of whole foods in
    their natural state and get off/stay off your ass. Nature will take
    care of the rest.

    Patrick (took the day off and only ran 4 miles)

  3. Quoted message said:

    And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the cause of
    the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is, look
    no further than our lack of exercise.

    Good words.

  4. Pizza Girl said:

    I can't do all those physical things. My nutrition levels are too low and I
    will die too young.

    Doubt that. But be careful in the beginning. Start slowly, not rush.

  5. LOL... You alway were the [censored]!

    "Alf Christophersen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Pizza Girl said:

    I can't do all those physical things. My nutrition levels are too low and


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will die too young.

    Doubt that. But be careful in the beginning. Start slowly, not rush.

  6. Yeh!
    Keep eating [censored] and spend all your time jogging, etc.

  7. Jogging rids us of freaks every day. They have heart failure and everybody
    says "He was such a nice young man"

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeh!
    Keep eating [censored] and spend all your time jogging, etc.

  8. Maybe the problem is that we are not taking enough pills. Just kidding,
    of course.

    The bottom line is that a large number of people have experienced life
    on a high-refined-carb diet and suffered from obesity and the
    accompanying health problems such as IBS, Crohn's, syndrome X,
    diabetes, susceptibility to colds and infections, anxiety and
    depression, heart disease, etc. Many of these same people changed their
    diets to a low-carb diet and witnessed weight loss and the accompanying
    side-effect of many of the health problems either going away entirely
    or diminishing drastically.

    The bottom line is that a low-carb real-food diet has more variety and
    is infinitely healthier than a low-fat/high-refined-carb US Food
    Pyramid diet. Many of us know this to be fact.

    Getting good exercise is a given. It is a very healthy thing to do. But
    it is not the one and only stand-alone solution to obesity and disease.

    If you eat tons of refined carbs, exercise alone will not keep you thin
    and healthy.

    And even if it does keep you thin, the refined carbs are doing serious
    obn-going damage to your cardio-vascular and your endocrine systems
    over time. You will still become diseased.

    TC

    Quoted message said:

    Since I've started reading this newsgroup, I've heard the blame for
    mankind's ills are all related to:

    Soy
    Grains
    Dairy
    Fats
    Red Meat
    Mediterranean Diet
    Canola Oil
    Red Wine
    Carbohydrates
    High-Glycemic Foods

    And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the cause


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is,


    look

    Quoted message said:

    no further than our lack of exercise.

    Don't believe me? Ask yourself these questions.

    Are you more apt to:
    - Watch a basketball game on TV, or go shoot some hoops?
    - Go for a drive, or go for a bike ride?
    - Take you kid to a ballgame, or go play ball with your kid?
    - Lift bags of groceries, or go lift weights at a gym?
    - Run to the store, or run a 5K?
    - Watch the ChemLawn man, or watch your garden grow?
    - Rent a movie, or rent some bowling shoes?
    - Walk around Walmart, or walk your dog?
    - Go to bed because your bored, or go to sleep because you're
    physically tired?

    The bottom line is this. Eat a constant variety of whole foods in
    their natural state and get off/stay off your ass. Nature will take
    care of the rest.

    Patrick (took the day off and only ran 4 miles)

  9. On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:49:37 +0200, Alf Christophersen wrote on
    sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the cause of
    the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is, look
    no further than our lack of exercise.

    Good words.

    Yeah!

    --
    Enrico C

  10. Enrico C said:

    On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:49:37 +0200, Alf Christophersen wrote on
    sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the cause of
    the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is, look
    no further than our lack of exercise.

    Good words.

    Yeah!

    Yeah [censored]. Your propensity to exercise is genetic. If you are a natural
    fidgeter you are in good luck. If not our instinct is not to exercise to
    conserver energy. So your solution to the obesity problem is to everyday
    of your life do something that his both hard and unnatural. That's an
    excellent plan.

  11. greg said:

    Yeah [censored]. Your propensity to exercise is genetic. If you are a natural
    fidgeter you are in good luck. If not our instinct is not to exercise to
    conserver energy. So your solution to the obesity problem is to everyday
    of your life do something that his both hard and unnatural. That's an
    excellent plan.

    Lazy boy.
    The problem is that mankind had to work very hard to survive. So it
    has been since at least the 10000 last years.

    The latest industrial revolution (computer age) has made it possible
    to be lazy, but mental stress is not lessened.

    Mental stress increase breakdown of glycogen to feed your muscles to
    escape from the enemies. But unfortunately, there are no physical
    enemies around hunting you. So the adipocytes has to tidy up and
    convert all the glucose freed and turn it into fat, which never get
    mobilized because you are not doing any kind of physical work anymore,
    barely moving your fingers.
    Then you are stuck into it.More fattiness increase mental stress
    because people are telling you to slim, Increased mental stress
    increase adrenalin release that signal even more glycogen breakdown
    (and also glucagon release), but since you are not burning glucose and
    muscle cells are completely inactive, no sugar are taken up to be
    burnt as fuel, so even more are taken up by adipocytes and even more
    fat produced and stored and fattier you turn and so on and so on and
    so on until your chair is collapsing or the stage up to your bedroom
    is collapsing, making a final end to your fatty life.
    (I once saw a movie about a real fat lady, they had to burn the house
    because no one was able to get the dead body out of the bedroom,
    weighing more than 400 kg)

  12. greg said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the


    cause of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    >going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is,


    look

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >no further than our lack of exercise.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Good words.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yeah!

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah [censored]. Your propensity to exercise is genetic. If you are a


    natural

    Quoted message said:

    fidgeter you are in good luck. If not our instinct is not to exercise


    to

    Quoted message said:

    conserver energy. So your solution to the obesity problem is to


    everyday

    Quoted message said:

    of your life do something that his both hard and unnatural. That's an

    Quoted message said:

    excellent plan.

    Greg,

    First, describe your body size, shape and your fitness level. Then
    read the following.

    ---
    Not everyone may feel this way, but new research argues that humans
    evolved to become natural runners.

    Quoted message said:

    From our spring-loaded ligaments to our muscular behinds to our ability


    to sweat, the human body took the ideal shape of a long-distance runner
    starting some 2 million years ago, the researchers say. The long, lean
    build helped us scavenge widely scattered kills and could also have
    been an advantage when hunting down prey over long distances.

    Top Stories

    * Microsoft Launches Portable TV Service
    * RadioYourWay Great for Radio Junkies
    * Wireless Device Can Monitor Patients

    "We're lousy sprinters, but we're really great long-distance runners,"
    said Daniel Lieberman, an anthropologist at Harvard University. "Anyone
    who jogs regularly can tell you that it feels good."

    How can two legs be better than four when it comes to striding for long
    distances? Consider the fact that some 334,000 people ran marathons in
    the United States last year, and then try getting an antelope to run 26
    miles, or a chimp, for that matter.

    "You'd never beat a chimp in a 100-meter dash, but you could never get
    them to run a marathon," he said. "And they wouldn't like trying."

    Evolutionary biologists have generally credited humans' ability to run
    as an offshoot of our ability to walk on two feet.

    "How can anyone even conceive of an animal evolving a walking strategy
    that was entirely decoupled from a running strategy?" asks C. Owen
    Lovejoy of Kent State University in Kent, Ohio.

    But in a study appearing in this week's issue of "Nature," Harvard's
    Lieberman and Dennis Bramble of the University of Utah argue that
    endurance running may have been so critical in early humans' survival
    that it played a role in shaping many aspects of our bodies.

    Runners From Head to Toe

    The pair studied both modern human anatomy and the fossil record of
    early human ancestors to look for characteristics that would have
    specifically enhanced people's ability to run for long distances. They
    say most, if not all of these key features seem to have emerged 2
    million years ago with the first appearances of the genus [censored] - the
    same group as modern living humans.

    The peroneus brevis tendon, for example, made famous by Red Sox pitcher
    Curt Schilling's injury during the 2004 World Series, is one of several
    elongated tendons in the human body that the authors argue provides
    critical spring as a person runs. In apes and chimpanzees, the same
    tendons are much shorter, says Lieberman, and don't offer the same kind
    of spring-loading action.

    Then there is the gluteus maximus - the unusually large muscle humans
    carry at their rear. Why such bulk in back? Lieberman says it's for
    running and, again, this feature is less pronounced in our evolutionary
    ancestors.

    "When we walk, we barely use the gluteus maximus," he said. "As soon as
    you start running, it plays a vital role to keep you from falling -
    it stabilizes your trunk."

    Other features the authors list that help us run include the arches in
    our feet, which offer spring in our step, and broad surface areas of
    our joints, which help distribute the shock of impact from running -
    at least enough for ancient man, who didn't run on pavement and who
    never lived much longer than 40 years.

    The upper body, meanwhile, carries its own made-for-running designs,
    including wide shoulders - good for swinging arms from for balance as
    we stride - and lighter forearms that are easy to move back and
    forth. Even our heads are equipped for running, they say, as a large
    ligament stretching from our spines to the back of our heads acts to
    dampen the oscillation of our heads as we plod along.

    Finally, our ability to sweat is unmatched with our estimated 3 million
    sweat glands. Couple that with the fact that we aren't very furry and
    you have a cool, running machine.

    Jogging for Supper

    Bernd Heinrich, a world record holder in the ultra marathon and
    biologist at the University of Vermont in Burlington, says the authors'
    points make sense.

    "Most of us don't do much running so it may not feel natural, but it
    feels natural to me," he said. "Not much is new here, but I think they
    bring together a lot of evidence so it all fits into a pattern."
    ---

    Patrick

  13. greg said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the


    cause of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these are
    >going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit is,


    look

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >no further than our lack of exercise.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Good words.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yeah!

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah [censored]. Your propensity to exercise is genetic. If you are a


    natural

    Quoted message said:

    fidgeter you are in good luck. If not our instinct is not to exercise


    to

    Quoted message said:

    conserver energy. So your solution to the obesity problem is to


    everyday

    Quoted message said:

    of your life do something that his both hard and unnatural. That's an

    Quoted message said:

    excellent plan.

    Greg,

    First, describe your body size, shape and your fitness level. Then
    read the following.

    ---
    Not everyone may feel this way, but new research argues that humans
    evolved to become natural runners.

    Quoted message said:

    From our spring-loaded ligaments to our muscular behinds to our ability


    to sweat, the human body took the ideal shape of a long-distance runner
    starting some 2 million years ago, the researchers say. The long, lean
    build helped us scavenge widely scattered kills and could also have
    been an advantage when hunting down prey over long distances.

    Top Stories

    * Microsoft Launches Portable TV Service
    * RadioYourWay Great for Radio Junkies
    * Wireless Device Can Monitor Patients

    "We're lousy sprinters, but we're really great long-distance runners,"
    said Daniel Lieberman, an anthropologist at Harvard University. "Anyone
    who jogs regularly can tell you that it feels good."

    How can two legs be better than four when it comes to striding for long
    distances? Consider the fact that some 334,000 people ran marathons in
    the United States last year, and then try getting an antelope to run 26
    miles, or a chimp, for that matter.

    "You'd never beat a chimp in a 100-meter dash, but you could never get
    them to run a marathon," he said. "And they wouldn't like trying."

    Evolutionary biologists have generally credited humans' ability to run
    as an offshoot of our ability to walk on two feet.

    "How can anyone even conceive of an animal evolving a walking strategy
    that was entirely decoupled from a running strategy?" asks C. Owen
    Lovejoy of Kent State University in Kent, Ohio.

    But in a study appearing in this week's issue of "Nature," Harvard's
    Lieberman and Dennis Bramble of the University of Utah argue that
    endurance running may have been so critical in early humans' survival
    that it played a role in shaping many aspects of our bodies.

    Runners From Head to Toe

    The pair studied both modern human anatomy and the fossil record of
    early human ancestors to look for characteristics that would have
    specifically enhanced people's ability to run for long distances. They
    say most, if not all of these key features seem to have emerged 2
    million years ago with the first appearances of the genus [censored] - the
    same group as modern living humans.

    The peroneus brevis tendon, for example, made famous by Red Sox pitcher
    Curt Schilling's injury during the 2004 World Series, is one of several
    elongated tendons in the human body that the authors argue provides
    critical spring as a person runs. In apes and chimpanzees, the same
    tendons are much shorter, says Lieberman, and don't offer the same kind
    of spring-loading action.

    Then there is the gluteus maximus - the unusually large muscle humans
    carry at their rear. Why such bulk in back? Lieberman says it's for
    running and, again, this feature is less pronounced in our evolutionary
    ancestors.

    "When we walk, we barely use the gluteus maximus," he said. "As soon as
    you start running, it plays a vital role to keep you from falling -
    it stabilizes your trunk."

    Other features the authors list that help us run include the arches in
    our feet, which offer spring in our step, and broad surface areas of
    our joints, which help distribute the shock of impact from running -
    at least enough for ancient man, who didn't run on pavement and who
    never lived much longer than 40 years.

    The upper body, meanwhile, carries its own made-for-running designs,
    including wide shoulders - good for swinging arms from for balance as
    we stride - and lighter forearms that are easy to move back and
    forth. Even our heads are equipped for running, they say, as a large
    ligament stretching from our spines to the back of our heads acts to
    dampen the oscillation of our heads as we plod along.

    Finally, our ability to sweat is unmatched with our estimated 3 million
    sweat glands. Couple that with the fact that we aren't very furry and
    you have a cool, running machine.

    Jogging for Supper

    Bernd Heinrich, a world record holder in the ultra marathon and
    biologist at the University of Vermont in Burlington, says the authors'
    points make sense.

    "Most of us don't do much running so it may not feel natural, but it
    feels natural to me," he said. "Not much is new here, but I think they
    bring together a lot of evidence so it all fits into a pattern."
    ---

    Patrick

  14. Quoted message said:

    Yeh!
    Keep eating [censored]

    Whole foods are "[censored]"? Maybe you should describe to us about your
    healthful diet.

    Quoted message said:

    and spend all your time jogging, etc.

    What's wrong with fitness? And what, don't you exercise...?

    Patrick

  15. Quoted message said:

    Yeh!
    Keep eating [censored]

    Whole foods are "[censored]"? Maybe you should describe to us about your
    healthful diet.

    Quoted message said:

    and spend all your time jogging, etc.

    What's wrong with fitness? And what, don't you exercise...?

    Patrick

  16. If you review the literature, old as well as new, you will see that
    cancer incidence for different cancers have changed dramatically in the
    twentieth century as diets changed. If you think this is a
    coincidence, fine. I've found biochemical mechanisms that explain why.
    Exercise creates oxidative stress in your body. Studies have
    demonstrated that eating some raisins helps, due to their high
    antioxidant content. Why did our active forefathers have such high
    rates of stomach cancer while we lazy people don't? You need to do
    some reading. You are in a black and white world, possibly because you
    watch too much Hannity and Combs, or shows like that - reality is more
    complicated - you need to think a bit outside the box. You seem to be
    clinging to the inside of it with all your might.

  17. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ---
    Not everyone may feel this way, but new research argues that humans
    evolved to become natural runners.

    Quoted message said:

    From our spring-loaded ligaments to our muscular behinds to our ability


    to sweat, the human body took the ideal shape of a long-distance runner
    starting some 2 million years ago, the researchers say. The long, lean
    build helped us scavenge widely scattered kills and could also have
    been an advantage when hunting down prey over long distances.

    Top Stories

    * Microsoft Launches Portable TV Service
    * RadioYourWay Great for Radio Junkies
    * Wireless Device Can Monitor Patients

    "We're lousy sprinters, but we're really great long-distance runners,"
    said Daniel Lieberman, an anthropologist at Harvard University. "Anyone
    who jogs regularly can tell you that it feels good."

    How can two legs be better than four when it comes to striding for long
    distances? Consider the fact that some 334,000 people ran marathons in
    the United States last year, and then try getting an antelope to run 26
    miles, or a chimp, for that matter.

    "You'd never beat a chimp in a 100-meter dash, but you could never get
    them to run a marathon," he said. "And they wouldn't like trying."

    Evolutionary biologists have generally credited humans' ability to run
    as an offshoot of our ability to walk on two feet.

    "How can anyone even conceive of an animal evolving a walking strategy
    that was entirely decoupled from a running strategy?" asks C. Owen
    Lovejoy of Kent State University in Kent, Ohio.

    But in a study appearing in this week's issue of "Nature," Harvard's
    Lieberman and Dennis Bramble of the University of Utah argue that
    endurance running may have been so critical in early humans' survival
    that it played a role in shaping many aspects of our bodies.

    Runners From Head to Toe

    The pair studied both modern human anatomy and the fossil record of
    early human ancestors to look for characteristics that would have
    specifically enhanced people's ability to run for long distances. They
    say most, if not all of these key features seem to have emerged 2
    million years ago with the first appearances of the genus [censored] - the
    same group as modern living humans.

    The peroneus brevis tendon, for example, made famous by Red Sox pitcher
    Curt Schilling's injury during the 2004 World Series, is one of several
    elongated tendons in the human body that the authors argue provides
    critical spring as a person runs. In apes and chimpanzees, the same
    tendons are much shorter, says Lieberman, and don't offer the same kind
    of spring-loading action.

    Then there is the gluteus maximus - the unusually large muscle humans
    carry at their rear. Why such bulk in back? Lieberman says it's for
    running and, again, this feature is less pronounced in our evolutionary
    ancestors.

    "When we walk, we barely use the gluteus maximus," he said. "As soon as
    you start running, it plays a vital role to keep you from falling -
    it stabilizes your trunk."

    Other features the authors list that help us run include the arches in
    our feet, which offer spring in our step, and broad surface areas of
    our joints, which help distribute the shock of impact from running -
    at least enough for ancient man, who didn't run on pavement and who
    never lived much longer than 40 years.

    The upper body, meanwhile, carries its own made-for-running designs,
    including wide shoulders - good for swinging arms from for balance as
    we stride - and lighter forearms that are easy to move back and
    forth. Even our heads are equipped for running, they say, as a large
    ligament stretching from our spines to the back of our heads acts to
    dampen the oscillation of our heads as we plod along.

    Finally, our ability to sweat is unmatched with our estimated 3 million
    sweat glands. Couple that with the fact that we aren't very furry and
    you have a cool, running machine.

    Jogging for Supper

    Bernd Heinrich, a world record holder in the ultra marathon and
    biologist at the University of Vermont in Burlington, says the authors'
    points make sense.

    "Most of us don't do much running so it may not feel natural, but it
    feels natural to me," he said. "Not much is new here, but I think they
    bring together a lot of evidence so it all fits into a pattern."
    ---

    Patrick


    I'll stick to bicycling thank you.. So much easier on the joints and soft
    tissues. I was a runner when I was younger and loved it. I just don't
    think it is good to continue the damage for too long.

    Now, on the other hand, Kenyans seem to be built to run. They are awesome!
    Of the very few that I have seen in person, they have wonderful skin, great
    skeletal structure, beautiful teeth (this is all very important to Weston A.
    Price followers). Has anyone ever studied what the diet of their country
    is? I have no idea about longevity, CVD, cancer, etc., for Kenya. They
    just seem to radiate good health. I suppose the few I have seen might not
    truly represent the majority though.

    René

  18. Pizza Girl said:

    I guess I have a throat so I should drink gallons of whiskey each


    hour then

    Quoted message said:

    too?

    Yes, for *you* that would be highly recommended.

    Patrick

    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    greg said:

    >>>And these are just a few. The thing is none of these are the


    cause of

    Quoted message said:

    >>>the World's growing obesity/health problems, and none of these


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>going to kill you. If you want to know what the real culprit


    is,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    look

    Quoted message said:

    >>>no further than our lack of exercise.

    Quoted message said:

    >>Good words.

    Quoted message said:

    > Yeah!

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah [censored]. Your propensity to exercise is genetic. If you are a


    natural

    Quoted message said:

    fidgeter you are in good luck. If not our instinct is not to


    exercise

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    conserver energy. So your solution to the obesity problem is to


    everyday

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    of your life do something that his both hard and unnatural.


    That's an

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    excellent plan.

    Greg,

    First, describe your body size, shape and your fitness level. Then
    read the following.

    ---
    Not everyone may feel this way, but new research argues that humans
    evolved to become natural runners.

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    From our spring-loaded ligaments to our muscular behinds to our


    ability

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    to sweat, the human body took the ideal shape of a long-distance


    runner

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    starting some 2 million years ago, the researchers say. The long,


    lean

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    build helped us scavenge widely scattered kills and could also have
    been an advantage when hunting down prey over long distances.

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    "We're lousy sprinters, but we're really great long-distance


    runners,"

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    said Daniel Lieberman, an anthropologist at Harvard University.


    "Anyone

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    who jogs regularly can tell you that it feels good."

    How can two legs be better than four when it comes to striding for


    long

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    distances? Consider the fact that some 334,000 people ran marathons


    in

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    the United States last year, and then try getting an antelope to


    run 26

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    miles, or a chimp, for that matter.

    "You'd never beat a chimp in a 100-meter dash, but you could never


    get

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    them to run a marathon," he said. "And they wouldn't like trying."

    Evolutionary biologists have generally credited humans' ability to


    run

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    as an offshoot of our ability to walk on two feet.

    "How can anyone even conceive of an animal evolving a walking


    strategy

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    that was entirely decoupled from a running strategy?" asks C. Owen
    Lovejoy of Kent State University in Kent, Ohio.

    But in a study appearing in this week's issue of "Nature,"


    Harvard's

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    Lieberman and Dennis Bramble of the University of Utah argue that
    endurance running may have been so critical in early humans'


    survival

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    that it played a role in shaping many aspects of our bodies.

    Runners From Head to Toe

    The pair studied both modern human anatomy and the fossil record of
    early human ancestors to look for characteristics that would have
    specifically enhanced people's ability to run for long distances.


    They

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    say most, if not all of these key features seem to have emerged 2
    million years ago with the first appearances of the genus [censored] -


    the

    Quoted message said:
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    same group as modern living humans.

    The peroneus brevis tendon, for example, made famous by Red Sox


    pitcher

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Curt Schilling's injury during the 2004 World Series, is one of


    several

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    elongated tendons in the human body that the authors argue provides
    critical spring as a person runs. In apes and chimpanzees, the same
    tendons are much shorter, says Lieberman, and don't offer the same


    kind

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    of spring-loading action.

    Then there is the gluteus maximus - the unusually large muscle


    humans

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    carry at their rear. Why such bulk in back? Lieberman says it's for
    running and, again, this feature is less pronounced in our


    evolutionary

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    ancestors.

    "When we walk, we barely use the gluteus maximus," he said. "As


    soon as

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    you start running, it plays a vital role to keep you from falling -
    it stabilizes your trunk."

    Other features the authors list that help us run include the arches


    in

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    our feet, which offer spring in our step, and broad surface areas


    of

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    our joints, which help distribute the shock of impact from running


    -

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    at least enough for ancient man, who didn't run on pavement and who
    never lived much longer than 40 years.

    The upper body, meanwhile, carries its own made-for-running


    designs,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    including wide shoulders - good for swinging arms from for balance


    as

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    we stride - and lighter forearms that are easy to move back and
    forth. Even our heads are equipped for running, they say, as a


    large

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    ligament stretching from our spines to the back of our heads acts


    to

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    dampen the oscillation of our heads as we plod along.

    Finally, our ability to sweat is unmatched with our estimated 3


    million

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    sweat glands. Couple that with the fact that we aren't very furry


    and

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    you have a cool, running machine.

    Jogging for Supper

    Bernd Heinrich, a world record holder in the ultra marathon and
    biologist at the University of Vermont in Burlington, says the


    authors'

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    points make sense.

    "Most of us don't do much running so it may not feel natural, but


    it

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    feels natural to me," he said. "Not much is new here, but I think


    they

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    bring together a lot of evidence so it all fits into a pattern."
    ---

    Patrick

  19. montygram said:

    If you review the literature, old as well as new, you will see that
    cancer incidence for different cancers have changed dramatically in


    the

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    twentieth century as diets changed.

    I don't doubt that. With the [censored] the average person consumes, it's
    amazing people live as long as they do.

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    If you think this is a coincidence, fine. I've found biochemical


    mechanisms > that explain why. Exercise creates oxidative stress in
    your body.

    Yes, it does stress the body, but the stress of exercise strengthens
    it.

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    Studies have demonstrated that eating some raisins helps, due to


    their high

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    antioxidant content.

    Just raisins, huh? Did you know blueberries are higher? Cranberries,
    blackberries, pomegranates, beans, artichokes, and Russet potatoes,
    pecans, walnuts and hazelnuts, ground cloves, ground cinnamon and
    oregano are also high in antioxidants.

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    Why did our active forefathers have such high
    rates of stomach cancer while we lazy people don't?

    So you're saying exercise increases the risk of stomach cancer? LOL
    Please point me to this study!

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    You need to do some reading. You are in a black and white world,


    possibly

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    because you watch too much Hannity and Combs, or shows like that

    Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about because I watch *very*
    little TV.

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    - reality is more complicated - you need to think a bit outside the


    box. You > seem to be clinging to the inside of it with all your
    might.

    The box I'm living in is called the planet Earth. You on the other
    hand, must be from Pluto if you think exercise is bad for you.

    I'll tell you what... you better get off your fat butt, or you'll soon
    be a heart attack waiting to happen.

    Patrick
    Runs 1.5 miles in 9:32 and 13.1 in 1:39:17. Next up, 4.4 miles in less
    than 30, and this is from a guy who's over 40.

  20. Rene said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
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    Not everyone may feel this way, but new research argues that humans
    evolved to become natural runners.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From our spring-loaded ligaments to our muscular behinds to our


    ability

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to sweat, the human body took the ideal shape of a long-distance


    runner

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    starting some 2 million years ago, the researchers say. The long,


    lean

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    build helped us scavenge widely scattered kills and could also have
    been an advantage when hunting down prey over long distances.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Top Stories

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    * Microsoft Launches Portable TV Service
    * RadioYourWay Great for Radio Junkies
    * Wireless Device Can Monitor Patients

    Quoted message said:
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    "We're lousy sprinters, but we're really great long-distance


    runners,"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    said Daniel Lieberman, an anthropologist at Harvard University.


    "Anyone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who jogs regularly can tell you that it feels good."

    How can two legs be better than four when it comes to striding for


    long

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    distances? Consider the fact that some 334,000 people ran marathons


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the United States last year, and then try getting an antelope to


    run 26

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    miles, or a chimp, for that matter.

    "You'd never beat a chimp in a 100-meter dash, but you could never


    get

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them to run a marathon," he said. "And they wouldn't like trying."

    Evolutionary biologists have generally credited humans' ability to


    run

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    as an offshoot of our ability to walk on two feet.

    "How can anyone even conceive of an animal evolving a walking


    strategy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that was entirely decoupled from a running strategy?" asks C. Owen
    Lovejoy of Kent State University in Kent, Ohio.

    But in a study appearing in this week's issue of "Nature,"


    Harvard's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lieberman and Dennis Bramble of the University of Utah argue that
    endurance running may have been so critical in early humans'


    survival

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that it played a role in shaping many aspects of our bodies.

    Runners From Head to Toe

    The pair studied both modern human anatomy and the fossil record of
    early human ancestors to look for characteristics that would have
    specifically enhanced people's ability to run for long distances.


    They

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    say most, if not all of these key features seem to have emerged 2
    million years ago with the first appearances of the genus [censored] -


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same group as modern living humans.

    The peroneus brevis tendon, for example, made famous by Red Sox


    pitcher

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Curt Schilling's injury during the 2004 World Series, is one of


    several

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    elongated tendons in the human body that the authors argue provides
    critical spring as a person runs. In apes and chimpanzees, the same
    tendons are much shorter, says Lieberman, and don't offer the same


    kind

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of spring-loading action.

    Then there is the gluteus maximus - the unusually large muscle


    humans

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    carry at their rear. Why such bulk in back? Lieberman says it's for
    running and, again, this feature is less pronounced in our


    evolutionary

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ancestors.

    "When we walk, we barely use the gluteus maximus," he said. "As


    soon as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you start running, it plays a vital role to keep you from falling -
    it stabilizes your trunk."

    Other features the authors list that help us run include the arches


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    our feet, which offer spring in our step, and broad surface areas


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    our joints, which help distribute the shock of impact from running


    -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    at least enough for ancient man, who didn't run on pavement and who
    never lived much longer than 40 years.

    The upper body, meanwhile, carries its own made-for-running


    designs,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    including wide shoulders - good for swinging arms from for balance


    as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we stride - and lighter forearms that are easy to move back and
    forth. Even our heads are equipped for running, they say, as a


    large

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ligament stretching from our spines to the back of our heads acts


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dampen the oscillation of our heads as we plod along.

    Finally, our ability to sweat is unmatched with our estimated 3


    million

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sweat glands. Couple that with the fact that we aren't very furry


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you have a cool, running machine.

    Jogging for Supper

    Bernd Heinrich, a world record holder in the ultra marathon and
    biologist at the University of Vermont in Burlington, says the


    authors'

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    points make sense.

    "Most of us don't do much running so it may not feel natural, but


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    feels natural to me," he said. "Not much is new here, but I think


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bring together a lot of evidence so it all fits into a pattern."

    Quoted message said:

    I'll stick to bicycling thank you.. So much easier on the joints and


    soft

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    tissues. I was a runner when I was younger and loved it. I just


    don't

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    think it is good to continue the damage for too long.

    Rene,

    Good point.

    I think the keys though are good shoes, running on a "soft" surface,
    and keeping your body weight down. So I make sure to replace my shoes
    about every year, I run on a treadmill with a "flex deck" for all my
    race prep, and for me I like to keep my weight at about 165 for my 5'9"
    frame.

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    Now, on the other hand, Kenyans seem to be built to run. They are


    awesome!

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    Of the very few that I have seen in person, they have wonderful skin,


    great

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    skeletal structure, beautiful teeth (this is all very important to


    Weston A.

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    Price followers). Has anyone ever studied what the diet of their


    country

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    is? I have no idea about longevity, CVD, cancer, etc., for Kenya.


    They

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    just seem to radiate good health. I suppose the few I have seen


    might not

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    truly represent the majority though.

    I think they also benefit from high-elevation training, right? It
    would be interesting to study their habit. It's also interesting to
    look at some of the best ulta runners, people who run for distances
    further than 26 miles (some go for over 200 miles). The Kenyans don't
    have a lock on these types of races. One of the current best at this
    type of running is a 41 year old American who's only 5'9"/155 lbs.

    Patrick

    Patrick

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