Journalist form Mars

zapper said:

I never had a yellow truck I think that may have been jhuskey or someone else...I remember it though. My only other icon was the downtube to that bike...It is my pride and joy.....

Well never mind then. Nice icon.

zapper said:

You mean you actually read that epistle? You must be bored 🙄

Yes I read it, in its entirety. My "leftist" father introduced me to Chomsky years ago. I have also read Cornell West.

lokstah said:

Well never mind then. Nice icon.

ok thanks...like the bike much better than the icon...If it means anything, one of my brothers drives a truck... 😄

davidmc said:

Yes I read it, in its entirety. My "leftist" father introduced me to Chomsky years ago. I have also read Cornell West.

You keep reading propoganda and I'll keep livin!

zapper said:

Actually quoted relevant information in SMALL DOSES can be useful as long it is followed up by original thought and interpretation which can be used for useful debate.

However, posting a novel of some leftwing nutjobs propaganda is really useless.

You got the point. I doubt others will.

zapper said:

You keep reading propoganda and I'll keep livin!

touché, although one must look for info. outside of the mainstream if one wants to be abreast of impli/ramifications of current events. Not to crack open an old-chestnut but-Iraq had WMD, for example, is beleived by a majority of the American populace. This is propoganda on a grand scale not rivalled except by that country in WWII who fought Soviet Union. Who was it 😕 oh yeah-Germany

davidmc said:

touché, although one must look for info. outside of the mainstream if one wants to be abreast of impli/ramifications of current events. Not to crack open an old-chestnut but-Iraq had WMD for example is beleived by a majority of the American populace. This is propoganda on a grand scale not rivalled except by that country in WWII who fought Soviet Union. Oh yeah-Germany

By that I take it that you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Iraq did/does not have WMD's somewhere? In other words you would be willing to bet some of your doggy years that they never had nor do not have somewhere today WMD's?

davidmc said:

touché, although one must look for info. outside of the mainstream if one wants to be abreast of impli/ramifications of current events. Not to crack open an old-chestnut but-Iraq had WMD for example is beleived by a majority of the American populace. This is propoganda on a grand scale not rivalled except by that country in WWII who fought Soviet Union. Oh yeah-Germany

That propaganda was also being put out during the Clinton administration. Bush wasn't the first to believe and tell people that they did have them.

Colorado Ryder said:

That propaganda was also being put out during the Clinton administration. Bush wasn't the first to believe and tell people that they did have them.

Ah, thats what berger had stuffed in his socks... :eek:

Weisse Luft said:

[yawn]...great way to manage spelling errors[/yawn] 😄

I do not believe I made any grammar mistakes. You think you are so fekin' cute don't you? You actually took the time to find that picture. Why don't you spell check it for me and post the errors I made, if any.

Co. Ryder, zapper, from what I understand you did not bother to read it. If you have not even read it yet than how could you say its propaganda? In fact, the article is about propaganda. When I make accusations like that I usually listen, or read what ever it is. Then I form my own opinion. I’m sick of that arrogant [censored]. I read the book in it's entirety the other night, in one sitting. I thought it was an easy read, I read it in an hour & a half. It was only 100 pages long though, a short book.

ryan_velo. said:

Co. Ryder, zapper, from what I understand you did not bother to read it. If you have not even read it yet than how could you say its propaganda? In fact, the article is about propaganda. When I make accusations like that I usually listen, or read what ever it is. Then I form my own opinion. I’m sick of that arrogant [censored]. I read the book in it's entirety the other night, in one sitting. I thought it was an easy read, I read it in an hour & a half. It was only 100 pages long though, a short book.

Why read it? I already know exactly what Chomsky will say. If you formed your own opinion then you could have summarized and put your own thoughts in with it. Go back to ranting. Those post were interesting to read.

Colorado Ryder said:

Why read it? I already know exactly what Chomsky will say. If you formed your own opinion then you could have summarized and put your own thoughts in with it. Go back to ranting. Those post were interesting to read.

Then I want you to tell me exactly what Chomsky said. The reason I posted it in it’s entirety, is that I wanted you guys to read it just like Chomsky wrote it. I was then hoping that you guys would actually read it, so we could discuss it like normal people. Unlike what you and zapper are up to. That does take up a lot of space though, I guess I should have done a link instead? Any way I want you to tell me exactly what Chomsky had to say, since you already know. Or you could read it and we could discuss it? Maybe I could have done a summary, too late now, just drop it.

Colorado Ryder said:

That propaganda was also being put out during the Clinton administration. Bush wasn't the first to believe and tell people that they did have them.

This is true but, Clinton did not have a political axe to grind as did bush inre:SH. Seen the latest recruitment short-falls 😕 Bush Jr. admitted his reason for going to war after it was learned that the bulk of info was either false or manufactured. Bush said-"He tried to kill my daddy". If he has a beef w/ SH then challenge him to a boxing match like at Harvard (bush's alumni) don't throw 1500 lower to middle-class boys into a "meat grinder" 😠 (Iraq). Thats why I am for the draft/National Service so that the upper-income boys will have to go & serve in Iraq. Bush will lose all of his freinds/buisiness buddies 😉 but his God will think kindly of the gesture, I would suspect. 🙂

davidmc said:

This is true but, Clinton did not have a political axe to grind as did bush inre:SH. Seen the latest recruitment short-falls 😕 Bush Jr. admitted his reason for going to war after it was learned that the bulk of info was either false or manufactured. Bush said-"He tried to kill my daddy". If he has a beef w/ SH then challenge him to a boxing match like at Harvard (bush's alumni) don't throw 1500 lower to middle-class boys into a "meat grinder" 😠 (Iraq). Thats why I am for the draft/National Service so that the upper-income boys will have to go & serve in Iraq. Bush will lose all of his freinds/buisiness buddies 😉 but his God will think kindly of the gesture, I would suspect. 🙂

Good stuff. "boxing match" that's great🙂

davidmc said:

This is true but, Clinton did not have a political axe to grind as did bush inre:SH. Seen the latest recruitment short-falls 😕 Bush Jr. admitted his reason for going to war after it was learned that the bulk of info was either false or manufactured. Bush said-"He tried to kill my daddy". If he has a beef w/ SH then challenge him to a boxing match like at Harvard (bush's alumni) don't throw 1500 lower to middle-class boys into a "meat grinder" 😠 (Iraq). Thats why I am for the draft/National Service so that the upper-income boys will have to go & serve in Iraq. Bush will lose all of his freinds/buisiness buddies 😉 but his God will think kindly of the gesture, I would suspect. 🙂

I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad tidings on some parts of the draft issue. The same thing will happen as happened before re Vietnam. The wealthy ones will set up camp in Europe, thus avoiding the situation.

FredC said:

I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad tidings on some parts of the draft issue. The same thing will happen as happened before re Vietnam. The wealthy ones will set up camp in Europe, thus avoiding the situation.

I'll be happy to ship the vermin right back to the draft board if it comes down to that. 🙂

FredC said:

I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad tidings on some parts of the draft issue. The same thing will happen as happened before re Vietnam. The wealthy ones will set up camp in Europe, thus avoiding the situation.

Good, let the scumbags run-away. They'll be branded for life as "sissies". Conscientious Objector is one thing but "priveledged rich-boy" is another 😠

ryan_velo. said:

Co. Ryder, zapper, from what I understand you did not bother to read it. If you have not even read it yet than how could you say its propaganda? In fact, the article is about propaganda. When I make accusations like that I usually listen, or read what ever it is. Then I form my own opinion. I’m sick of that arrogant [censored]. I read the book in it's entirety the other night, in one sitting. I thought it was an easy read, I read it in an hour & a half. It was only 100 pages long though, a short book.

Hey pin head, if you are sick of arrogant [censored], then you might refrain from reading Chomsky’s [censored]. But to clue you in, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to determine that this piece of [censored] you posted was propaganda…Aside from the obvious leanings of the author, “splain” this one to us.. Why did he skip the Clinton years? I mean you actually read this [censored] and formed an opinion with a missing decade? Oh, and I’m sure it was an easy read for it was everything you hoped it would be..big surprise! You have the right to your opinion but a little original though goes a long way….

Anyway, sorry Dilbert, I’m not buyin…

davidmc said:

This is true but, Clinton did not have a political axe to grind as did bush inre:SH. Seen the latest recruitment short-falls 😕 Bush Jr. admitted his reason for going to war after it was learned that the bulk of info was either false or manufactured. Bush said-"He tried to kill my daddy". If he has a beef w/ SH then challenge him to a boxing match like at Harvard (bush's alumni) don't throw 1500 lower to middle-class boys into a "meat grinder" 😠 (Iraq). Thats why I am for the draft/National Service so that the upper-income boys will have to go & serve in Iraq. Bush will lose all of his freinds/buisiness buddies 😉 but his God will think kindly of the gesture, I would suspect. 🙂

So it is ok that Clinton put out the same propaganda? That means Clinton was using the same false or manufactured info?