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Rolling mount on a Coker

bugman · 2005-04-10T00:36:02+00:00

After riding 23 miles recently, I am realizing the potential usefulness of roll mounting a Coker. When I get tired, and my legs feel like noodles, a regular mount is exhausting. I use way too much energy, and miss way too many mounts. This is really made harder due to my lack of height. I can do a rolling mount on a 20 inch no problem, and haven't really tried on my Muni since it has 170's. I already looked at Andrew Carters site, and it didn't have this mount for a Coker, only for smaller wheels. I realize it will take practice, but I am not really sure about # of steps, seat placement, pedal position etc... Your help would be greatly appreciated. -- bugman - Survivor 2004 Wolfman Duathalon -* [ F O N T = c e n t u r y g o t h i c ] ' H e l p C u r e D i a b e t e s b y S u p p o r t i n g M y R i d e ' ( h t t p : / / t i n y u r l . c o m / 6 8 m k v ) [ / F O N T ] * - *Fund Raising Honor Roll* Kathy Susanka ------------------------------------------------------------------------ bugman's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3812 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/39516

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bugman
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10 April 2005, 00:36 UTC #1

After riding 23 miles recently, I am realizing the potential usefulness
of roll mounting a Coker. When I get tired, and my legs feel like
noodles, a regular mount is exhausting. I use way too much energy, and
miss way too many mounts. This is really made harder due to my lack of
height.
I can do a rolling mount on a 20 inch no problem, and haven't really
tried on my Muni since it has 170's.
I already looked at Andrew Carters site, and it didn't have this mount
for a Coker, only for smaller wheels.
I realize it will take practice, but I am not really sure about # of
steps, seat placement, pedal position etc...
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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munipsycho
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10 April 2005, 01:06 UTC #2

John Drummond of www.unicycle.com showed me once. I think I put the
pedals at 12 and 6, pushed, and stepped onto the rear pedal around 7-8
on the up-swing, and rode up onto the seat.
That said, I only did it once or twice, and that was a while ago. (And
I don't remember exactly how or when the front foot got placed.)
(Maybe you could get John to diagram it though. He's very helpful.)
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bugman
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10 April 2005, 01:20 UTC #3

Back from the Beach? Did you have a good time?
I have watched a couple of people do it including John, all before I had
a Coker. I didn't pay too close atention. Guess I should have. That
reminds me though that the introductory video from unicycle.com may have
him and Roger Davies mounting. I'll have to look for it.
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johnfoss
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10 April 2005, 01:27 UTC #4

Before I got my Coker, I had a 45" wheel for 20 years. Rolling mount all
the way. It may not be a strict rolling mount, as the wheel doesn't roll
while you're jumping on.
1. Walk forward, rolling the uni in front of you.
2. As your dominant pedal comes up in the rear, jump up with some
forward momentum, stepping onto the pedal when it's at the horizontal
point or a little before (not after).
3. Your goal is to end up on top of the wheel with just enough momentum
to take you past the top (without this you can't go anywhere).
4. As you come up over the top, start pedaling. When done right, you
start with the forward momentum of your walking. The wheel more or less
stops while you jump up, but your body continues the forward momentum
the whole time.
5. Repeat until it gets easy.
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munipsycho
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10 April 2005, 01:38 UTC #5

bugman said:
*Back from the Beach? Did you have a good time? *
Wunderbar! Kids had a blast.
Stephanie (7 yrs old) did a long Uni ride on the b*ke path along the
beach. She really loves the attention she gets when she rides. It
proved a great motivator. Her free mounts are improving, as is her
general technique.
The ocean was great, too. ;-)
Want to MUni early Sunday? (I'm unavailable all next week.)
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bugman
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10 April 2005, 02:04 UTC #6

Normally, yes to the early morning Muni. I have a termite job at 9am,
and will be there at least 5 hours.
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U-Turn
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10 April 2005, 02:16 UTC #7

Beautiful description, John. That will help me out. Thanks!
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john_childs
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10 April 2005, 23:52 UTC #8

goldenchicken said:
*This is the first skill I have to train in order to get rid of.
Wonder if there will be any more? *
The graceful dismount skill can take some work to unlearn. You'll find
that you have to push yourself more by doing more difficult skills and
more aggressive riding to avoid doing a graceful dismount. 🙂
I usually use the same style of mount that John Foss describes. I like
to call it a forward momentum mount rather than a rolling mount because
it is not a true rolling mount. But a forward momentum mount is not a
regular name for a mount so if you call it a forward momentum mount no
one knows what you're talking about. A catch 22. So I end up calling
it a rolling mount.
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unicyclepa
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11 April 2005, 00:36 UTC #9

I just went out and tryed this mount it only took a few mins than i got
it. i just jumped when my domint pedal was strate down and landed on it
when i was leval back towards me. love this mount espachaly for the
coker
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mikepenton
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11 April 2005, 08:19 UTC #10

another Coker mount that I find even easier is grabbing the front wheel
& pulling yourself up on it. It sounded bizzare when Roger told me about
it but I nailed it 2nd time. I alternate between this and the rolling
mount (using the latter more when the tyre's muddy!)
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loosejello
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11 April 2005, 12:55 UTC #11

I just call it the running mount.
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GILD
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11 April 2005, 15:55 UTC #12

john_childs said:
* because it is not a true rolling mount.*

what's the difference john?
the couple of times i tried the mount under discussion, i found it
easier to get the mounting pedal in the position i wanted it to be when
i launched into the mount and then took three strides back
i'm sure with practise it becomes possible to know when u'll have the
jump, the foot and the pedal all perfectly synchronised without having
to measure it out, but at first i'd like to suggest this as a good way
of preventing 'this' (http://tinyurl.com/6ofqo)
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harper
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11 April 2005, 16:15 UTC #13

I like the rolling jump mount. Roll the wheel to the 3 o'clock 9 o'clock
pedal positions and jump mount while walking. Land both pedals at the
same time. This mount actually requires very little energy, can be done
easily while going uphill, and looks cool. I can't remember the last
time I missed one.
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bugman
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11 April 2005, 16:34 UTC #14

harper said:
*I like the rolling jump mount. Roll the wheel to the 3 o'clock 9
o'clock pedal positions and jump mount while walking. Land both pedals
at the same time. This mount actually requires very little energy, can
be done easily while going uphill, and looks cool. I can't remember
the last time I missed one. *
I'd love to see some video of that mount. I imagine jumping onto a
Coker for you is similiar to me jump mounting a 24 inch. Tall people
have a little advantage mounting the Coker.
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harper
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11 April 2005, 17:13 UTC #15

bugman said:
* Tall people have a little advantage mounting the Coker. *
Is that because we put the seatpost up higher? All anyone would have to
be able to do is jump up about the radius of the wheel to do this mount.
That's where the pedal is.
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U-Turn
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11 April 2005, 17:53 UTC #16

harper said:
*Is that because we put the seatpost up higher? All anyone would have
to be able to do is jump up about the radius of the wheel to do this
mount. That's where the pedal is. *

With respect, that's like saying if you can jump up on a rock holding a
unicycle, you should be able to jump up on the rock while riding the
unicycle. My observations of a bunch of riders say that there are
significant advantages to being taller when mounting larger wheels.
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harper
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11 April 2005, 21:09 UTC #17

U-Turn said:
*With respect, that's like saying if you can jump up on a rock holding
a unicycle, you should be able to jump up on the rock while riding the
unicycle. My observations of a bunch of riders say that there are
significant advantages to being taller when mounting larger wheels. *
Dave-
You have sense enough not to respect me. You've met me before and know
I'm a bozo.
That said, all that is required to jump mount a unicycle with a properly
set seat is that the rider must be able to jump high enough to get his
feet on the pedals or, roughly the radius of the wheel. In the limit of
an extremely short rider (let's say a 6" leprechaun) that would be 3
times the height of the rider to get onto that Coker. Quite a feat
indeed. Quite an exaggeration, too.
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11 April 2005, 21:58 UTC #18

harper said:
*Dave-
You have sense enough not to respect me. You've met me before and know
I'm a bozo.
*

Greg Harper is obviously well aware of the Law of Inverse
Proportionality of Bozoness, and wields it like a 5th Musketeer.
Nothing but respect here...
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11 April 2005, 22:40 UTC #19

john_childs said:
*The graceful dismount skill can take some work to unlearn. You'll
find that you have to push yourself more by doing more difficult
skills and more aggressive riding to avoid doing a graceful dismount.*
Sometimes I cheat and make graceful UPDs ...
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11 April 2005, 22:43 UTC #20

mikepenton said:
*another Coker mount that I find even easier is grabbing the front
wheel & pulling yourself up on it. *
So you haven't lost yours yet?
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