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  1. I am a vegetarian (i.e. don't eat fish!) and I would like to make sure
    that my family get enough Omega 3 fatty acids in their diet. I have some
    linseeds which contain 23g of alpha linolenic acid per 100g. I have
    soaked some in water and mixed the resulting rather slimy liquid with
    fruit juice, and my children have drunk it quite happily. I also add
    some linseeds to the dough when baking bread.

    How much ALA should our diet include? How much is extracted from the
    seeds by soaking?

    Thanks in advance,

    - guy
    --
    Remove the obvious to reply.

  2. Guy Snape said:

    I am a vegetarian (i.e. don't eat fish!) and I would like to make
    sure that my family get enough Omega 3 fatty acids in their diet.
    I have some linseeds which contain 23g of alpha linolenic acid
    per 100g.

    Ick .. when there is so much more to choose from ...

    A primer on fats:
    http://www.udoerasmus.com/FAQ.htm

    http://freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/d/omega3_and_omega6/
    "Alpha-Linolenic acid (LNA) or Omega 3 is found in abundance in hemp
    seed, flax seed, pumpkin seed, walnuts, dark green leaves, canola,
    soybean and cold water fish.
    Linoleic acid (LA) or Omega 6 is found in abundance in safflower, hemp,
    soybean, walnut, pumpkin, sesame, corn, sunflower and flax."

    Other seed oils:
    http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/fatspercent.html

    joni

  3. Guy Snape wrote:
    :: I am a vegetarian (i.e. don't eat fish!) and I would like to make
    :: sure that my family get enough Omega 3 fatty acids in their diet. I
    :: have some linseeds which contain 23g of alpha linolenic acid per
    :: 100g. I have soaked some in water and mixed the resulting rather
    :: slimy liquid with fruit juice, and my children have drunk it quite
    :: happily. I also add some linseeds to the dough when baking bread.
    ::
    :: How much ALA should our diet include? How much is extracted from the
    :: seeds by soaking?

    Especially children should not use too much of linseed as they can produce
    some toxic substances. "Toxicity: Possible. Linamarin, as a result of the
    action of linase enzyme, produces cyanogenetic glycosides. To avoid them it
    is advised to eat the seeds whole or to carry out cold infusions or to boil
    them at least during 10 minutes. Big quantities of this plant should not be
    ingested. Many investigators consider that the quantity of glycosides that
    can be liberated is not big enough as to be toxic."

    http://www.botanical-online.com/alcaloideslinumangles.htm

    It might be a good idea to include some other omega-3 fatty acid sources to
    the diet also and not to rely solely on linseed.

    It is not likely that your body will produce enough/ideal amount of long
    chain omega-3 fatty acids (especially DHA) from (alpha)linolenic acid as the
    elongation is inefficient. Consider supplementing with direct sources of EPA
    and/or DHA. There are also algae derived DHA capsules available but they are
    more expensive than fish oil capsules.

    --
    Juhana

  4. Juhana Harju said:

    It is not likely that your body will produce enough/ideal amount of long
    chain omega-3 fatty acids (especially DHA) from (alpha)linolenic acid as the
    elongation is inefficient. Consider supplementing with direct sources of EPA
    and/or DHA. There are also algae derived DHA capsules available but they are
    more expensive than fish oil capsules.

    Often the inefficient elongation is the result of too much omega-6,
    oleic acid and Mead acid in diet. All these competes for elongases and
    omega-6 competes for the desaturases too.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Often the inefficient elongation is the result of too much omega-6,
    oleic acid and Mead acid in diet. All these competes for elongases and
    omega-6 competes for the desaturases too.

    Isn't mead acid a marker for this as well?
    I remember something about it being a product of oleic acid by use of the
    elongase/desaturase systems instead of the w3/w6 FA.

  6. MMu said:
    Quoted message said:

    Often the inefficient elongation is the result of too much omega-6,
    oleic acid and Mead acid in diet. All these competes for elongases and
    omega-6 competes for the desaturases too.

    Isn't mead acid a marker for this as well?
    I remember something about it being a product of oleic acid by use of the
    elongase/desaturase systems instead of the w3/w6 FA.

    Yes.
    When EFA is not ingested, Mead acid (C20:3 omega-9) is formed. It is
    because we don't have the desaturases that could have formed the
    omega-6 and omega-3 double bounds.
    C18:1 -> C18:2(omega-9)->C20:2(omega-9)->C20:3(omega-9)

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