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Shaft drive bicycles for commuting? Also, the B.U.B.

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  1. In my search for a commuter bicycle I came across this bicycle:

    "hammacher.com16136.asp"

    It has the Nexus 7 speed hub which would be good for what I am planning to use the bike for.

    I can get it for $442, (along with a $25 coupon for future purchases from this company).

    I think that it's the aluminum alloy version of the

    I was also interested in the upcoming Momovelo
    B.U.B., Berkeley Universal Bicycle, especially the Cheeseboard model:

    "momovelo.combub.html"

    BTW, I found a web page dedicated to commuter bicycles at:

    "members.101freeway.comcommuter bicycles.htm"

  2. (Steven Scharf) said:

    BTW, I found a web page dedicated to commuter bicycles at:

    "members.101freeway.comcommuter bicycles.htm"

    After you eliminate all the ones with shocks, and all the ones that don't have seven gears, and all
    the ones that have handle bars lower than the seat, and the ones not sold in the US, and the ones
    without fenders and chain guards, you are left with just a few.

    The chain on my Batavus is 100% enclosed in a plastic chain guard. So I'm not sure just what
    advantage a chainless drive shaft would have.

    Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

  3. In article said:
    (Steven Scharf) said:

    BTW, I found a web page dedicated to commuter bicycles at:

    "members.101freeway.comcommuter bicycles.htm"

    The chain on my Batavus is 100% enclosed in a plastic chain guard. So I'm not sure just what
    advantage a chainless drive shaft would have.

    You don't have to change the chain periodically. You never have to adjust the chain tension.

    Shaft costs weight, but it's even less maintenance-intensive than an enclosed chain.

    Used to own a shaft-drive motorcycle,
    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] sfu.ca~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

  4. Ryan Cousineau said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Don Wiss <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The chain on my Batavus is 100% enclosed in a plastic chain guard. So I'm not sure just what
    advantage a chainless drive shaft would have.

    You don't have to change the chain periodically. You never have to adjust the chain tension.

    Fully enclosed bicycle chains have very little maintenance issues, though. With the essentially
    single speed nature of the crank/chain/cog, the system can deal with a *lot* of wear before being a
    problem, as well as lack of chain tension. I regularly see bikes here that have lost their
    chaincases (it's a student town..), and quite often the chain is a link or three to five too long
    (probably from stretch), heavily rusted, and at least a decade old. Works fine, though. Ones that
    have kept their chaincases (typically a sure sign of not-entirely-incompetent-service (as in
    tyre/tube changing etc.) throughout its life) work even better.

    It seems to me that the single-speed style cogs, with the really tall rounded off teeth (derailer
    cogs typically have teeth reaching about to the midpoint of the rollers, single speed cogs go about
    to the top of the rollers), wear much less with worn chains as well.

    I wonder if shaft drive will do as well after two decades of neglect and being left out in the
    acid/salty rain, plus with the extreme nonstandardness of the parts, if you do have to do some
    maintenance it might not even be possible.

    Jasper

  5. In article said:
    In article said:
    (Steven Scharf) said:

    BTW, I found a web page dedicated to commuter bicycles at:

    "members.101freeway.comcommuter bicycles.htm"

    The chain on my Batavus is 100% enclosed in a plastic chain guard. So I'm not sure just what
    advantage a chainless drive shaft would have.

    You don't have to change the chain periodically. You never have to adjust the chain tension.

    Shaft costs weight, but it's even less maintenance-intensive than an enclosed chain.

    Used to own a shaft-drive motorcycle,

    Them motorcycles have to handle a lot more power than a bicycle chain. Motorcycle chains wear out
    fast and are a general pain if you're touring, so shaft drive makes sense. I don't see the gain
    for bicycles.

  6. Don Wiss donwiss@no_spam.com said:

    The chain on my Batavus is 100% enclosed in a plastic chain guard. So I'm not sure just what
    advantage a chainless drive shaft would have.

    You get the novelty of a feeling like riding through porridge :-)

    Guy
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    notice: ADSL service in process of transfer to a new ISP. Obviously there will be a week of downtime
    between the engineer removing the BT service and the same engineer connecting the same equipment on
    the same line in the same exchange and billing it to the new ISP.

  7. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Don Wiss donwiss@no_spam.com said:

    The chain on my Batavus is 100% enclosed in a plastic chain guard. So I'm not sure just what
    advantage a chainless drive shaft would have.

    You get the novelty of a feeling like riding through porridge :-)

    The only advantage is really the price. I can get the shaft drive bike for about $420, while a
    Breezer will be $650. However I have pretty much decided to get the Breezer. I have to go up to one
    of REI's that sell them so I can at least get the dividend, or I may wait for one of REI's periodic
    "10% off any one item in the store" deals.

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