Broken Collarbone Precedent - Simon in 1983

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Pascal Simon took the Yellow Jersey in the Pyrenees in 1983 after a fabulous stage won
by...Delgado I belive who pioneered "power downhill racing". Anyway Simon broke his collar bone a
few days later and suffered like a madman. I think he went so far as to race the ITT up the Puy de
Dome a horrible climb with 20% slopes...If memory serves he gave up the next day leaving Fignon in
the lead.

Simon didn't break his collar bone, but his shoulder blade. He gave up two days after the ITT up the
Puy de Dome, in the stage to Alpe d'Huez. A real precedent is Fiorenzo Magni in the Giro of 1956. He
finished 2d with a broken collar bone. Because his left arm was more or less out of use, he had made
some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike with his mouth. Another example of
courage beyond the call of duty: the Italian Drei who in the Tour of 1948 finished 99th at 7'07" in
the stage to La Rochelle with a broken thighbone.

Benjo Maso

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Simon didn't break his collar bone, but his shoulder blade. He gave up two days after the ITT up
the Puy de Dome, in the stage to Alpe d'Huez. A real precedent is Fiorenzo Magni in the Giro of
1956. He finished 2d with a broken collar bone. Because his left arm was more or less out of use,
he had made some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike with his mouth. Another
example of courage beyond the call of duty: the Italian Drei who in the Tour of 1948 finished 99th
at 7'07" in the stage to La Rochelle with a broken thighbone.

Benjo Maso

Okay, shoulderblade, fine. Neck brace, sure, I understand. Collarbone, scary, but it has been done.

Thighbone?!? Thighbone?!? How? I mean, most people can't walk with a broken leg bone, and this guy
is riding the Tour without a working femur???

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Simon didn't break his collar bone, but his shoulder blade. He gave up

two

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days after the ITT up the Puy de Dome, in the stage to Alpe d'Huez. A

real

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precedent is Fiorenzo Magni in the Giro of 1956. He finished 2d with a broken collar bone.
Because his left arm was more or less out of use, he

had

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made some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike with

his

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mouth. Another example of courage beyond the call of duty: the Italian

Drei

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who in the Tour of 1948 finished 99th at 7'07" in the stage to La

Rochelle

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with a broken thighbone.

Benjo Maso

Okay, shoulderblade, fine. Neck brace, sure, I understand. Collarbone, scary, but it has
been done.

Thighbone?!? Thighbone?!? How? I mean, most people can't walk with a broken leg bone, and this guy
is riding the Tour without a working femur???

Hairline fractures. The bone hasn't separated yet.

Jack Youngblood (defensive lineman, LA Rams) once played nearly an entire game with a broken femur.

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Pascal Simon took the Yellow Jersey in the Pyrenees in 1983 after a fabulous stage won
by...Delgado I belive who pioneered "power downhill racing". Anyway Simon broke his collar bone
a few days later and suffered like a madman. I think he went so far as to race the ITT up the
Puy de Dome a horrible climb with 20% slopes...If memory serves he gave up the next day leaving
Fignon in the lead.

Simon didn't break his collar bone, but his shoulder blade. He gave up two days after the ITT up
the Puy de Dome, in the stage to Alpe d'Huez. A real precedent is Fiorenzo Magni in the Giro of
1956. He finished 2d with a broken collar bone. Because his left arm was more or less out of use,
he had made some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike with his mouth.
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This is the classic picture showing Magni in the 1956 Giro:
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Does anyone know of a better version of this image?

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Simon didn't break his collar bone, but his shoulder blade. He

gave up two

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days after the ITT up the Puy de Dome, in the stage to Alpe

d'Huez. A real

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precedent is Fiorenzo Magni in the Giro of 1956. He finished 2d

with a

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broken collar bone. Because his left arm was more or less out of

use, he had

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made some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike

with his

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mouth. Benjo Maso

This is the classic picture showing Magni in the 1956 Giro:

geocities.comgiromagni1956.jpgOpen ↗

Wow. I'd seen that picture before but didn't understand what it was about. That's nutty and
brilliant.

On a much-lower scale, a teammate of mine won a stage of the Killington stage race (masters race)
with a broken hip. It was a hairline fracture he got the day before.

JT

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"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Because his left arm was more or less out of

use, he had

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made some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike

with his

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mouth.

This is the classic picture showing Magni in the 1956 Giro:

geocities.comgiromagni1956.jpgOpen ↗

Wow. I'd seen that picture before but didn't understand what it was about. That's nutty and
brilliant.

IIRC, about 12 years ago Bicycling did an April Fools piece claiming the next greatest thing was
going to be a mouthpiece like this to steer with. You kept your arms behind your back to be more
aero. I think they had Animal (Paul Pearson) as the subject for the photos.

"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Simon didn't break his collar bone, but his shoulder blade. He gave up

two

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days after the ITT up the Puy de Dome, in the stage to Alpe d'Huez. A

real

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precedent is Fiorenzo Magni in the Giro of 1956. He finished 2d with a broken collar bone.
Because his left arm was more or less out of use, he

had

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made some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike with

his

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mouth. Another example of courage beyond the call of duty: the Italian

Drei

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who in the Tour of 1948 finished 99th at 7'07" in the stage to La

Rochelle

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with a broken thighbone.

Benjo Maso

Okay, shoulderblade, fine. Neck brace, sure, I understand. Collarbone, scary, but it has
been done.

Thighbone?!? Thighbone?!? How? I mean, most people can't walk with a broken leg bone, and this guy
is riding the Tour without a working femur???

To ride a bicycle you only need one leg ... For instance, in the stage Lausanne-Mulhouse (1948)
the Italian Vittorio Seghezzi rode 80 km long with only one pedal (and finished 26 minutes behind
the peloton).

Benjo Maso

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IIRC, about 12 years ago Bicycling did an April Fools piece claiming

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Carl, you admit to reading that magazine?

Ryan Cousineau said:

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Thighbone?!? Thighbone?!? How? I mean, most people can't walk with a broken leg bone, and this guy
is riding the Tour without a working femur???

i know it doesn't match when considering the duration of the event, but i still think k. strug's
vault in the 1996 olympics was pretty hardcore. i like this quote from her- "It was somewhat a
matter of pride. I didn't want to be remembered for falling on my butt on my last vault in the
Olympics."

heather

Kurgan Gringioni said:

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Simon didn't break his collar bone, but his shoulder blade. He gave up

two

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days after the ITT up the Puy de Dome, in the stage to Alpe d'Huez. A

real

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precedent is Fiorenzo Magni in the Giro of 1956. He finished 2d with a broken collar bone.
Because his left arm was more or less out of use, he

had

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made some kind of construction at his handlebars to steer his bike with

his

Quoted message said:

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mouth. Another example of courage beyond the call of duty: the Italian

Drei

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who in the Tour of 1948 finished 99th at 7'07" in the stage to La

Rochelle

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with a broken thighbone.

Benjo Maso

Okay, shoulderblade, fine. Neck brace, sure, I understand. Collarbone, scary, but it has
been done.

Thighbone?!? Thighbone?!? How? I mean, most people can't walk with a broken leg bone, and this
guy is riding the Tour without a working femur???

Hairline fractures. The bone hasn't separated yet.

Jack Youngblood (defensive lineman, LA Rams) once played nearly an entire game with a
broken femur.

I have heard reliably that fracturing a femur can cause major, probably
life-threatening bleeding.

Steve

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IIRC, about 12 years ago Bicycling did an April Fools piece claiming

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Carl, you admit to reading that magazine?

I admit to knowing Paul Pearson.

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I was completely amazed when she managed to stick the landing clean on

one

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leg. That's definitely one of those olympic moments to remember. Bill C

Is Rebecca lost in rec. bike.racing's collective memory?

If you mean when she slammed into someone on the track in 1995 prior to worlds, then your
answer is no.

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I was completely amazed when she managed to stick the landing clean

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leg. That's definitely one of those olympic moments to remember. Bill C

Is Rebecca lost in rec. bike.racing's collective memory?

If you mean when she slammed into someone on the track in 1995 prior to worlds, then your
answer is no.

I think the key to medaling at the Worlds or the Olympics is to break your collarbone just a week or
two beforehand, thus forcing you to do a proper taper. ;-)

Andy Coggan