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Tim Lines said:

From UW, by chance? That's where I got mine.

i went to western. when i was in high school my favorite teacher ever
told me that he thought western seemed like a good school for me, so
that's the only place i applied 😉

but i thought you had a degree in economics, or do you have several? (so
now it's- running a marathon, the fed, inline skating, only bathing
occasionally, lattes&[censored], and math degrees- we have in common, if you
were keeping track)

heather

Tom Kunich said:

By the way Heather, as proof that sometimes things work out well for you - I
wanted to be a mechanic. Instead I'm an electronics engineer that makes
about twice what a full time dealership mechanic makes.

We had a tugboat captain and a couple of his crew as members of the yacht
club I belong to. One night he had to dodge some nut in a small boat, the
tow overran the boat, capsized it and everyone was lost.

Anthropology is a [censored] to get into, but when you find your place in life it
ain't a bad one at all. Give him all of my best wishes for him and you.

Tom

you're nice, and i don't want you to worry! i feel like i have it quite
good, compared to both the past and the people i see around me every
day. i do think it's funny that parents can be so adamant that their
children succeed that they end up pushing them off the track. my brother
who is 8 years younger than me didn't have any pressure to become some
kind of professional. he dropped out of high school and my dad got him a
job for awhile at "the factory" quite literally. then he got married and
he and his wife went off to college on their own motivation. she's
becoming a vet and he's starting law school. soon he will be living the
life of luxury, just like lafferty...but if he starts posting obsessive
LANCE musings on rbr i promise to smack him in the head for y'all.

heather

Robert Chung said:

This is a story for pre-schoolers.

yikes! i'm assuming it's a french thing. i hope your wife told you this
story and not your children.
h

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h squared said:

Robert Chung said:

This is a story for pre-schoolers.

yikes! i'm assuming it's a french thing. i hope your wife told you this
story and not your children.
h

It doesn't seem all that far off what the Brothers Grimm wrote.

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tanx,
Howard

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Howard Kveck said:

It doesn't seem all that far off what the Brothers Grimm wrote.

http://herve.flores.online.fr/V-illus/liens/chevre.html

Howard Kveck said:

It doesn't seem all that far off what the Brothers Grimm wrote.

i agree that fairy tales often are quite horrible. the difference to me
being most of them have the protagonist struggle using their talents,
etc, to come out on top in the end.

i have in a book the version (which happens to be french, hmmm) of
little red riding hood where this doesn't happen- the wolf simply eats
the grandma and l.r.r.h. but when the grimm brothers "covered" this
story, they gave it a happier ending-

"Some school boards in the U.S. have been pressured to blacklist this
fairy tale because of its "overtly" sexual content. Yet the Grimms
consciously made their tale more innocent and less erotic than earlier
versions. They also restored a "happy ending," which true folktales
always have. An earlier, more literary French version left Little Red in
the Wolf's stomach - the better to scare you with its moral!

Contrary to popular ideas, the Grimm Brothers did not simply write down
the exact words of an oral storyteller. They conflated their tale from
three sources: a French tale, "Le petit chaperon rouge," published by
Charles Perrault in 1697; the single oral version they could find,
collected from a well-educated French Huguenot woman named Jeanette
Hassenpflug, who probably also knew Perrault's tale; and a play, "Leben
und Tod des kleinen Rotkäppchens: eine Tragödie," written in 1800 by the
German Romantic writer Ludwig Tieck. Tieck invented the hunter who
rescues Rotkäppchen and her grandmother from the Wolf. "
http://mld.ursinus.edu/Maerchen/rrhintro.html

heather
"Never again will you stray from the path by yourself and go into the
forest when your mother has forbidden it"

h squared said:

i have in a book the version (which happens to be french, hmmm) of
little red riding hood where this doesn't happen- the wolf simply eats
the grandma and l.r.r.h.

http://chaperon.rouge.online.fr/perraultfr.htm

Quoted message said:

"Some school boards in the U.S. have been pressured to blacklist this
fairy tale because of its "overtly" sexual content. Yet the Grimms
consciously made their tale more innocent and less erotic than earlier
versions.

Peau d'Ane is pretty weird, involving incest and a donkey that [censored] gold.
It's another Perrault tale. The Grimms retold it is as Allerleirauh.
Catherine Deneuve played Peau d'Ane in the filmed version.

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Quoted message said:

This is a story for pre-schoolers.

What about "La Boum"?

That's a story for dirty old men.

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h squared said:

Howard Kveck said:

It doesn't seem all that far off what the Brothers Grimm wrote.

i agree that fairy tales often are quite horrible. the difference to me
being most of them have the protagonist struggle using their talents,
etc, to come out on top in the end.

i have in a book the version (which happens to be french, hmmm) of
little red riding hood where this doesn't happen- the wolf simply eats
the grandma and l.r.r.h. but when the grimm brothers "covered" this
story, they gave it a happier ending-

Then there's: http://tinyurl.com/96ov2

Quoted message said:

"Some school boards in the U.S. have been pressured to blacklist this
fairy tale because of its "overtly" sexual content. Yet the Grimms
consciously made their tale more innocent and less erotic than earlier
versions. They also restored a "happy ending," which true folktales
always have. An earlier, more literary French version left Little Red in
the Wolf's stomach - the better to scare you with its moral!

Contrary to popular ideas, the Grimm Brothers did not simply write down
the exact words of an oral storyteller. They conflated their tale from
three sources: a French tale, "Le petit chaperon rouge," published by
Charles Perrault in 1697; the single oral version they could find,
collected from a well-educated French Huguenot woman named Jeanette
Hassenpflug, who probably also knew Perrault's tale; and a play, "Leben
und Tod des kleinen Rotkäppchens: eine Tragödie," written in 1800 by the
German Romantic writer Ludwig Tieck. Tieck invented the hunter who
rescues Rotkäppchen and her grandmother from the Wolf. "
http://mld.ursinus.edu/Maerchen/rrhintro.html

From that:

"The Grimms also offered an alternative ending ("Es wird auch
erzahlt..." ), which depicts the grandmother - not as a helpless victim -
but as a capable, clever woman who saves herself and her granddaughter from
the Wolf without any help from men.

"This second ending resembles, at least in spirit, the original Italian
oral version, in which a woman (in this case Little Red) shows mastery, not
helplessness and naiveté, when she encounters "the wild" (see Italo
Calvino's "The False Grandmother" ["la finta nonna"] - see also "Il lupo e
le tre ragazze" or "The Wolf and the Three Girls"😉. Some scholars
hypothesize that over the centuries the "Little Red Riding Hood" tale was
altered by men to play down and perhaps suppress women's capabilities and
independence."

I guess that stuff is on the special features section of the DVD...

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Quoted message said:

Tom Kunich said:

The reason that it wouldn't go up is because the health care benefit is
now taxed and so workers aren't going to be happy paying full price
what they get for 30% off now.

So you're saying your solution involves raising taxes on workers?

Absolutely! Medical insurance is presently an untaxed income. That gives
workers an unfair advantage in the insurance game. You HAVE to put everyone
on an equal footing.

Tim Lines said:

h squared said:

so
instead i went to college and got a math degree.

Quoted message said:

From UW, by chance? That's where I got mine.

What a coincidence. Who do you deliver food for?

Bob Schwartz
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Quoted message said:

What about "La Boum"?

Robert Chung said:

That's a story for dirty old men.

Now if you said dirty fat old men, you could have told it to rbr.

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Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

h squared said:

Howard Kveck said:

It doesn't seem all that far off what the Brothers Grimm wrote.

i agree that fairy tales often are quite horrible. the difference to me
being most of them have the protagonist struggle using their talents,
etc, to come out on top in the end.

i have in a book the version (which happens to be french, hmmm) of
little red riding hood where this doesn't happen- the wolf simply eats
the grandma and l.r.r.h. but when the grimm brothers "covered" this
story, they gave it a happier ending-

Then there's: http://tinyurl.com/96ov2

Quoted message said:

"Some school boards in the U.S. have been pressured to blacklist this
fairy tale because of its "overtly" sexual content. Yet the Grimms
consciously made their tale more innocent and less erotic than earlier
versions. They also restored a "happy ending," which true folktales
always have. An earlier, more literary French version left Little Red in
the Wolf's stomach - the better to scare you with its moral!

Contrary to popular ideas, the Grimm Brothers did not simply write down
the exact words of an oral storyteller. They conflated their tale from
three sources: a French tale, "Le petit chaperon rouge," published by
Charles Perrault in 1697; the single oral version they could find,
collected from a well-educated French Huguenot woman named Jeanette
Hassenpflug, who probably also knew Perrault's tale; and a play, "Leben
und Tod des kleinen Rotkäppchens: eine Tragödie," written in 1800 by the
German Romantic writer Ludwig Tieck. Tieck invented the hunter who
rescues Rotkäppchen and her grandmother from the Wolf. "
http://mld.ursinus.edu/Maerchen/rrhintro.html

From that:

"The Grimms also offered an alternative ending ("Es wird auch
erzahlt..." ), which depicts the grandmother - not as a helpless victim -
but as a capable, clever woman who saves herself and her granddaughter from
the Wolf without any help from men.

"This second ending resembles, at least in spirit, the original Italian
oral version, in which a woman (in this case Little Red) shows mastery, not
helplessness and naiveté, when she encounters "the wild" (see Italo
Calvino's "The False Grandmother" ["la finta nonna"] - see also "Il lupo e
le tre ragazze" or "The Wolf and the Three Girls"😉. Some scholars
hypothesize that over the centuries the "Little Red Riding Hood" tale was
altered by men to play down and perhaps suppress women's capabilities and
independence."

<...>
Hello. "Freeway" [1996], movie. Stunning take on the LRRH legend.
No excuses. No moralizing. Characters etched on my brain.

--
Michael Press

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Michael Press said:

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Howard Kveck <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Then there's: http://tinyurl.com/96ov2

Quoted message said:

Hello. "Freeway" [1996], movie. Stunning take on the LRRH legend.
No excuses. No moralizing. Characters etched on my brain.

Yep. See the above link...

"You shoulda let me out of the car when I asked you to, Bob. You see
what happens when ya got bad manners?"

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

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