no pain, no gain?

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usaims said:

I've been reading the threads concerning soreness and there are mixed
opinion--after all, this is a public newsgroup :-)
My questions is, I'm still sore after 72 hours of an intense workout of
squats and deadlifts. I go to failure because I love doing legs! Can
this be normal, I've been lifting for about 3 years straight. No doubt,
there has been significant gains in muscle mass and I'm able to go
heavier everyweek. But I'm SORE, man! So sore that it hurts to sit on a
toilet seat. Pains goes away on the fourth day, and the soreness
doesn't affect my sleeping. I drink lots of water, take glutamine
everyday. Can a experienced PT offer input please?

usaims

First off, stop wasting money on the glutamine.

Second, DOMs won't really go away over time as long as you consistently
challenge your muscles, which it sounds like you are.

As long as it's just muscle soreness, it's normal. Diet and vitamin C
can help a bit.

Otherwise, that's life after squats, really.

Can you offer your opinion on "wasting your money on glutamine"? I'm
anxious and curious on what will turn up in this thread.

In article <[email hidden]>,

usaims said:

Can you offer your opinion on "wasting your money on glutamine"? I'm
anxious and curious on what will turn up in this thread.

It's been done a million times (the discussion, at least).

If you feel you're getting results from it, go for it.

I've tried it several times for long durations with no results, so it's
my opinion it didn't help me. I get plenty from other sources,
including the whey isolate I use.

Don't want to start an argument about it, as every has his own opinion
on it, as with anything else in exercise routines and diets.

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My questions is, I'm still sore after 72 hours of an intense workout of
squats and deadlifts. I go to failure because I love doing legs! Can

I am curious how do you go failure on squat? Do do you unload the barbell?

-FJ

usaims said:

I'm still sore after 72 hours of an intense workout of squats and deadlifts.

if my workout lasted 72 hours I'd be pretty sore too

--
Jock

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Second, DOMs won't really go away over time as long as you consistently
challenge your muscles, which it sounds like you are.

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What means "DOM?"

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In article <[email hidden]>,
stencil <[email hidden]> writes:
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Quoted message said:

Second, DOMs won't really go away over time as long as you consistently
challenge your muscles, which it sounds like you are.

[snip]

What means "DOM?"

DOMS.

Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness. May appear 2 - 3 days after
a work out - especially if the routine was substantially
changed, so muscles are being worked in ways that they aren't
used to.

Art

Going to failure on squats for me means, barely finishing a rep in GOOD
FORM. I see many people go to failure but they are doing it at the risk
of getting an injury such as jeopardizing good form to get that last
rep. When I go heavy on squats, I use the smith machine because it
gives me that sense of confidence because should I not finish the rep,
I can hang the barbell full of weights on one of those stoppers on the
side of the machine.

"usaims" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Going to failure on squats for me means, barely finishing a rep in GOOD
FORM. I see many people go to failure but they are doing it at the risk
of getting an injury such as jeopardizing good form to get that last
rep. When I go heavy on squats, I use the smith machine because it
gives me that sense of confidence because should I not finish the rep,
I can hang the barbell full of weights on one of those stoppers on the
side of the machine.

Now, if only you were actually doing squats, rather than smithmachinesquats,
this might be relevant.

David

usaims said:

I've been reading the threads concerning soreness and there are mixed
opinion--after all, this is a public newsgroup :-)
My questions is, I'm still sore after 72 hours of an intense workout of
squats and deadlifts. I go to failure because I love doing legs! Can
this be normal, I've been lifting for about 3 years straight. No doubt,
there has been significant gains in muscle mass and I'm able to go
heavier everyweek. But I'm SORE, man! So sore that it hurts to sit on a
toilet seat. Pains goes away on the fourth day, and the soreness
doesn't affect my sleeping. I drink lots of water, take glutamine
everyday. Can a experienced PT offer input please?

Try eating more protein and complex carbs.

--Blair
"Your muscles are starving."

usaims said:

I've been reading the threads concerning soreness and there are mixed
opinion--after all, this is a public newsgroup :-)
My questions is, I'm still sore after 72 hours of an intense workout
of squats and deadlifts. I go to failure because I love doing legs!
Can this be normal, I've been lifting for about 3 years straight. No
doubt, there has been significant gains in muscle mass and I'm able
to go heavier everyweek. But I'm SORE, man! So sore that it hurts to
sit on a toilet seat. Pains goes away on the fourth day, and the
soreness doesn't affect my sleeping. I drink lots of water, take
glutamine everyday. Can a experienced PT offer input please?

usaims

My guess is that the pain you feel is from the smith machine ripping your
body apart when you start going heavy. try some free squats in a power rack
instead and you'll probably feel a lot better afterwards.
I never experience any DOMS unless I've taken a week or more off from
lifting.

But then again I'm not a PT so you probably won't listen to this.

--
Perre
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