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    Ken
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    "HP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hi, I have an 80'ish Team Fuji road bike that I'm using to commute to
    school. A spoke on the freewheel side broke, and I had to get the
    freewheel off to put in a replacement. The freewheel takes a 4-prong
    SunTour removal tool, which I had. Anyway, I put on the extractor,
    screwed
    on the QR lever, and tried it with a 12" crescent, and it wouldn't budge.
    Tried it some more, and 2 of the 4 prongs broke. Then I took the thing to
    a neighbor's house and mounted it on a vise and tried again. The 3rd
    prong
    broke.

    So I went down to a LBS to see if they have any tricks, and they said the
    only thing left to do is to disassemble the freewheel and take out the
    cogs, then clamp on the body to remove it. Didn't have a center punch, so
    I tried with some flatbladed screwdriver to get the outer ring of the
    freewheel to turn, but it just ate the screwdrivers. Anyway, I'm starting
    to think that getting this thing apart is more trouble than it's worth,
    and
    since the wheel isn't that great a shape any more, I thought about getting
    a new set of wheels.

    I checked on Nashbar and they have a wheelset for $75. It said that it
    has a 130mm spacing (using 8-9 spd Shimano cassette). I don't know of the
    specs on my bike (early to mid-80 Fuji), so I'm not sure if it will fit.
    I'm not even sure what the measurement is exactly, for the dropout width
    or
    the wheel or what. Can anyone give some info on the bike I have, or some
    advice on either upgrading the wheel or to get the doggone freewheel off?
    Thanks in advance for any help.

    HP

    Well let us assume that the Fuji is a steel frame bike. If the spacing for
    the new Nashbar wheels is wider than what your current wheels are, you can
    always cold set the frame Take a look here:
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html

    Cold setting is pretty easy I have used this method on a couple of older
    steel frames.

    Ken

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  2. botfood
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    front hub should be the same 100mm.... you really don't have to do
    anything fancy to get a typical 130mm current hub into 126mm.... you
    just 'stretch' the chainstays and jam it in....

    d

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  3. Email address hidden
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    HP,

    A couple things to make this easier hopefully:

    * Did you go crazy with the Liquid Wrench before trying to remove the
    freewheel? Spray it in from the BACK of the freewheel, get it all over
    the threads on the hub if possible, then let it soak for an hour or
    two, then put a new, unworn tool in a vise and give it a shot.
    Freewheels are a PAIN to unscrew, one good reason that cassettes have
    taken over...

    * Don't worry about the frame spacing if it's a steel frame. You don't
    HAVE to cold set your frame. You can just put the 130 mm wheel in a
    126 mm frame, by squeezing the dropouts open a little bit. This is not
    dangerous, especially on a steel frame. The only disadvantage is that
    it will take a few seconds more to get the rear wheel in and out. I
    researched this extensively for my touring bike. I'm currently using a
    130 mm wheel in 126 mm dropouts, and it works just fine.

    * If you're on a tight budget, maybe you should just buy a new hub and
    cassette and rebuild the wheel with the current spokes and rims
    (assuming they're okay). I did my first wheel build like this, and it
    was a lot easier than I expected. And the wheel has held up fine.
    Nashbar sells a Shimano Sora freehub for $15, their nine speed
    cassettes are around $20 and have worked fine for me.

    Dan

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  4. Zoot Katz
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    Sat, 28 May 2005 17:44:34 -0700,
    <[email hidden]>,

    HP said:

    May be I should just try to get the dang freewheel off and get a new
    freewheel.

    Last time I had to do that I used a hardened nail (powder actuated
    fastener) to drive around the freewheel cone. Remember to turn it
    clockwise as it's a left-hand thread.

    It's very satisfying to destroy a freewheel after it's caused you so
    much grief. Persist and prevail.
    --
    zk

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  5. Tom Keats
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    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Zoot Katz said:

    It's very satisfying to destroy a freewheel after it's caused you so
    much grief.

    Especially if it's one of those freewheel-remover-destroying
    old SunTours.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  6. Zoot Katz
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    Sat, 28 May 2005 18:41:22 -0700, <[email hidden]>,

    (Tom Keats) said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's very satisfying to destroy a freewheel after it's caused you so
    much grief.

    Especially if it's one of those freewheel-remover-destroying
    old SunTours.

    Is there any other kind of Sun Tour freewheel?
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    zk

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  7. Tom Keats
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    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Zoot Katz said:

    Sat, 28 May 2005 18:41:22 -0700, <[email hidden]>,

    (Tom Keats) said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's very satisfying to destroy a freewheel after it's caused you so
    much grief.

    Especially if it's one of those freewheel-remover-destroying
    old SunTours.

    Is there any other kind of Sun Tour freewheel?

    No. The only difference is the number of prongs on
    the removal tool that get rent asunder.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  8. David L. Johnson
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    HP said:

    May be I should just try to get the dang freewheel off and get a new
    freewheel. Cheaper,

    Well, the tool will be a few bucks, and the freewheel probably $25. Still
    need a new spoke. Getting close to the cost of the new wheels,
    cost/benefit-wise. But the $75 wheels will not come with a cassette.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
    _`\(,_ | certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to
    (_)/ (_) | reality. -- Albert Einstein

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  9. Zoot Katz
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    Mon, 30 May 2005 19:18:26 -0700,
    <[email hidden]>,

    HP said:

    What is meant by "use a lever to bend the spokes around each
    other where they cross"? I think it's some sort of flexing the spokes at
    the crossing points, but I don't know what kind of action he's using the
    lever for.

    Push down on the upper spoke while the lower one is being levered up.
    --
    zk

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