Beer, bottle or can?

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Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

Yes

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Dimitri

I suppose a duel is out of the question? 🙂

Cathy - who is loading her weapons.... i.e empty beer cans 😉

Many of the Mexican beers have a very strong german heritage.

Dimitri

Dos Equis
This famous brand with its double X label was created in 1897 by German
immigrant brewer Wilhelm Hasse. Dos Equis Amber first arrived on these shores in
1973 and the brewery also offers a lighter golden Special Lager, in the German
pilsner style. Sold in 12-ounce bottles, it's one of the few Mexican brews you
may find on tap around here. Find it in many Mexican restaurants.

Bohemia
With a name like that, some might expect a German brew. And while this beer is
Mexican in heritage (first made in the early 20th century), the pilsner style
certainly traces its roots to old Europe. Many German or Austrian brewers found
their way to Mexico in the 19th or 20th centuries, leaving a legacy that we
still enjoy today.

Bill said:

Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

NO!

I remember before there was canned beer... in those days bottled beer
was considered [censored]. The mechchanics of the actual can has evolved far
more positively than what it contains, and not just beer, most
everything. Ever since the wooden barrel was replaced with metal there
has been no decent beer anywhere on the planet... very few have ever
tasted good beer, they're much too young... any beer from a stainless
steel vat is [censored], ANY BEER. These days folks guzzle beer soley to
emulate/exploit delusional brand hype and to get drunk, quality/flavor
doesn't enter into the equation. Taste is always accquired, but yoose
can only accquire what you're exposed to... hasn't been any decent beer
now for some 50 years, unless you make your own, and in wood.

Sheldon

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Boddingtons can be found in the keg in the U.S. and is quite good and is
near the Manchester quality. Boddingtons in the can is also very good. I
have never seen it in a can.

Would you like to rephrase this, or is it really just supposition? ;-)

Cheers, Phred.

Hee, hee! Well, I did say I was drinking beer at the time. That should have
been "I have never seen it in a bottle." Cor!

Charlie

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The thing that makes both of these canned beers outstanding is the
multi-million dollar development of the "widget" (which is a Guinness
trademark) in the can. It does contain nitrogen as do the feed lines of
the
Guinness keg. It allows the remarkable freshness of the beer in the cans.
As
Guinness expanded, other beers gained the technology. I assume that
Guinness
(or its new corporate partners) has licensed the use of the widget as I
have
seen it in Murphy's Stout (nasty, unless you are a Corkman), and Beamish
Stout (very nice indeed and also from Cork).

I am a big fan of Beamish -- there is a place in Wilmington DE called
"liquor world" -- a supermarket with nothing but beer, wine and spirits.
Worth a shopping excursion... and fun explaining to the state troopers on
the way home.

BTW... I tried cooking some Ox Tails in Guinness -- I had to use a ton of it
as it boiled down continuously... but the flavor of the final product was
awesome!

My dad always used a pressure cooker, but I dare not put any beer into that
device. I like having a roof on my house too much!

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Somebody says that Guinnes is a good canned beer, too, but I don't like
black beers.

Oh, superstitious, eh?

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Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:

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Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
(I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can
at parties...

Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium 🙂
Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?

You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a hollow
ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it. When
you open the can (or relatively 'flat'😉 beer, the escaping nitrogen give a
fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
carbonated beers.

Shaun aRe

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Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:

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Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
(I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can
at parties...

Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium 🙂
Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?

You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a hollow
ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it. When
you open the can (or relatively 'flat'😉 beer, the escaping nitrogen give a
fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
carbonated beers.

What a pro... and not just sweaty monkey balls. hehe

Sheldon

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Bill said:

Is there such a thing as a good beer in a can?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

agree

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All decent beer comes in bottles. Also its NOT made by any company with the
initials A and B.

There are good regional beers still made by regional bottlers that are quite
good, unfortunately getting them some times can be a pain.

Yes, there is an award winning regional brewer a few towns over. The
brewery has been operating for something like 150 years. They only
bottle the better beers that they make. The better beers are also
*real*. They don't have the enhancers, stablilizers or preservatives
featured in many beers.

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You want REAL Budweiser? Look for Czechvar made by the Budvar Brewery in
Czechoslovakia. This is THE REAL KING OF BEERS! A certain american company has
been after them over the name for years.

CANS and BEER do not agree.

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Mi e' parso che dwacon abbia scritto:

> Some of the Brit imports like Guinness and Stoddington's
> (I think -- it's in the yellow and black can) have the
> little rattle-ball that supposedly has nitrogen or
> something that makes the beer fresh... or so the
> advertising hype says. It's still fun to rattle the can
> at parties...

Hey, if you shake a beer can and just open it, it should spray
half or more of its contents around, a-la Formula 1 podium 🙂
Is Guinnes less sparkling than other beers? Or is this
rattle-ball so well designed to prevent it?

You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

hollow

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ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it.

When

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you open the can (or relatively 'flat'😉 beer, the escaping nitrogen give

a

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fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
carbonated beers.

What a pro... and not just sweaty monkey balls. hehe

Sheldon

But I turned down your offer of free lessons...

Shaun aRe

: You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a hollow
: ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it. When
: you open the can (or relatively 'flat'😉 beer, the escaping nitrogen give a
: fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
: carbonated beers.

It's not a ball. It's a round disk.

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: You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

hollow

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: ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it.

When

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: you open the can (or relatively 'flat'😉 beer, the escaping nitrogen give

a

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: fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
: carbonated beers.

It's not a ball. It's a round disk.

It used to be a disk; it's a ball in the Guinness cans now.

kili

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Shaun aRe wrote:
: You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

hollow

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: ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in it.

When

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: you open the can (or relatively 'flat'😉 beer, the escaping nitrogen give

a

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: fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced by
: carbonated beers.

It's not a ball. It's a round disk.

There are several variations on the theme, but the majority I have seen
lately are indeed a *ball* - looks like a miniature table tennis ball, with
some little indentations at one point near the seam. IIRC the indents are
staggered and that where the tiny pin holes are, pointing in the same
direction at different points, possibly with the idea that the ball will
spin as the nitrogen is ejected, scattering the tiny, creamy bubbles
throughout the beer. Others are indeed discs (first few I saw) about 4 or so
mm thick, indeed. Maybe you're still getting our early, old versions over
there? ',;~P'''

Shaun aRe

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: You don't shake the beer, but the empty can rattles - it contains a

hollow

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: ball filled with nitrogen, that has one or two tiny perforations in

it.

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When

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: you open the can (or relatively 'flat'😉 beer, the escaping nitrogen

give

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a

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: fine beaded creamy head, quite unlike the large bubbled one produced

by

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: carbonated beers.

It's not a ball. It's a round disk.

It used to be a disk; it's a ball in the Guinness cans now.

kili

Indeed. Like I said, he must be getting really old stock over there still
LOL! ',;~}~

Shaun aRe