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  1. "Enrico C" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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    I don't understand why on earth the American Heart Association web site
    recommends:

    "Use margarine as a substitute for butter...".

    even if

    "In clinical studies, trans fatty acids or hydrogenated fats tend to raise
    total blood cholesterol levels and LDL ("bad"😉 cholesterol and lower HDL
    ("good"😉 cholesterol when used instead of cis fatty acids or natural oils.
    These changes may increase the risk of heart disease."

    you you aware that butter contains trans fats as well?

    Quoted message said:


    Why don't they just recommend olive oil instead of butter (in most cases)?

    because olive oil and honey doesn't go so well on your breakfast bread.

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    Here is the complete AHA recommendation I am referring to.

    http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4776

    =========
    Trans Fatty Acids, Butter and Margarine

    Is butter better than margarine?

    Studies on the potential cholesterol-raising effects of trans fatty acids
    have raised public concern about using margarine and whether other
    options,
    such as using butter (despite its high level of saturated fat and
    cholesterol), might be better choices. Some stick margarines contribute
    more trans fatty acids than unhydrogenated (HI'dro-jen-a-tid or
    hi-DROJ'en-a-tid) oils or other fats.

    While studies have shown that using margarine can lower LDL ("bad"😉
    cholesterol when compared with butter, trans fatty acids can raise LDL and
    lower HLD ("good"😉 cholesterol.

    AHA Recommendation

    Butter is rich in both saturated fat and cholesterol, so it's potentially
    highly atherogenic (ATH'er-o-JEN'ik). That means it contributes to the
    build up of cholesterol and other substances in artery walls. Such plaque
    deposits increase the risk of heart attack and stroke.

    Most margarine is made from vegetable fat and provides no dietary
    cholesterol. The more liquid the margarine (in tub or liquid form), the
    less hydrogenated it is and the less trans fatty acids it contains. On the
    basis of current data, we recommend that consumers follow these tips:

    * Use naturally occurring, unhydrogenated oil such as canola or olive
    oil when possible.
    * Look for processed foods made with unhydrogenated oil rather than
    hydrogenated oil or saturated fat.
    * Use margarine as a substitute for butter, and choose soft (liquid or
    tub) margarines over harder, stick forms. Use margarine with no more than
    2
    grams of saturated fat per tablespoon and with liquid vegetable oil as the
    first ingredient.

    The American Heart Association's Nutrition Committee strongly advises that
    healthy Americans over age 2 limit their intake of saturated fat and trans
    fat to less than 10 percent of total calories. Healthy people should
    adjust
    their total fat intake to match their energy expenditure so they don't
    gain
    weight. To lose weight, it's helpful to limit total fat to no more than
    30
    percent of calories.

    Minimize trans fat intake. If you limit your daily intake of fats and oils
    to 5-8 teaspoons, you aren't likely to get an excess of trans fatty acids.
    The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is requiring that food
    manufacturers
    list trans fat on food labels so it will be easier for consumers to avoid
    trans fats. Manufacturers have until January 1, 2006 to comply.

    What are fatty acids?

    Fats and oils are mixtures of fatty acids. Each fat or oil is designated
    "saturated," "monounsaturated" or "polyunsaturated," depending on what
    type
    of fatty acid predominates.

    * Saturated fatty acids have all the hydrogen the carbon atoms can
    hold. Saturated fats are usually solid at room temperature, and they're
    more stable -- that is, they don't combine readily with oxygen and turn
    rancid. Saturated fatty acids raise blood cholesterol, which raises the
    risk of coronary heart disease and stroke.

    * Monounsaturated fatty acids have only one unsaturated bond.
    Monounsaturated oils are liquid at room temperature but start to solidify
    at refrigerator temperatures. For example, salad dressing containing olive
    oil turns cloudy when refrigerated but is clear at room temperature.
    Monounsaturated fatty acids seem to lower blood cholesterol when
    substituted for saturated fats.

    * Polyunsaturated fatty acids have more than one unsaturated bond.
    Polyunsaturated oils, which contain mostly polyunsaturated fatty acids,
    are
    liquid at room temperature and in the refrigerator. They easily combine
    with oxygen in the air to become rancid. Polyunsaturated fatty acids help
    lower total blood cholesterol when substituted for saturated fats.

    In addition, dietary cholesterol found in animal fats also raises total
    blood cholesterol and LDL ("bad"😉 cholesterol.

    What are trans fatty acids and where do they come from?

    A fatty acid molecule consists of a chain of carbon atoms in carbon-carbon
    double bonds with hydrogen atoms "attached." In nature most unsaturated
    fatty acids are cis fatty acids. This means that the hydrogen atoms are on
    the same side of the double carbon bond. In trans fatty acids the two
    hydrogen atoms are on opposite sides of the double bond.

    Trans double bonds can occur in nature as the result of fermentation in
    grazing animals. People eat them in the form of meat and dairy products.

    Trans double bonds are also formed during the hydrogenation
    (hi"dro-jen-A'shun or hi-DROJ'en-a"shun) of either vegetable or fish oils.
    French fries, donuts, cookies, chips and other snack foods are high in
    trans fatty acids. In fact, nearly all fried or baked goods have some
    trans
    fats.

    How does hydrogenation create trans fatty acids?

    To help foods stay fresh on the shelf or to get a solid fat product, such
    as margarine, food manufacturers hydrogenate polyunsaturated oils.
    Hydrogenate means to add hydrogen.

    How are trans fatty acids harmful?

    In clinical studies, trans fatty acids or hydrogenated fats tend to raise
    total blood cholesterol levels and LDL ("bad"😉 cholesterol and lower HDL
    ("good"😉 cholesterol when used instead of cis fatty acids or natural oils.
    These changes may increase the risk of heart disease. It's not clear if
    trans fats that occur naturally have the same effect on cholesterol and
    heart disease as those produced by hydrogenating vegetable oils.

    ======

  2. On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:20:58 +0200, MMu wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why don't they just recommend olive oil instead of butter (in most cases)?

    because olive oil and honey doesn't go so well on your breakfast bread.

    I know. 🙂
    That's why I added "in most cases". I was just thinking of that.

    I doubt spreads taste as good as butter though.
    On bread, I prefer a smaller amount of the real thing, butter.
    Then, I don't eat bread and butter everyday.

    With all other foods, I use uncooked olive oil.

    What strikes me is that AHA doesn't even mention olive oil.

    And they don't mention nichel in margarines.

    --
    Enrico C
    ==================================

  3. MMu wrote:
    :: "Enrico C" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    :: news:[email hidden]...

    ::: Why don't they just recommend olive oil instead of butter (in most
    ::: cases)?
    :::
    :: because olive oil and honey doesn't go so well on your breakfast
    :: bread.

    Actually it is a cultural thing - what you get used to. In most of the
    Mediterranean countries people manages amazingly well even without margarine
    or butter. They use mostly olive oil with bread.

    --
    Juhana

  4. Enrico C <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:20:58 +0200, MMu wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why don't they just recommend olive oil instead of butter (in most cases)?

    because olive oil and honey doesn't go so well on your breakfast bread.

    I know. 🙂
    That's why I added "in most cases". I was just thinking of that.

    I doubt spreads taste as good as butter though.
    On bread, I prefer a smaller amount of the real thing, butter.
    Then, I don't eat bread and butter everyday.

    With all other foods, I use uncooked olive oil.

    What strikes me is that AHA doesn't even mention olive oil.

    And they don't mention nichel in margarines.

    Unbelievable commentary.
    --
    Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA [email hidden]

  5. On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:46:07 GMT, Jim Chinnis wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    [...snip...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And they don't mention nichel in margarines.

    Unbelievable commentary.

    Don't industries use nickel or other metals in fat hydrogenation?

    --
    Enrico C
    ==================================

  6. MMu said:

    you you aware that butter contains trans fats as well?

    Are literature agreeing about CLA is very unhealthful (the transfat in
    butter)

  7. "Alf Christophersen" <[email hidden]> schrieb im
    Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MMu said:

    you you aware that butter contains trans fats as well?

    Are literature agreeing about CLA is very unhealthful (the transfat in
    butter)

    is this a question whether CLA is a problem? your sentence is hard to
    interpret but in any case:
    cla is not the only trans fat in butter.

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