On Mon 20 Jun 2005 04:05:05p, Sheldon wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Quoted message said:Wayne Boatwright said:On Mon 20 Jun 2005 02:33:39p, Curly Sue wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Quoted message said:On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:21:23 GMT, "Dimitri" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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>"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Dimitri wrote:
>>> "Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>>> Aside from the other comments, I live in a very hard water area.
>>> Occasionally
>>> there is enough build-up on the glasses in spite of the softened
>>> water and the jet dry I will do the following: pack the
>>> dishwasher with every glass I own -
>>> put the washer on rinse and hold and add a quart of vinegar as the
>>> unit is filling. (you can also use some CLR but follow the
>>> instructions carefully.
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>> I hope you mean every *cheapo* glass you own --
>
>Yep - the Target or Dansk "El Cheepo" dispodable sets. 12 for $15.00
>or thereabouts. I usually buy 2 sets for the cupboard and a spare to
>cover the eventual breakage.
>
>>good glassware and
>> especially crystal should never go in the dishwasher even under
>> normal circumstances. If you've been running your good glassware
>> through the dishwasher it's no wonder it looks like it's coated
>> with mineral deposits, you've already etched it and gave minerals a
>> good surface to adhere to -- vinegar is an acid -- and even though
>> it removes the mineral deposits each time you use it the glass is
>> etched further, just makes the situation worse. Good glassware
>> deserves careful hand washing... same is true of all good
>> dinnerware, serving pieces, flatware, cutlery, even your good
>> cookware. I use my dishwasher only for my cheapo every day things,
>> never for my company stuff.
>
>Same here - even the "semi good dishes" are washed by hand with the
>sterling and the cryatal.
You have more energy than I do :>
I am fortunate not to have good and semi-good dishes and cutlery.
It's just so relaxing knowing that I don't have the burden and
responsibility of taking care of good stuff. Should I ever be able
to afford crystal, china, silver and other items requiring
handwashing -which is looking like a long shot at this point in my
life- it would only happen if I could also afford a maid to take
care of it, because I surely won't.
Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
We don't use our "good stuff" often enough to worry about it. I wash
the good china, crystal, and sterling silver in the DW, but I always
hand dry it rather than let spots form in the drying cycle.
That doesn't make sense... I don't use my "good stuff" very often and
that is the reason why I *do* treat them with care, so I'll still have
them for thsoe few times. I have two decent sets of dinnerware,
Mikasa, and Apilco (each service for 12 with all the accessory pieces),
not museum quality Rosenthal by a long shot, they didn't cost a fortune
but enough that I feel it's worth the effort on the few occasions I use
them to wash them by hand, otherwise they'd quickly become part of my
everyday dishes, a conglomeration of odd mismatched and chipped pieces
from just about every cheapo set I've acquired over some 45 years plus
lots of oddballs of the tag sale genre.... by last count no more than
three pieces of any one pattern match. A couple of years ago, when I
moved here, I finally decided I deserved to have nice dinnerware for
serving guests, plus no one really ever bought my fercocktah excuse
when I appologized for being eclectic, and neither did I. I also
purchased two sets of fine quality stainless flatware, those get washed
by hand too. The few times I use my "good stuff", perhaps once a
month, I don't use all twelve settings anyway, in fact the most
settings I've used at one time during the past two years was six.... I
quickly rinse everything and stack it at the far end of the counter,
I'll hand wash everything the next morning.
It may not make any sense to you, but it does to us. We actually have 4
sets of good china (3 inherited), Wedgewood, Royal Crown Derby, Bing &
Grondahl, and a very old handpainted set from Hungary. I have my
grandmother's sterling silver and my mother's Orrefors crystal. We hand
wash only the Hungarian china because it's extremely delicate. On the few
occasions that we use any of the other china and the silver and crystal, I
can find no reason to not use the dishwasher. It's expedient, safe on a
gentle cycle, and we hand dry each piece. I'm more likely to chip a piece
of the china or crystal if I'm handling it in the sink.
Quoted message said:Actually my favorite everyday dishes are paper plates... so I don't
really use so many dishes that the few I accumulate each day I can't
wash by hand. Were it not for my now having six cats I'd go back to
never using the dishwasher, mostly it's their dishes and bowls I wash
in the machine. I run my dishwasher about every 4-5 days.
Everything used in our kitchen for cooking and our everyday dishes and
flatware and dishes for our 5 cats are washed in the dishwasher and we run
at least 1 cycle per day if not 2. I've been doing this for at least 35
years and I see no reason to change what works.
We have no paper plates. If we serve food outside we use Fiestaware and
stainless steel flatware. I do buy paper plates and plastic utensils if
we go to the lake or the mountains for a picnic. Friends take home extra
food in Gladware.
--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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