A Rebel (in her own mind)

The Ranger said:

[I posted this prior but it seems appropriate with the topic being
discussed again. -- TR]

Being conservative, I'm often shocked at what people will do to their
bodies in order to show how anti-establishment they are. Case in point:
Once upon a time, a young lady in front of me ordered a hot soy milk
drink. (YUCK!)

At some point, she was quite pretty -- I'm sure -- but with all that's
been pinned, painted, and pulled that's now a moot. I'm not sure if
"Goth" is in anymore but the dress was very similar -- black (spandex,
leather, cotton). She'd pinned herself in some very visible and some not
so visible places (but it was cold outside). A triad of steel pins
protruded from the lower lip to just above the chin. Two diamonds were
pinned through the right nostril. A steel horseshoe was run through the
nose ridge between her eyes. Two diamond studs replaced her eyebrows.
Her ears had also been pieced multiple times. There were, uh, two other
noticeable rings, too (reader's imagination required). [All I can say to
this is "OUCH!!" There isn't enough single malt whiskey to give me the
courage to pin myself this often.] She was painted: wrist and ankle
carried Celtic designs, the back of her neck (sun god/goddess), and
cheek carried some tear drops. Her hair was chopped short, dyed deep
blue-black, and spiked.

All I could think of at the time: Why? Doesn't she realize what she'll
look like in 20 years? Pinholes /might/ close, hair can grow back, but
those tattoos are there for life (even if lasers are used to remove
them...)

Oh well... Not my daughter-unit, not my worry.

The Ranger

We used to gaze at the pages of National Geographic and think, "Look
at those poor savages." Now our current generation seems to be doing
everything to look like them.

Rusty

Rusty reuben_barton@no_spam_y_a_h_o_o_.com said:

We used to gaze at the pages of National Geographic and think, "Look
at those poor savages." Now our current generation seems to be doing
everything to look like them.

There's a guy who works at one of the stores we patronize. He's very, very
black. And he has orderly rows of raised bumps on his forehead. It looks
really sharp! I keep planning on asking him where he's from, but I always
chicken out. I *will* find out what those cool rows are all about, though.

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

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Quoted message said:

Rusty reuben_barton@no_spam_y_a_h_o_o_.com said:

We used to gaze at the pages of National Geographic and think, "Look
at those poor savages." Now our current generation seems to be doing
everything to look like them.

There's a guy who works at one of the stores we patronize. He's very,
very
black. And he has orderly rows of raised bumps on his forehead. It looks
really sharp! I keep planning on asking him where he's from, but I always
chicken out. I *will* find out what those cool rows are all about,
though.

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

I don't know whether this applies to the fellow you are talking about, but I
read a few months ago that a few "stars" are starting to put 'bumps' under
their skin; small to large. No, not botox bumps, or high cheek-bone
bumps, as far as I understood the article.
Yikes!
Dee

Damsel <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Rusty reuben_barton@no_spam_y_a_h_o_o_.com said:

We used to gaze at the pages of National Geographic and think,
"Look at those poor savages." Now our current generation seems to
be doing everything to look like them.

There's a guy who works at one of the stores we patronize. He's
very, very black. And he has orderly rows of raised bumps on his
forehead. It looks really sharp! I keep planning on asking him
where he's from, but I always chicken out. I *will* find out what
those cool rows are all about, though.

I can tell you right now. They're ritual scarring.

http://www.randafricanart.com/Luba_bowstand.html

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

Damsel said:

Rusty reuben_barton@no_spam_y_a_h_o_o_.com said:

We used to gaze at the pages of National Geographic and think, "Look
at those poor savages." Now our current generation seems to be doing
everything to look like them.

There's a guy who works at one of the stores we patronize. He's very, very
black. And he has orderly rows of raised bumps on his forehead. It looks
really sharp! I keep planning on asking him where he's from, but I always
chicken out. I *will* find out what those cool rows are all about, though.

They're indickative of the bumps on his schlong, really... they imbed
little stones under the skin as a rite of passage, like a bar mitzvah
but those thirteen year olds get stoned peepees instead of stoned on
Manischewitz.

Maybe you'll get lucky... report back. 😉

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

Damsel said:

There's a guy who works at one of the stores we patronize. He's very, very
black. And he has orderly rows of raised bumps on his forehead. It looks
really sharp! I keep planning on asking him where he's from, but I always
chicken out. I *will* find out what those cool rows are all about, though.

They're indickative of the bumps on his schlong, really... they imbed
little stones under the skin as a rite of passage, like a bar mitzvah
but those thirteen year olds get stoned peepees instead of stoned on
Manischewitz.

Maybe you'll get lucky... report back. 😉

"Stoned for her pleasure"

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

Dee Randall said:

"Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

There's a guy who works at one of the stores we patronize. He's very,
very black. And he has orderly rows of raised bumps on his forehead.
It looks really sharp! I keep planning on asking him where he's from, but
I always chicken out. I *will* find out what those cool rows are all about,
though.

I don't know whether this applies to the fellow you are talking about, but I
read a few months ago that a few "stars" are starting to put 'bumps' under
their skin; small to large. No, not botox bumps, or high cheek-bone
bumps, as far as I understood the article.
Yikes!

Found it! It's called scarification.
http://my-body-art.com/scarification.htm

The description of the forehead markings sounds a lot like the Store Guy's
markings. This may make him from the Sudan or Ethiopia:
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/N/Nu/Nuer.htm

This is similar to the SG's:
http://tinyurl.com/dm5ue
OR
http://www.panos.co.uk/bin/panos.dll/go?a=disp&pt=1&t=us\sr-loadersearch.html&si=&tc=&usp=0&_spb=0&_spe=0&_spw=0&mw=2&se=&_filtercolor=&_filterori=&_filteraut=&_filteryear=&searchtext=00024134

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

Michel Boucher said:

Some young people resent who you are and what you represent and so they
do everything they can to shock you. The punk movement is an overt
rebellion against the established order.

I'm fond of saying that every kid rebels, no matter what length s/he
has to go to in order to do it. In my case, my 25-year old was
blessed/cursed with me, the weird, out-there mommy, so she rebelled
the only way she could. She became a yuppie. (Seriously...bought her
first house with her own money at 19, is on the fast track in retail
management, married a computer/IT geek at 20 (evidently NOBODY gets
married at 20 unless they're pregnant...it still shocks her cow-orkers
that she didn't HAVE to get married) and her stocks and bonds are
doing well - she started buying them her first week in the job
market...at 15)

Jeanne

"The Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

All I could think of at the time: Why? Doesn't she realize what
she'll look like in 20 years? Pinholes /might/ close, hair can
grow back, but those tattoos are there for life (even if lasers
are used to remove them...)

Some young people resent who you are and what you represent and so they
do everything they can to shock you. The punk movement is an overt
rebellion against the established order.

Quoted message said:

Oh well... Not my daughter-unit, not my worry.

And if it was, would you love her any less?

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

"The Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

[I posted this prior but it seems appropriate with the topic being
discussed again. -- TR]

Being conservative, I'm often shocked at what people will do to their
bodies in order to show how anti-establishment they are. Case in point:
Once upon a time, a young lady in front of me ordered a hot soy milk
drink. (YUCK!)

At some point, she was quite pretty -- I'm sure -- but with all that's
been pinned, painted, and pulled that's now a moot. I'm not sure if
"Goth" is in anymore but the dress was very similar -- black (spandex,
leather, cotton). She'd pinned herself in some very visible and some not
so visible places (but it was cold outside). A triad of steel pins
protruded from the lower lip to just above the chin. Two diamonds were
pinned through the right nostril. A steel horseshoe was run through the
nose ridge between her eyes. Two diamond studs replaced her eyebrows.
Her ears had also been pieced multiple times. There were, uh, two other
noticeable rings, too (reader's imagination required). [All I can say to
this is "OUCH!!" There isn't enough single malt whiskey to give me the
courage to pin myself this often.] She was painted: wrist and ankle
carried Celtic designs, the back of her neck (sun god/goddess), and
cheek carried some tear drops. Her hair was chopped short, dyed deep
blue-black, and spiked.

All I could think of at the time: Why? Doesn't she realize what she'll
look like in 20 years? Pinholes /might/ close, hair can grow back, but
those tattoos are there for life (even if lasers are used to remove
them...)

Oh well... Not my daughter-unit, not my worry.

The Ranger

Oh me oh my oh DEAR! The things some people will do to their mental make-up,
their emotional make-up, the closing off of whole parts of themselves, the
damage they do to themselves in the name of what they unequivocally *know*
is right and wrong - the inner scars - those are the ones that show the
most, and have the most profound negative effects on lives, and not just
their own lives, either ',;~P'''

Shaun aRe - No tattoos (yet?), just 2 piercings, one each earlobe, one 5mm
diameter and soon to be 8mm, the other one 8mm already. Gosh I'm a rebel.

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[snip]

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Oh me oh my oh DEAR! [snip]

Prosac. You might like to order a round before you become anymore
unhinged.

Quoted message said:

Shaun aRe - No tattoos (yet?), just 2 piercings,

Go back and match the young girl's number and then brag. Till then...
You are borg.

The Ranger
---
Never give the good stuff to the neighbors who wandered over, but always
have something to give them!
-- M. L.'s personal, Code of the West

Michel Boucher <[email hidden]> asked in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oh well... Not my daughter-unit, not my worry.

Quoted message said:

And if it was, would you love her any less?

It won't happen (with any of them) so it's moot.

The Ranger
---
Better to be called an [censored] for being passionately opinionated than
to just be called an [censored] because you *are* just an [censored].
Josie's dad, am, 9/29/01

Rusty <reuben_barton@no_spam_y_a_h_o_o_.com> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

We used to gaze at the pages of National Geographic and
think, "Look at those poor savages." Now our current
generation seems to be doing everything to look like them.

Ain't it the TRVTH.

The Ranger
---
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?
So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of
the universe."
-+-+-+ Marcus, 'A Late Delivery From Avalon', Babylon 5

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:40:54 +0100, "Shaun aRe"
<[email hidden]> connected the dots and wrote:

~
~"The Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
~news:[email hidden]...
~> [I posted this prior but it seems appropriate with the topic being
~> discussed again. -- TR]
~>
~> Being conservative, I'm often shocked at what people will do to
their
~> bodies in order to show how anti-establishment they are. Case in
point:
~> Once upon a time, a young lady in front of me ordered a hot soy
milk
~> drink. (YUCK!)
~>
~> At some point, she was quite pretty -- I'm sure -- but with all
that's
~> been pinned, painted, and pulled that's now a moot. I'm not sure if
~> "Goth" is in anymore but the dress was very similar -- black
(spandex,
~> leather, cotton). She'd pinned herself in some very visible and
some not
~> so visible places (but it was cold outside). A triad of steel pins
~> protruded from the lower lip to just above the chin. Two diamonds
were
~> pinned through the right nostril. A steel horseshoe was run through
the
~> nose ridge between her eyes. Two diamond studs replaced her
eyebrows.
~> Her ears had also been pieced multiple times. There were, uh, two
other
~> noticeable rings, too (reader's imagination required). [All I can
say to
~> this is "OUCH!!" There isn't enough single malt whiskey to give me
the
~> courage to pin myself this often.] She was painted: wrist and ankle
~> carried Celtic designs, the back of her neck (sun god/goddess), and
~> cheek carried some tear drops. Her hair was chopped short, dyed
deep
~> blue-black, and spiked.
~>
~> All I could think of at the time: Why? Doesn't she realize what
she'll
~> look like in 20 years? Pinholes /might/ close, hair can grow back,
but
~> those tattoos are there for life (even if lasers are used to remove
~> them...)
~>
~> Oh well... Not my daughter-unit, not my worry.
~>
~> The Ranger
~
~Oh me oh my oh DEAR! The things some people will do to their mental
make-up,
~their emotional make-up, the closing off of whole parts of
themselves, the
~damage they do to themselves in the name of what they unequivocally
*know*
~is right and wrong - the inner scars - those are the ones that show
the
~most, and have the most profound negative effects on lives, and not
just
~their own lives, either ',;~P'''
~
~
~
~Shaun aRe - No tattoos (yet?), just 2 piercings, one each earlobe,
one 5mm
~diameter and soon to be 8mm, the other one 8mm already. Gosh I'm a
rebel.
~

My daughter was 7 and we had just moved to a new neighborhood and it
was Girl Scout Cookie time. We went door to door to meet our
neighbors, and she was stunned by the house of the "piercing people" a
couple of 20-somethings with multiple piercings. I prodded her
through her spiel, they excitedly bought a number of boxes, and we
thanked them and left.

When we returned in March to deliver the goodies, an older woman
answered the door, cute as a button, and obviously related to the two
kids. She is their mom, who along with her son, works with
differently abled children at the local school. The daughter is a
sous chef at a local restaurant.

Nice neighbors. They have a dog and several cats.

And daughter has no interest in tats, nor piercings beyond her ears,
which closed up after the first time she plugged them.

maxine in ri

Jeanne Burton <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Michel Boucher said:

Some young people resent who you are and what you represent and so
they do everything they can to shock you. The punk movement is an
overt rebellion against the established order.

I'm fond of saying that every kid rebels, no matter what length
s/he has to go to in order to do it. In my case, my 25-year old
was blessed/cursed with me, the weird, out-there mommy, so she
rebelled the only way she could. She became a yuppie.
(Seriously...bought her first house with her own money at 19, is
on the fast track in retail management, married a computer/IT geek
at 20 (evidently NOBODY gets married at 20 unless they're
pregnant...it still shocks her cow-orkers that she didn't HAVE to
get married) and her stocks and bonds are doing well - she started
buying them her first week in the job market...at 15)

My my...you have some serious karma to deal with seeing as you
twisted that child beyond all human comprehension :-) And to think
that would be some right-winger's pride and joy. But you're the one
she rebels against. The problem is that we don't plan what our
children will rebel against. For example, my daughter's rebellion is
to NOT go to university. She has set her sights on acting instead
and moved across the continent to do it.

But it makes my point. Rebellion is rejection of values. Your
daughter rejected yours. She is doing what society has programmed
her to do which is part of the process of renewal. I suspect
Ranger's daughters rebelled too, only he doesn't know about it :-)

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

"The Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Oh well... Not my daughter-unit, not my worry.

Quoted message said:

And if it was, would you love her any less?

It won't happen (with any of them) so it's moot.

But that's not my question.

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

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> Oh well... Not my daughter-unit, not my worry.

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And if it was, would you love her any less?

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It won't happen (with any of them) so it's moot.

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But that's not my question.

That's the answer, though; like it or not. "It's moot."

ObFood: Pesto Chicken Pizza from Via Mia (shameless plug) on Saratoga
Avenue in San Jose, CA. Delicious and filling all while affordable.

The Ranger
---
I can't wait 'til I'm a teenager! Then you won't be able to order me
around!"
Alpha Ranger, 1234:55, 11/30/02

On June 20, 2005, The Ranger wrote:

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Quoted message said:

ObFood: Pesto Chicken Pizza from Via Mia (shameless plug) on Saratoga
Avenue in San Jose, CA. Delicious and filling all while affordable.

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The Ranger

Thanks for the tip. I'll try it this week.

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Quoted message said:

ObFood: Pesto Chicken Pizza from Via Mia (shameless
plug) on Saratoga Avenue in San Jose, CA. Delicious
and filling all while affordable.

Quoted message said:

Thanks for the tip. I'll try it this week.

Be sure to check out the coupon combos on their website. Pick-up is also
WAY better than delivery.

The Ranger