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Change of chainring like for like but now it won't change smoothly

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  1. Hi,

    I've recently changed the middle chainring on my Dawes Audax. It has a
    52/42/30 triple and as I use the middle chainring most it started to
    slip when under load. I bought a new 42t ring, fitted it and now I've
    got a problem I haven't had before. When I change down from the 52t
    ring the edge of the chain sits on top of the teeth of the 42t ring.
    It just doesn't move over towards the frame enough. If I set up the
    front mech so it does move over enough it catches the front mech. It
    is a new Shimano chain by the way.

    If I move the rear mech over 3 or more gears it will change.

    Can anyone help?

    TIA

    Alan

  2. Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I've recently changed the middle chainring on my Dawes Audax. It has a
    52/42/30 triple and as I use the middle chainring most it started to
    slip when under load. I bought a new 42t ring, fitted it and now I've
    got a problem I haven't had before. When I change down from the 52t
    ring the edge of the chain sits on top of the teeth of the 42t ring.
    It just doesn't move over towards the frame enough. If I set up the
    front mech so it does move over enough it catches the front mech. It
    is a new Shimano chain by the way.

    If I move the rear mech over 3 or more gears it will change.

    Is it /exactly/ like for like? Middle-specific chainring and not one
    designed for a double inner?

    Sorry I can't think of anything else at the moment.

    ~PB

  3. Pete Biggs said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I've recently changed the middle chainring on my Dawes Audax. It has a
    52/42/30 triple and as I use the middle chainring most it started to
    slip when under load. I bought a new 42t ring, fitted it and now I've
    got a problem I haven't had before. When I change down from the 52t
    ring the edge of the chain sits on top of the teeth of the 42t ring.
    It just doesn't move over towards the frame enough. If I set up the
    front mech so it does move over enough it catches the front mech. It
    is a new Shimano chain by the way.

    If I move the rear mech over 3 or more gears it will change.

    Is it /exactly/ like for like? Middle-specific chainring and not one
    designed for a double inner?

    Sorry I can't think of anything else at the moment.

    I think the front mech just needs adjusting. If there was a shifting
    problem related to using a double inner on a triple setup (in fact, I do
    this without any hassle) it would manifest itself as a failure to drop
    off the middle onto the granny.

    The OP should try slackening the cable a bit and adjusting the angle of
    the mech. Some like to be "toed in" a little.

  4. Like PB I wondered if I had been given a chainring for a double
    instead of a triple. Does anyone know for sure whether there is a
    difference.

    Alan

  5. Zog The Undeniable said:
    Pete Biggs said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've recently changed the middle chainring on my Dawes Audax. It
    has a 52/42/30 triple and as I use the middle chainring most it
    started to slip when under load. I bought a new 42t ring, fitted it
    and now I've got a problem I haven't had before. When I change down
    from the 52t ring the edge of the chain sits on top of the teeth of
    the 42t ring. It just doesn't move over towards the frame enough.
    If I set up the front mech so it does move over enough it catches
    the front mech. It is a new Shimano chain by the way.

    If I move the rear mech over 3 or more gears it will change.

    Is it /exactly/ like for like? Middle-specific chainring and not one
    designed for a double inner?

    Sorry I can't think of anything else at the moment.

    I think the front mech just needs adjusting.

    Maybe it does, but why? Seems like it was working with the old ring.
    What has changed?

    Quoted message said:

    If there was a shifting
    problem related to using a double inner on a triple setup (in fact, I
    do this without any hassle) it would manifest itself as a failure to
    drop off the middle onto the granny.

    Or change up from the granny (thhe pins pick up the chain).

    I mentioned a middle-specific ring because Sheldon Brown suggested it as
    an answer to a similar problem on r.b.t, but thinking again about it now,
    I too don't see how it could help when shifting down from outer to middle.
    The heat must have got to me!

    ~PB

  6. Pete Biggs said:

    Or change up from the granny (thhe pins pick up the chain).

    True, although I'm blessed with a non-indexed FD which will shift on
    anything (I use a 105 triple crankset with a 52T 105 outer ring, a 42T
    TA "double inner" ring with no cutouts, ramps or pins and an unknown
    make of 26T granny ring).

    If the OP is using front indexing, it can take a lot of faffing to get
    right. I have it on the MTB and it just about works, but it's a waste
    of time IMO.

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