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Re: Vitamin suggestions for 50 YO t2 diabetic wishing to add muscle?

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  1. "Jack Pey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:22:57 +0300, Jack Pey <[email hidden]>

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    I see many good vitamin suggestions, and a lot of "Spam" which is high
    in saturated fats, we all know... 🙂

    Using many excellent suggestions and methods I've learned here I've
    lost much weight since 2001. Now I wish to do strength training to
    put maybe 20 lbs of muscle on.

    I'm type-II diabetic Dx 2001, and 50 years old. My diabetes has
    alyaws been well controlled. With little to no meds but much exercise,
    my A1c is usually around 4.9-5.1. 🙂))

    I must admit I'm often a little fatigued, and feel weak. Two weeks
    ago, I began taking simple multivitamins. I think it had 12 standard
    vits plus 8 minerals. The next day, I felt like a new man! Stronger
    and more energy. At the gym I saw much strength improvement.

    In the past, I believed vitamins are only helpful if a person is
    missing something in their diet the vitamins replace. But I eat and
    extremely well balanced diet. Plenty of fresh fruit, fresh veggies,
    brown whole wheat bread, 8 oz or so of chicken breast or tuna, a
    gallon or more water. March I had a very thorough blood test with 6
    pages of reports. All is normal. To help me believe the vitamins were
    responsible for feeling better, I quit taking them for 3 days. I
    began feeling tired again, and weak at the gym.

    Does anyone have suggestions for what should be included in vitamins
    to cover all the bases more thoroughly than a standard multivitamin?

    My first guess is there are no improvements to be made beyond the
    standard multivitamins and my balanced/varied diet. Opinions...
    please!

    Thanks
    J

    Thank you all for the replies. I am asking for a favor, so I
    shouldn't complain. But I will... I got one pertinant reply,
    referring me to a commerical product.

    Below is a list of what is in the multi-vitamin/mineral supplements
    I'm taking. All are miligrams, except "mkg" are micrograms. I copied
    the list from a French pharmaceutical site, but my package lists the
    ingredients in Russian. I'm sure there is some "generic" information
    to be gleaned here from you people's combined experience. Assume I
    eat a diet balanced with many vegetables, fruit, whole grain products,
    8-12 oz lean meat a day. And, a lot of water. Anything I should add
    to this list? Thank you all again for the posts!

    Re'tinol (vitamine A) 1000 mkg
    Thiamine (Vitamine B1) 20
    Riboflavine (vitamine B2) 5
    Pyridoxine (vitamine B6) 10
    Acide pantothe'nique (vitamine B5) 11.6
    Acide folique (vitamine B9) 1
    Cyanocobalamine (Vitamine B12) 5 mkg
    Acide ascorbique (Vitamine C) 125
    Cole'calciferol (Vitamine D) 12.5 mkg
    Alpha-tocophe'rol (vitamine E) 10
    Biotine (vitamine H ou B7) .25
    Nicotinamide (vitamine PP) 50

    Calcium 51.3
    Magne'sium 21.2
    Phosphore 23.8
    Mangane`se Fer Cuivre
    Zinc .5
    Chrome
    Molybdenum .1

    You sound like a bit of a dork. The idea of vitamins is not to take whatever
    is going. You need to determine where you are deficient and take the
    vitamins and minerals your system needs. There have been studies that show
    that more is not better - that supplements often conflict with each other
    and you are actually worse off by just popping all these pills than not. You
    need to get assessed by a professional who can give you blood, saliva, maybe
    hair testing and get your profile

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