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  1. Even if the test is still under scrutiny, who would want to be a part
    of the scrum? I'll raise my glass tonight in honor of all the wrongly
    convicted/accused false positives incurred during this year's Tour.

    http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8268.0.html

    Organizers of the Tour de France plan to use the same test for illicit
    blood transfusions first employed at last year's summer Olympics in
    Athens, the French national drug screening laboratory (LNDD) announced
    on Thursday...

  2. "gym.gravity" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Even if the test is still under scrutiny, who would want to be a part
    of the scrum? I'll raise my glass tonight in honor of all the wrongly
    convicted/accused false positives incurred during this year's Tour.

    None of the big boys will call in sick. Autologous transfusions are still
    not tested for (unless they decide to use the "experimental" autologous test
    and embarrass someone).

  3. I imagine there will be quite a smoke screen/white wash around the "the same
    test for illicit blood transfusions first employed at last year's summer
    Olympics ..."

    So with the added delay on Tyler's case there will have the appearance of
    more sucessful use to further put doubt on the the case around false
    positves. That is making it look weaker with more in competition data
    points to discredit the various Drs that support Tyler's defense.

    "gym.gravity" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Even if the test is still under scrutiny, who would want to be a part
    of the scrum? I'll raise my glass tonight in honor of all the wrongly
    convicted/accused false positives incurred during this year's Tour.

    http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8268.0.html

    Organizers of the Tour de France plan to use the same test for illicit
    blood transfusions first employed at last year's summer Olympics in
    Athens, the French national drug screening laboratory (LNDD) announced
    on Thursday...

  4. After Hamilton's and Perez' bust for homologous blood doping, it seems
    to me most teams and pros would switch to autologous doping, (their own
    blood, withdrawn in the off-season, then added right before competition)
    especially since there aren't any tests for it, yet.

    Or am I missing something?

    Morgan
    --
    Morgan Fletcher, [email hidden] Oakland, CA, USA

  5. gym.gravity said:

    Even if the test is still under scrutiny, who would want to be a part
    of the scrum? I'll raise my glass tonight in honor of all the wrongly
    convicted/accused false positives incurred during this year's Tour.

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8268.0.html

    The test was used hundreds of times in the Olympics, with no false
    positives.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  6. Bob Schwartz said:

    The test was used hundreds of times in the Olympics, with no false
    positives.

    (I was joking)

  7. Bob Schwartz said:

    The test was used hundreds of times in the Olympics, with no false
    positives.

    Hamilton would disagree.

  8. gym.gravity said:

    Bob Schwartz wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The test was used hundreds of times in the Olympics, with no false
    positives.

    Quoted message said:

    (I was joking)

    (Me too)

  9. Morgan Fletcher said:

    After Hamilton's and Perez' bust for homologous blood doping, it seems
    to me most teams and pros would switch to autologous doping, (their own
    blood, withdrawn in the off-season, then added right before competition)
    especially since there aren't any tests for it, yet.

    Or am I missing something?

    Morgan

    If you believe the cynics, what you're missing is that they ARE doing
    autololgous doping but in the Hamilton/Perez case the bags got switched.

  10. "Diablo Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Morgan Fletcher said:

    After Hamilton's and Perez' bust for homologous blood doping, it seems
    to me most teams and pros would switch to autologous doping, (their own
    blood, withdrawn in the off-season, then added right before competition)
    especially since there aren't any tests for it, yet.

    Or am I missing something?

    Morgan

    If you believe the cynics, what you're missing is that they ARE doing
    autololgous doping but in the Hamilton/Perez case the bags got switched.

    I emailed the director of Hamilton's foundation asking her if she could
    provide Tyler and Santi's blood types. She said they didn't have them.
    Presumably, Hamilton knows his. I wonder if the data is part of the
    arbitration record.

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