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  1. Greetings, a bit of a pc technophobe but like bling, every technicians
    dream maybe?
    Running a Pissy Desktop Pent 4 3GHz, 1 GB Ram yada. Bought a Polar s725
    and a cheapie $10 irda dongle, drivers installed. Fscking Polar cannot
    talk to irda. Just will not handshake and download exercise information
    to the pissy.
    How do I know if the irda has ir photodiodes so the s725 is pointing in
    generally the right direction? The books state 6" and +/- 15 deg
    Polar forums on web not 'exactly' helpful but a good start.
    Any others out there with experience in this matter or should I just get
    the Proprietry Polar IR Interface.
    I also have an s520 that uses soniclink through the microphone and that
    works fine.
    Any help comments or distractions welcome.
    Steven

  2. Gumby said:

    Greetings, a bit of a pc technophobe but like bling, every technicians
    dream maybe?
    Running a Pissy Desktop Pent 4 3GHz, 1 GB Ram yada. Bought a Polar s725
    and a cheapie $10 irda dongle, drivers installed. Fscking Polar cannot
    talk to irda. Just will not handshake and download exercise information
    to the pissy.
    How do I know if the irda has ir photodiodes so the s725 is pointing in
    generally the right direction? The books state 6" and +/- 15 deg
    Polar forums on web not 'exactly' helpful but a good start.
    Any others out there with experience in this matter or should I just get
    the Proprietry Polar IR Interface.
    I also have an s520 that uses soniclink through the microphone and that
    works fine.
    Any help comments or distractions welcome.
    Steven

    I had the same problem, and the answer was that the polar software will not work with a USB infrared adaptor that uses the SIGMATEL chip. I took mine back and bought a BELKIN. You can check the chipset in control panel->system->hardware->device manager->properties

    See this post on the forum at www.pursuit-performance.com.au
    -------------------
    The only chipset we are aware of is the SIGMATEL; it appears in the BAFO and SPIRIT devices (both appear nearly identical), that we know of.
    We have been using for test purposes, either a BELKIN purchased from Harvey Norman or a similar device purchased from Jaycar Electronics (the device manager reports the manufacturer as KC Technology, Inc.) Both of these work with no problems with any "i" model plus mobile phones etc.

    Note. We have not heard of any laptop builtin IrDA ports not working with the "i" models.

    Pursuit Performance Pty Ltd
    -------------------

  3. "dtmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Gumby s.mckiernan@_digit_.ecu.edu.a_eeeeu_oooo_ said:

    Greetings, a bit of a pc technophobe but like bling, every technicians
    dream maybe?
    Running a Pissy Desktop Pent 4 3GHz, 1 GB Ram yada. Bought a Polar s725
    and a cheapie $10 irda dongle, drivers installed. Fscking Polar cannot
    talk to irda. Just will not handshake and download exercise information
    to the pissy.
    How do I know if the irda has ir photodiodes so the s725 is pointing in
    generally the right direction? The books state 6" and +/- 15 deg
    Polar forums on web not 'exactly' helpful but a good start.
    Any others out there with experience in this matter or should I just get
    the Proprietry Polar IR Interface.
    I also have an s520 that uses soniclink through the microphone and that
    works fine.
    Any help comments or distractions welcome.

    I have the 720i and I've never been able to make it work with my IR
    dongle (which works fine with my other IR gadgets). I'm unclear as
    to exactly why, but I've spent many hours googling and trying various
    things, to no avail. Many others seem to have the same problem.

    I think the answer is to buy the Polar USB/Serial IR interface. 🙁
    www.deanwoods.com.au have them for $79.


    I had exactly the same trouble with my dongle. I was [censored] so I went
    into the australian polar distributor to see what I was doing wrong. Turned
    out that Polar have some IR issues and not all dongles work with the Polar
    products (Mine was a USB Spirit). The nice guys at Polar GAVE me the proper
    batman IR interface which works a treat, just for the trouble I took to add
    to their dongle-don't-work collection. Apparently there were issues with
    XP/USB polar IR interfacing back then too, so I got a Serial port type.
    Seems it may be a USB issue rather than an IR issue as everyone I know with
    a laptop with built in IR has no problem....
    I suggest you ring polar here in Adelaide and see whether they can help
    you....

    gemma

  4. Gemma_k said:

    "dtmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Gumby s.mckiernan@_digit_.ecu.edu.a_eeeeu_oooo_ said:

    Greetings, a bit of a pc technophobe but like bling, every technicians
    dream maybe?
    Running a Pissy Desktop Pent 4 3GHz, 1 GB Ram yada. Bought a Polar s725
    and a cheapie $10 irda dongle, drivers installed. Fscking Polar cannot
    talk to irda. Just will not handshake and download exercise information
    to the pissy.
    How do I know if the irda has ir photodiodes so the s725 is pointing in
    generally the right direction? The books state 6" and +/- 15 deg
    Polar forums on web not 'exactly' helpful but a good start.
    Any others out there with experience in this matter or should I just get
    the Proprietry Polar IR Interface.
    I also have an s520 that uses soniclink through the microphone and that
    works fine.
    Any help comments or distractions welcome.

    I have the 720i and I've never been able to make it work with my IR
    dongle (which works fine with my other IR gadgets). I'm unclear as
    to exactly why, but I've spent many hours googling and trying various
    things, to no avail. Many others seem to have the same problem.

    I think the answer is to buy the Polar USB/Serial IR interface. 🙁
    www.deanwoods.com.au have them for $79.

    I had exactly the same trouble with my dongle. I was [censored] so I went
    into the australian polar distributor to see what I was doing wrong. Turned
    out that Polar have some IR issues and not all dongles work with the Polar
    products (Mine was a USB Spirit). The nice guys at Polar GAVE me the proper
    batman IR interface which works a treat, just for the trouble I took to add
    to their dongle-don't-work collection. Apparently there were issues with
    XP/USB polar IR interfacing back then too, so I got a Serial port type.
    Seems it may be a USB issue rather than an IR issue as everyone I know with
    a laptop with built in IR has no problem....
    I suggest you ring polar here in Adelaide and see whether they can help
    you....

    gemma


    Thanks very much guys. I was trying to work out which angle the ir
    window should talk to the dongle, it was getting late 11pm and my brain
    was shutting down. I do not have any other IR devices to work with to
    test the dongle, so I might have to mark this one off the experience and
    see what I can do.
    Ho hum.
    One good thing thought the s725 does have a much better memory than the
    s520 and can save many exercise sessions before needing to be downloaded
    to the PPP software.

  5. I've had no problems with laptops reading my 720, and I have 2 IrDA USB
    adaptors, one works, so far the other doesn't. You don't need to
    donate $lots to polar to get them working.
    The one I have that works is a "MosChip Semiconductor Technology
    Limited",
    driver version 1.0.0.8. I got it from XON computers in the city
    (Melbourne).

  6. Bleve said:

    I've had no problems with laptops reading my 720, and I have 2 IrDA USB
    adaptors, one works, so far the other doesn't. You don't need to
    donate $lots to polar to get them working.
    The one I have that works is a "MosChip Semiconductor Technology
    Limited",
    driver version 1.0.0.8. I got it from XON computers in the city
    (Melbourne).


    dammit dammit
    polar is my favourite charity
    :-(

  7. adam85 said:

    See this post on the forum at www.pursuit-performance.com.au
    -------------------
    The only chipset we are aware of is the SIGMATEL; it appears in the
    BAFO and SPIRIT devices (both appear nearly identical), that we know
    of.
    We have been using for test purposes, either a BELKIN purchased from
    Harvey Norman or a similar device purchased from Jaycar Electronics
    (the device manager reports the manufacturer as KC Technology, Inc.)
    Both of these work with no problems with any "i" model plus mobile
    phones etc.

    Note. We have not heard of any laptop builtin IrDA ports not working
    with the "i" models.

    Pursuit Performance Pty Ltd
    -------------------

    My other one (now I'm at work and can check it!) shows up in the
    device mangler as a DonShine, driver ver 1.0.0.0. This one
    (so far) doesn't seem to work. You can't tell what make the thing
    is until it's too late ... they're all anonymous from a yumcha
    computer shop.

  8. On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:14:43 +0800, Gumby

    s.mckiernan@_digit_.ecu.edu.a_eeeeu_oooo_ said:

    Greetings, a bit of a pc technophobe but like bling, every technicians
    dream maybe?
    Running a Pissy Desktop Pent 4 3GHz, 1 GB Ram yada. Bought a Polar s725
    and a cheapie $10 irda dongle, drivers installed. Fscking Polar cannot
    talk to irda. Just will not handshake and download exercise information
    to the pissy.
    How do I know if the irda has ir photodiodes so the s725 is pointing in
    generally the right direction? The books state 6" and +/- 15 deg
    Polar forums on web not 'exactly' helpful but a good start.
    Any others out there with experience in this matter or should I just get
    the Proprietry Polar IR Interface.
    I also have an s520 that uses soniclink through the microphone and that
    works fine.
    Any help comments or distractions welcome.

    I just pulled the one of mine that doesn't work apart - it's got this
    in it as its chip :

    http://www.chipcatalog.com/Cypress/CY7C63723-SC.htm

    I reckon the problem will be a device driver issue. And by
    golly, these are a big markup item. The chip's worth about
    $1 and there'a pair of LEDs, a crystal, 3 resistors, 3 capacitors,
    a mystery "U" chip (looks like a resistor maybe? but it's tagged
    "U6"😉 nd the chip .. and hat's *it* on the board. If it cost more
    than $5 to make 'd be suprised.


  9. Quoted message said:

    I just pulled the one of mine that doesn't work apart - it's got this
    in it as its chip :

    http://www.chipcatalog.com/Cypress/CY7C63723-SC.htm

    I reckon the problem will be a device driver issue. And by
    golly, these are a big markup item. The chip's worth about
    $1 and there'a pair of LEDs, a crystal, 3 resistors, 3 capacitors,
    a mystery "U" chip (looks like a resistor maybe? but it's tagged
    "U6"😉 nd the chip .. and hat's *it* on the board. If it cost more
    than $5 to make 'd be suprised.


    I paid $14 for for this very dongle!
    I have realised it is better not to look too hard at the componentry and
    build price of pissy gear. Too depressing.
    Steven

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