Re: A vote for Mark

"Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 7/15/2003 4:11 PM Pacifi

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'm still waiting to know how much the surgeons got paid who performed
the dangerous heart surgery on your husband. Why don't you tell me
that? --rb

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and that matters ...why??

Gee Whiz dearie,....it's not like i'm asking you to send nude photos of
yourself to the board! Whats so secret about how much your hubby's heart
surgery really cost unless the price is so high you're too embarrassed to
admit just how expensive these conventional treatments really are?--rb

besides being none of your business...you being an

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altie would never consider having life saving surgery...shucks just break

out

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the chelation [censored]...

anyhoo....I warned the good surgeon that "rb" was after him....ohhhhhhhhh

maroon...

plagarize again...???

hawki

Mark Probert said:

chutzpah

Careful, Mark. Words like that might identify you as a "New Yorker".
(Wink, wink, know what I mean?)

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 7/16/2003 10:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time

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Whats so secret about how much your hubby's heart
surgery really cost unless the price is so high you're too embarrassed to
admit just how expensive these conventional treatments really are?--rb

actually rubber balls...it was truly a bargain at any cost!!!

Still too high to mention huh. But then again didn't you mention your
husband was one of these sellers for the drug companies! Did he sell so many
useless and dangerous drugs that they basically gave him a free surgery? No
wonder you're so coy.--rb

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the guy looks and feels oh....maybe 48 and he's pushing 64...you should be

so

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handsome....

They've got him now. It's only a matter of time before these anti
cholesterol drugs he's taking will wreck his liver and kidney's if his
arteries don't clog up again first in 5 or 6 years time! --rb

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still waiting for YOUR explanation of EECP,,,which we all know you haven't

a

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clue about...

You tell us all why chelation doesn't work again. We all want to have a
great laugh. We're fun people you know.--rb

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funny tho...that it IS EVILLLLL mainstream medicine,,,,also VERRRRYYY
expensive...not one of your ditzy alt no/remedies...

It's not very expensive at all compared to cabg's etc. It will be though if
ever the pro meds get their greedy grubby hands on it.--rb

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maroon...

hawki

hawki

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 7/16/2003 4:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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then again didn't you mention your
husband was one of these sellers for the drug companies! Did he sell so many

nope never a drug rep...."devices" are entirely different animals...not that
one such as you would know the difference...

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useless and dangerous drugs that they basically gave him a free surgery? No
wonder you're so coy.--rb

that is so stupid you show yourself up...."surgeons" do surgery....not drug
companies you loon....plus then there are the hospital
bills,,,anesthesia...etc...maroon..

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You tell us all why chelation doesn't work again. We all want to have a
great laugh. We're fun people you know.--rb

no...you tell US why it does???? got that angiographic proof yet??? NOT

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It's not very expensive at all

oh???? and you know that how???

actually EECP is done in 6 week,,three times a week increments...costs about
$1500 per treatment...can you multiply that high??? doubt it..."symptomatic
relief" only ditzball...

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compared to cabg's etc. It will be though if
ever the pro meds get their greedy grubby hands on it.--rb

OK..multiply the above figures and you get WAY less than a cabg.....and the
EECP's joints I have visited ARE run by pro meds...cardiologists to be
exact...Medicare requires REAL docs be in charge of such treatment...

again...rubber balls...YOUR explanation please???

maroon.....
hawki

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 7/16/2003 4:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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then again didn't you mention your
husband was one of these sellers for the drug companies! Did he sell so

many

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nope never a drug rep...."devices" are entirely different animals...not

that

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one such as you would know the difference...

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useless and dangerous drugs that they basically gave him a free surgery?

No

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wonder you're so coy.--rb

that is so stupid you show yourself up...."surgeons" do surgery....not

drug

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companies you loon....plus then there are the hospital
bills,,,anesthesia...etc...maroon..

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You tell us all why chelation doesn't work again. We all want to have a
great laugh. We're fun people you know.--rb

no...you tell US why it does???? got that angiographic proof yet??? NOT

Me and many other's have already told you! You can't seem to "comprehend"
what we say.--rb

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It's not very expensive at all

oh???? and you know that how???

Why I read and search the net of course!--rb

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actually EECP is done in 6 week,,three times a week increments...costs

about

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$1500 per treatment...can you multiply that high??? doubt

it..."symptomatic

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relief" only ditzball... [6x3x$1500=$27,000.00 for 18--rb]

A treatment session lasts about one hour, during which you can read,
listen to music, or relax comfortably. Most patients undergo 35 one-hour
sessions, once or twice a day, over the course of a few weeks. The cost is
$250.00 per treatment! 35 x $250.00 = $8,750.00. So where are you getting
"ripped off" at?--rb

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compared to cabg's etc. It will be though if
ever the pro meds get their greedy grubby hands on it.--rb

OK..multiply the above figures and you get WAY less than a cabg.....and

the

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EECP's joints I have visited ARE run by pro meds...cardiologists to be
exact...

Is that why the costs are so high? That's what i call shameless
profiteering.
Do you mean to tell me that a CABG costs less than $27,000.00? That's not
what i've heard!--rb

Medicare requires REAL docs be in charge of such treatment...

EECP is so simple that nurses could almost give it!--rb

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again...rubber balls...YOUR explanation please???

My explanation of what? Also would you please stop making these sexual
references to my genitalia please. I'm not trying to turn you on on purpose
you know.--rb

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maroon.....
hawki

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 7/16/2003 7:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time

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Me and many other's have already told you! You can't seem to "comprehend"
what we say.--rb

all "you and the others have told me" is that there is NO angiographic evidence

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Why I read and search the net of course!--rb

funny...not what the CEO of said company says they are collecting...

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Do you mean to tell me that a CABG costs less than $27,000.00? That's not

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what i've heard!--rb

you doofus...try seeing the CABG statement and what the insurance co
reimburses...way LESS than that...

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EECP is so simple that nurses could almost give it!--rb

rubber "brain" if you prefer..yep nurses DO IT...care to meet my good friend
Katie?? docs are NOT there at all...though it IS EVELLLLL organized meds that
order it..

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Medicare requires REAL docs be in charge of such treatment...

try documenting it...."being in charge" and "performing the
treatment"...yep...you would have NOOOO way of knowing there is a difference...

maroon

hawki

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: "rb" [email hidden]
Date: 7/16/2003 10:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time

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Whats so secret about how much your hubby's heart
surgery really cost unless the price is so high you're too embarrassed to
admit just how expensive these conventional treatments really are?--rb

actually rubber balls...it was truly a bargain at any cost!!!

Still too high to mention huh.

Rubber, it is irrelevant to the issues. Her husband had effective
treatment, and chelation for atherosclerosis is useless. What is so hard
about that simple concept for you to understand?

But then again didn't you mention your

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husband was one of these sellers for the drug companies!

I did not see her write that. Do you often make up things when you
cannot find something to plagiarize?

Did he sell so many

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useless and dangerous drugs that they basically gave him a free surgery? No
wonder you're so coy.--rb

You really are dumb. Even my friends wife had to pay for her surgery and
hospitalization, and he is chief of service at the hospital.

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the guy looks and feels oh....maybe 48 and he's pushing 64...you should be

so

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handsome....

They've got him now. It's only a matter of time before these anti
cholesterol drugs he's taking will wreck his liver and kidney's if his
arteries don't clog up again first in 5 or 6 years time! --rb

Sure. You do have proof of that? The meds work wonders.

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still waiting for YOUR explanation of EECP,,,which we all know you haven't

a

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clue about...

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You tell us all why chelation doesn't work again. We all want to have a
great laugh. We're fun people you know.--rb

Wrong. YOU explain why the before and after chelation angiography shows
no change and why you persist in cxlaiming it works.

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: Mark Probert

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Rubber, it is irrelevant to the issues. Her husband had effective
treatment, and chelation for atherosclerosis is useless. What is so hard
about that simple concept for you to understand?

I just had a thought...almost a funny....rubber brain suffers severe crushing
chest pain,,sweating,,arm pain..the whole enchilada...calls 911..paramedics
take him to the nearest "real" hospital...he is having a heart attack...

From beneath his oxygen mask he pleads "chelation,,chelation"...as the
attendings tell him he needs restored blood flow (arteries,,veins..who knows??)
NOW...not some pipe dream that somewhere in the distant future "they" might
find that chelation actually works to declog coronary arteries.

whatyathink RB chooses???

ding ding ding...

S/h/it will probably choose the chelation, as it is cheaper, but not
necessarily cost effective.

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: Mark Probert

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Rubber, it is irrelevant to the issues. Her husband had effective
treatment, and chelation for atherosclerosis is useless. What is so hard
about that simple concept for you to understand?

I just had a thought...almost a funny....rubber brain suffers severe

crushing

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chest pain,,sweating,,arm pain..the whole enchilada...calls

911..paramedics

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take him to the nearest "real" hospital...he is having a heart attack...

From beneath his oxygen mask he pleads "chelation,,chelation"...as the
attendings tell him he needs restored blood flow (arteries,,veins..who

knows??)

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NOW...not some pipe dream that somewhere in the distant future "they"

might

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find that chelation actually works to declog coronary arteries.

whatyathink RB chooses???

ding ding ding...

hawki
hawki

Chelation doesn't do squat for clogged arteries. Nadda thing.

Correctomundo!

Except that

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you might have a little less money in your pocket for ice cream desserts
perhaps.

That may benefit, since the patient will cut down on the fat laden ice
cream and lower their cholesterol.

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Peter Bowditch said:

Mark Probert said:

chutzpah

Careful, Mark. Words like that might identify you as a "New Yorker".
(Wink, wink, know what I mean?)

Sure do. Dontcha just love buzzwords?

Hey! Using code words that the rest of us don't understand isn't Kosher!

;o) Rich

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: Mark Probert

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Rubber, it is irrelevant to the issues. Her husband had effective
treatment, and chelation for atherosclerosis is useless. What is so hard
about that simple concept for you to understand?

I just had a thought...almost a funny....rubber brain suffers severe

crushing

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chest pain,,sweating,,arm pain..the whole enchilada...calls

911..paramedics

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take him to the nearest "real" hospital...he is having a heart attack...

From beneath his oxygen mask he pleads "chelation,,chelation"...as the
attendings tell him he needs restored blood flow (arteries,,veins..who

knows??)

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NOW...not some pipe dream that somewhere in the distant future "they"

might

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find that chelation actually works to declog coronary arteries.

whatyathink RB chooses???

ding ding ding...

hawki
hawki

Chelation doesn't do squat for clogged arteries. Nadda thing. Except that
you might have a little less money in your pocket for ice cream desserts
perhaps.

Stuart, please stop being reasonable at once. It's too
disorienting when you do that.

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