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  1. In said:

    Seems like some of these dozy twits should at least look at the toxicity of
    some of these things.
    Easy enough - most of them are listed with warnings.

    Then you get bozos like Scudamore who think that we could do
    without measles vaccines if we just administered massive
    amounts of vitamin A to kids.

    I'm not fooling -- that's precisely one of the things he
    posts on misc.kids.health

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  2. Chiropractor's license to be revoked
    Secor man doesn't admit to allegations in injury of child

    July 26, 2003

    By MIKE RAMSEY

    of Copley News Service

    CHICAGO - A Woodford County chiropractor agreed Friday to have his state
    license revoked but did not admit culpability in the health problems of a
    small child he allegedly harmed through alternative medical treatments.

    Michael T. Detweiler's "stipulation" to that effect followed a private
    conference at the Chicago offices of the Illinois Department of Professional
    Regulation, agency spokesman Tony Sanders said.

    "He did not admit to any of our allegations, but he did agree to the license
    revocation," Sanders said.

    IDPR officials temporarily suspended Detweiler's license earlier this month,
    pending disciplinary hearings.

    They say the Secor resident, who has a clinic in Eureka, was "grossly
    negligent" in prescribing alternative treatments, including toxic amounts of
    Vitamin A, for a 10-month-old boy beginning in April 2001.

    Detweiler allegedly failed to identify the harmful effects during two dozen
    office visits over the next two years. The child, now age 3 and identified
    only by his initials, "N.D.," has a variety of health problems, mental
    "retardation" and will need a liver transplant because of damage to the
    organ, officials say.
    Revocation of Detweiler's license must be approved by the Illinois Medical
    Disciplinary Board and acting DPR Director Patrick D. Hughes.

    Detweiler could seek to regain his revoked license later but would face an
    even tougher hearing process, Sanders said.

    "I would never say never, but certainly it does put more of a burden on him
    in trying to get back in the profession of chiropractic medicine," Sanders
    said.

    Detweiler and his attorneys could not be reached for comment.

    He was not licensed to practice medicine beyond the chiropractic field, but
    a former assistant and patients recently told the Journal Star that
    Detweiler performed acupuncture and prescribed vitamins and other
    supplements as part of a "holistic" approach to treatment. Patients
    reportedly consulted him for colds and flu-like symptoms.

  3. Seems like some of these dozy twits should at least look at the toxicity of
    some of these things.
    Easy enough - most of them are listed with warnings.
    Anth

    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Nana Weedkiller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Chiropractor's license to be revoked
    Secor man doesn't admit to allegations in injury of child

    July 26, 2003

    By MIKE RAMSEY

    of Copley News Service

    CHICAGO - A Woodford County chiropractor agreed Friday to have his state
    license revoked but did not admit culpability in the health problems of


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    small child he allegedly harmed through alternative medical treatments.

    Michael T. Detweiler's "stipulation" to that effect followed a private
    conference at the Chicago offices of the Illinois Department of


    Professional

    Quoted message said:

    Regulation, agency spokesman Tony Sanders said.

    "He did not admit to any of our allegations, but he did agree to the


    license

    Quoted message said:

    revocation," Sanders said.

    IDPR officials temporarily suspended Detweiler's license earlier this


    month,

    Quoted message said:

    pending disciplinary hearings.

    They say the Secor resident, who has a clinic in Eureka, was "grossly
    negligent" in prescribing alternative treatments, including toxic


    amounts

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    Vitamin A, for a 10-month-old boy beginning in April 2001.

    Two similar cases have been reported in Australia. A naturopath was
    responsible. Vitamin A is toxic. In fact most vitamins are in
    overdosage.

    Peter MOran

    Quoted message said:

    Detweiler allegedly failed to identify the harmful effects during two


    dozen

    Quoted message said:

    office visits over the next two years. The child, now age 3 and


    identified

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    only by his initials, "N.D.," has a variety of health problems, mental
    "retardation" and will need a liver transplant because of damage to the
    organ, officials say.
    Revocation of Detweiler's license must be approved by the Illinois


    Medical

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Disciplinary Board and acting DPR Director Patrick D. Hughes.

    Detweiler could seek to regain his revoked license later but would face


    an

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    even tougher hearing process, Sanders said.

    "I would never say never, but certainly it does put more of a burden on


    him

    Quoted message said:

    in trying to get back in the profession of chiropractic medicine,"


    Sanders

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    said.

    Detweiler and his attorneys could not be reached for comment.

    He was not licensed to practice medicine beyond the chiropractic field,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    a former assistant and patients recently told the Journal Star that
    Detweiler performed acupuncture and prescribed vitamins and other
    supplements as part of a "holistic" approach to treatment. Patients
    reportedly consulted him for colds and flu-like symptoms.

  4. Hmmmmmm...........
    Just something to chew on in reference to conventional medicine.

    Epidemiology of medical error.
    Weingart, SN. et al.
    BMJ 2000;320:774-777 ( 18 March ).

    This article presents a review of current available information on the
    incidence and nature of medical errors in U.S. hospitals. Medical errors
    have been estimated to kill 48,000-98,000 Americans each year, and to injure
    an additional 1 million. These data, however, are likely to significantly
    underestimate the real extent of the problem, since they only refer to
    hospital patients, and are not inclusive of errors occurring in nursing
    homes and other health care settings. In addition, the methods used by
    investigators to identify adverse medical events can significantly affect
    the estimates of their prevalence. In a landmark study conducted by the
    University of Harvard, for example, where the researchers used a stringent
    definition of error, it was calculated that 3.7% of hospitalized patients
    experienced an adverse event, which was caused by errors -and was therefore
    preventable- in two-thirds of cases. In another study, where errors were
    detected through a computerized model, the incidence of adverse drug
    reactions in hospitalized patients was estimated to be 1.7%. On the other
    hand, when Bates and colleagues determined the incidence of adverse drug
    reactions by reviewing patients' medical charts and by conducting interviews
    with physicians, they found that 6.5% of hospitalized patients developed an
    adverse drug reaction, and another 5.5% developed a potential adverse drug
    reaction; these events were found to be caused by errors in 28% of cases.
    Furthermore, when trained observers who visited a general surgery unit where
    asked to evaluate the rate of adverse events, they reported that almost 50%
    of patients experienced an adverse event, which was serious in 18% of cases.
    Little research has been conducted on the extent of medical error outside
    hospital settings. One study revealed that drug-related complications occur
    in 18% of outpatients. Another study calculated that every year
    treatment-related complications result in 116 million additional physicians
    visits, 76 million prescriptions, 17 million emergency department visits, 8
    million hospital admissions, 3 million long-term care facility admissions,
    and 200,000 additional deaths, for a cost of $76.6 billion. These data
    indicate that the extent of injury caused by preventable errors occurring in
    health care settings is enormous, and the real dimension of the problem is
    largely unknown

    "Nana Weedkiller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Chiropractor's license to be revoked
    Secor man doesn't admit to allegations in injury of child

    July 26, 2003

    By MIKE RAMSEY

    of Copley News Service

    CHICAGO - A Woodford County chiropractor agreed Friday to have his state
    license revoked but did not admit culpability in the health problems of a
    small child he allegedly harmed through alternative medical treatments.

    Michael T. Detweiler's "stipulation" to that effect followed a private
    conference at the Chicago offices of the Illinois Department of


    Professional

    Quoted message said:

    Regulation, agency spokesman Tony Sanders said.

    "He did not admit to any of our allegations, but he did agree to the


    license

    Quoted message said:

    revocation," Sanders said.

    IDPR officials temporarily suspended Detweiler's license earlier this


    month,

    Quoted message said:

    pending disciplinary hearings.

    They say the Secor resident, who has a clinic in Eureka, was "grossly
    negligent" in prescribing alternative treatments, including toxic amounts


    of

    Quoted message said:

    Vitamin A, for a 10-month-old boy beginning in April 2001.

    Detweiler allegedly failed to identify the harmful effects during two


    dozen

    Quoted message said:

    office visits over the next two years. The child, now age 3 and identified
    only by his initials, "N.D.," has a variety of health problems, mental
    "retardation" and will need a liver transplant because of damage to the
    organ, officials say.
    Revocation of Detweiler's license must be approved by the Illinois Medical
    Disciplinary Board and acting DPR Director Patrick D. Hughes.

    Detweiler could seek to regain his revoked license later but would face an
    even tougher hearing process, Sanders said.

    "I would never say never, but certainly it does put more of a burden on


    him

    Quoted message said:

    in trying to get back in the profession of chiropractic medicine," Sanders
    said.

    Detweiler and his attorneys could not be reached for comment.

    He was not licensed to practice medicine beyond the chiropractic field,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    a former assistant and patients recently told the Journal Star that
    Detweiler performed acupuncture and prescribed vitamins and other
    supplements as part of a "holistic" approach to treatment. Patients
    reportedly consulted him for colds and flu-like symptoms.

  5. Lou said:

    Hmmmmmm...........
    Just something to chew on in reference to conventional medicine.

    Quoted message said:

    homes and other health care settings. In addition, the methods used by
    investigators to identify adverse medical events

    Define "adverse medical event" ... if I report agitation, itching
    and nausea after getting codeine for pain, is that "adverse"?

    Tsu

    --
    To doubt everything or to believe everything
    are two equally convenient solutions; both
    dispense with the necessity of reflection.
    - Jules Henri Poincaré

  6. Logical fallacy used: Tu Quoque (a.k.a., "you too"😉

    http://www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/longview/CTAC/fallacy.htm#Attacking%20the%20P
    erson

    http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#tuquoque

    http://gncurtis.home.texas.net/tuquoque.html

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Lou said:

    Hmmmmmm...........
    Just something to chew on in reference to conventional medicine.

    Epidemiology of medical error.
    Weingart, SN. et al.
    BMJ 2000;320:774-777 ( 18 March ).

    This article presents a review of current available information on the
    incidence and nature of medical errors in U.S. hospitals. Medical errors
    have been estimated to kill 48,000-98,000 Americans each year, and to injure
    an additional 1 million. These data, however, are likely to significantly
    underestimate the real extent of the problem, since they only refer to
    hospital patients, and are not inclusive of errors occurring in nursing
    homes and other health care settings. In addition, the methods used by
    investigators to identify adverse medical events can significantly affect
    the estimates of their prevalence. In a landmark study conducted by the
    University of Harvard, for example, where the researchers used a stringent
    definition of error, it was calculated that 3.7% of hospitalized patients
    experienced an adverse event, which was caused by errors -and was therefore
    preventable- in two-thirds of cases. In another study, where errors were
    detected through a computerized model, the incidence of adverse drug
    reactions in hospitalized patients was estimated to be 1.7%. On the other
    hand, when Bates and colleagues determined the incidence of adverse drug
    reactions by reviewing patients' medical charts and by conducting interviews
    with physicians, they found that 6.5% of hospitalized patients developed an
    adverse drug reaction, and another 5.5% developed a potential adverse drug
    reaction; these events were found to be caused by errors in 28% of cases.
    Furthermore, when trained observers who visited a general surgery unit where
    asked to evaluate the rate of adverse events, they reported that almost 50%
    of patients experienced an adverse event, which was serious in 18% of cases.
    Little research has been conducted on the extent of medical error outside
    hospital settings. One study revealed that drug-related complications occur
    in 18% of outpatients. Another study calculated that every year
    treatment-related complications result in 116 million additional physicians
    visits, 76 million prescriptions, 17 million emergency department visits, 8
    million hospital admissions, 3 million long-term care facility admissions,
    and 200,000 additional deaths, for a cost of $76.6 billion. These data
    indicate that the extent of injury caused by preventable errors occurring in
    health care settings is enormous, and the real dimension of the problem is
    largely unknown


    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  7. "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    In said:

    Seems like some of these dozy twits should at least look at the
    toxicity of some of these things.
    Easy enough - most of them are listed with warnings.

    Then you get bozos like Scudamore who think that we could do
    without measles vaccines if we just administered massive
    amounts of vitamin A to kids.

    I'm not fooling -- that's precisely one of the things he
    posts on misc.kids.health

    Scudamore is a proven idiot. The sad part is that there are some that
    actually believe him.

    r

    --
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
    magic."

    Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - ), "Technology and the Future"

  8. In said:

    Scudamore is a proven idiot. The sad part is that there are some that
    actually believe him.

    He does have his redeeming qualities. Did you track the
    times when he and Jan were pinging off of each other?

    Better than professional pig wrestling.

    --
    | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make |
    | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay |
    | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
    end

  9. Quoted message said:
    In said:

    Scudamore is a proven idiot. The sad part is that there are some that
    actually believe him.

    He does have his redeeming qualities. Did you track the
    times when he and Jan were pinging off of each other?

    Better than professional pig wrestling.

    Really? Do you have an URL or a topic so I can check the google archive?

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Orac said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter Moran said:

    Two similar cases have been reported in Australia. A naturopath was
    responsible. Vitamin A is toxic. In fact most vitamins are in
    overdosage.

    Indeed. Although it's difficult to ingest toxic levels of the
    water-soluble vitamins, it is not difficult at all to overdose on the
    fat-soluble vitamins (vitamins A, D, E, and K). More is not necessarily
    better, contrary to what some of these "naturopaths" preach.

    Oh, it's not all that difficult to overdose on some water-soluble
    vitamins, B3 and B6 in particular.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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