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Re: 'Laetrile' in science

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  1. Quoted message said:

    Not so correct as I have proved.

    I don't know what you mean. You've suggested to me that the Sugiura
    experiments were never repeated. Then you tell me that you know of two cases
    where it was, but done improperly. You've not sent me nor posting anything
    that verifies that. Still, you have acknowledged that Moss lied about his
    employment and lied about the experiements. Despite this, you think that Dr
    Barrett is the one being dishonest.

    Please tell me what SPECIFICALLY makes you believe that Laetrile is a VALID
    treatment and that it is being suppressed as part of a conspiracy by
    oncologists (and perhaps others).

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    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    Because it's one sided.
    Anth

    He also puts in a complete bibliography plus links to the "other" side.


    That's

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    a pretty admirable practice. Obviously, one may take the view that Dr


    Barrett

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    is against alt-med and is therefore unqualified to speak out against them.
    However, he does supply his reasoning on a case by case basis.

    Discounting a while documented paper simply on the basis of the author is


    not a

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    good idea. People you or I find odious may well be correct in their


    matters of

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    fact. If you disagree with Dr Barrett viz-a-viz Laetrile, what specific
    citation/quote/statistic do you dispute?


    [snip]

  2. I didn't suggest that Sugiura experiments were never repeated.
    And No I don't think Dr Barret is being dishonest.

    Quoted message said:

    Please tell me what SPECIFICALLY makes you believe that Laetrile is a


    VALID

    Quoted message said:

    treatment and that it is being suppressed as part of a conspiracy by
    oncologists (and perhaps others).

    Laetrile prevented metastasis in mice (as I've said many times)
    It is a potential palliative.

    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not so correct as I have proved.

    I don't know what you mean. You've suggested to me that the Sugiura
    experiments were never repeated. Then you tell me that you know of two


    cases

    Quoted message said:

    where it was, but done improperly. You've not sent me nor posting


    anything

    Quoted message said:

    that verifies that. Still, you have acknowledged that Moss lied about his
    employment and lied about the experiements. Despite this, you think that


    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett is the one being dishonest.

    Please tell me what SPECIFICALLY makes you believe that Laetrile is a


    VALID

    Quoted message said:

    treatment and that it is being suppressed as part of a conspiracy by
    oncologists (and perhaps others).

    Quoted message said:

    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >Because it's one sided.
    >Anth

    He also puts in a complete bibliography plus links to the "other" side.


    That's

    Quoted message said:

    a pretty admirable practice. Obviously, one may take the view that Dr


    Barrett

    Quoted message said:

    is against alt-med and is therefore unqualified to speak out against


    them.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    However, he does supply his reasoning on a case by case basis.

    Discounting a while documented paper simply on the basis of the author


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not a

    Quoted message said:

    good idea. People you or I find odious may well be correct in their


    matters of

    Quoted message said:

    fact. If you disagree with Dr Barrett viz-a-viz Laetrile, what


    specific

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    citation/quote/statistic do you dispute?


    [snip]

  3. Quoted message said:

    I didn't suggest that Sugiura experiments were never repeated.

    Didn't you say, in a prior post, that they were improperly repeated?

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    And No I don't think Dr Barret is being dishonest.

    Well, I'll let Jan Drew rip you to shreds over that last comment!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Please tell me what SPECIFICALLY makes you believe that Laetrile is a


    VALID

    Quoted message said:

    treatment and that it is being suppressed as part of a conspiracy by
    oncologists (and perhaps others).

    Laetrile prevented metastasis in mice (as I've said many times)
    It is a potential palliative.

    Its not nearly as effective as chemo treatments given today. Heck its not even
    as good as placebo.

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    Anth

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