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Re: See Hulda Clark in NYC for $100

Jan · 2003-08-09T21:24:10+00:00

Subject: Re: See Hulda Clark in NYC for $100 From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 8/9/2003 12:42 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Subject: Re: See Hulda Clark in NYC for $100 From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 8/8/2003 7:39 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Eric Bohlman wrote: >> Uh huh. Don't be shy Eric, this is used for all those who believe in >> God's word that homosexuality is wrong. >> >> That''s rigid to you. > >You're the one who keeps bringing that particular subject up; I'm not the >one who make a point of talking about it here. Here's something I wrote on The Millenium Project a week or two back. Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES. Certainly. Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of reading the God Hates [censored] Lie #1 God does not hate [censored]. He loves everyone. Are you accusing me of lying, Jan? Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES. The words "God Hates [censored]" are the title of a web site belonging to the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. If you disagree with these words then you should make it clear that you think that the Reverend Fred Phelps is lying. Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES. Why don't you go to http://www.godhatesfags.com and see for yourself? It's a church web site. I cannot be lying by using another's words. Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES. site belonging to fire and brimstone gay bashing preacher Fred Phelps will be aware that the Bible has an explicit warning in Leviticus 18:22 which says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination". So why do you say fire and brimstone gay bashing?? Why don't you go to http://www.godhatesfags.com and see for yourself? It's a church web site. Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES. Preaching God's word is not bashing. Why don't you go to http://www.godhatesfags.com and see for yourself? It's a church web site. Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES. The problem with accepting this as an unbreakable commandment You have a problem there, it isn't a commandment. You are right, it is just words in the Bible. It no more mandates behaviour than, eg these instructions from Deuteronomy Ch 21: Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination". That's straight forward, what part is confusing?? What is confusing is the bit that you snipped below. No it's a diversion. I am only talking of one thing at the present. You OTOH are trying to muddy the waters, and I was talking to you anyway. Jan

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Jan
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9 August 2003, 21:24 UTC #1

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Subject: Re: See Hulda Clark in NYC for $100
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 8/9/2003 12:42 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
(Jan) said:
Quoted message said:
Subject: Re: See Hulda Clark in NYC for $100
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 8/8/2003 7:39 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
Eric Bohlman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> Uh huh. Don't be shy Eric, this is used for all those who believe in
>> God's word that homosexuality is wrong.
>>
>> That''s rigid to you.
>
>You're the one who keeps bringing that particular subject up; I'm not the
>one who make a point of talking about it here.
Here's something I wrote on The Millenium Project a week or two back.
Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES.
Certainly.
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Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of reading the God Hates [censored]
Lie #1 God does not hate [censored]. He loves everyone.
Are you accusing me of lying, Jan?
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Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES.
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The words "God Hates [censored]" are the
title of a web site belonging to the Westboro Baptist Church in
Topeka, Kansas. If you disagree with these words then you should make
it clear that you think that the Reverend Fred Phelps is lying.
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Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES.
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Why don't you go to http://www.godhatesfags.com and see for yourself?
It's a church web site.
I cannot be lying by using another's words.
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Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES.
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site belonging to fire and brimstone gay bashing preacher Fred Phelps
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will be aware that the Bible has an explicit warning in Leviticus
18:22 which says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind:
it is abomination".

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So why do you say fire and brimstone gay bashing??
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Why don't you go to http://www.godhatesfags.com and see for yourself?
It's a church web site.
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Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES.
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Preaching God's word is not bashing.
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Why don't you go to http://www.godhatesfags.com and see for yourself?
It's a church web site.
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Perhaps Jan might like to point out the LIES.
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The problem with accepting this as an unbreakable commandment
You have a problem there, it isn't a commandment.
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You are right, it is just words in the Bible. It no more mandates
behaviour than, eg these instructions from Deuteronomy Ch 21:
Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind:
it is abomination".
<snip>
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That's straight forward, what part is confusing??
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What is confusing is the bit that you snipped below.
No it's a diversion.
I am only talking of one thing at the present. You OTOH are trying to muddy the
waters, and I was talking to you anyway.
Jan

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Peter Bowditch
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10 August 2003, 00:06 UTC #2

(Jan) said:
I am only talking of one thing at the present. You OTOH are trying to muddy the
waters, and I was talking to you anyway.
Ah, this explains why Jan doesn't get the point of Robert's bleeding
children quote. She has confused Roger Waters with Muddy Waters.
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Jan
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10 August 2003, 00:44 UTC #3

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Subject: Re: See Hulda Clark in NYC for $100
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 8/9/2003 4:06 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
(Jan) said:
I am only talking of one thing at the present. You OTOH are trying to muddy

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waters, and I was talking to you anyway.
Ah, this explains why Jan doesn't get the point of Robert's bleeding
children quote. She has confused Roger Waters with Muddy Waters.
You were confused and still have not corrected your mistake.
As a matter of fact you repeated it.
That along with your lies, tells me all I need to know.
Jan

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Rich Shewmaker
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10 August 2003, 01:03 UTC #4

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That along with your lies, tells me all I need to know.
Jan
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Tsu Dho Nimh
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10 August 2003, 15:07 UTC #5

(Jan) said:
Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind:
it is abomination".
How about the following from Leviticus, that are ignored today:
19:16
Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy
people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy
neighbour; I am the LORD.
(have you stopped gossiping and spreading information that you
have not seen proven?)
19:23:25
And when ye shall come into the land, and shall have planted
all manner of trees for food, then ye shall count the fruit
thereof as uncircumcised: three years shall it be as
uncircumcised unto you: it shall not be eaten of.
But in the fourth year all the fruit thereof shall be holy to
praise the LORD withal.
And in the fifth year shall ye eat of the fruit thereof, that
it may yield unto you the increase thereof: I am the LORD your
God.
(are you sure all the fruit you eat came from trees five years
of age and over?)
20:10
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife,
even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the
adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
20:11
And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered
his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to
death; their blood shall be upon them. If a man has sex
with his daughter in law, kill them both
20:12
And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall
surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood
shall be upon them.
(Are you willing to kill all adulterers? and a large number of
those who appear on the Jerry Springer show?)
BTW:
Your God sanctions lying in order to persuade, so you are not
going to fry in Hell:
1 Kg.22:21-22
"And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord,
and said, I will persuade him .. I will go forth and be a lying
spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt
persuade him and prevail also; go forth and do so."
And the Apostel Paul admits guile (deciet)
Second Corinthians 12:16
But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being
crafty, I caught you with guile.
Tsu
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To doubt everything or to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both
dispense with the necessity of reflection.
- Jules Henri Poincaré

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