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  1. This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"
    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=ff08daf.0309060500.2d3bd666%40posting.google.com
    and his insistence on continuing to write about me and post to
    newsgroups he knows I read even though he had claimed before that he
    was going to completely forget about me. This will by no means be my
    only message, for as long as BitingHeart continues to post his lies
    about me, I am going to continue to elaborate on the truth of the
    matter.

    About me: "BitingHeart" met me a few years ago, after I had been
    posting messages to a newsgroup about difficulties being able to do
    what I used to enjoy. I elaborated to him that I was depressed over
    losing my "fire" (my ability to imagine,invent and create works), so
    he knew full well what was going on with me. I elaborated to him *in
    detail* exactly what the problems were. But he seems to have no clue
    as to how this can impact a person. ...No clue *at all*. Most of my
    life I was a "least female", which means I did not enjoy the "power"
    more outgoing girls and women do. Like Kurt Cobain, I was a
    hypersensitive introvert who turned to gifts and talents in order to
    have a place in the world. My "power" was in the work I used to enjoy
    doing, but when I started to wake up and found it just wasn't as
    coming as easily any more, I sank into depression. This was made
    worse when I lost my main source of income due to the economy -- a
    large company I was on contract with, that decided to cut corners by
    eliminating all of its contract and other "extra" people.

    (To which BitingHeart will probably respond that this is "being
    manipulative", despite the fact that THIS IS A VERY REAL FACTOR IN MY
    DAILY EXISTENCE.) I never assumed that any human being could fix what
    was wrong, and I told him so. Generally, I keep to myself most of the
    time, and I don't talk about this except to others who might be able
    to relate (not many, FWIW). Somehow people "find" me themselves and
    think they have an easy cure, when it isn't something that can be
    remedied that easily, apparently. I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry
    for me, either, but I feel I must clarify due to the outrageous nature
    of "BitingHeart's" lies.

    About "BitingHeart": he is in his mid 20s, has never held down a
    steady job, still lives with his parents and so has not experienced
    some of the hard knocks of life. Apparently he has an attraction to
    older women, including older women who are having difficulty going
    through life changes. He is a fan of Nirvana and Kurt Cobain, whom
    ironically suffered a similar depression due to his "fire" going out.
    Yet apparently if you're female you are not allowed to feel the same
    way Cobain felt.

    I'll admit that the timing of his final visit was poorly planned on my
    part. That was my fault and I take the blame for it. However, that
    he insists on continuing to LIE about me warrants response. His words
    are vicious lies, nothing more. I can't even begin to describe how
    vicious, ignorant and untrue they are.

    This message is in response to specifically the section, "Lies of
    victimhood and manipulation". That whole section is one huge,
    vicious, ignorant LIE in regards to his speculation about my
    situation. He claims I was "lying" and "putting on an act" when the
    truth is that I was in a depression so severe I could not remember
    what I did the day before. Imagine your mind and body going haywire
    and you feel as though you are completely losing control. Imagine
    waking up disoriented, and needing to take time just to remember who
    you are and what you're doing there -- after having spent many years
    on top of things. And then someone who claims they are your friend
    declares that you are only "putting on an act" and that you are "evil
    and have no soul". What kind of an idiot would claim that somebody
    was "putting on an act" when they were depressed over being
    unemployed, found themselves losing their skills and identity and were
    in danger of losing their home???? This is the magnitude of
    BitingHeart's total lack of empathy and understanding. Yes, I USED to
    be "strong enough". But then I started losing my "magic", and I felt
    lost. Even powerful creatures like lions will starve and die if they
    lose their place in their world. Yes, I was "getting worse and worse"
    -- because I found I was no longer as able to escape into the
    activities that had given my life joy and meaning before, not to
    mention realizing I was not as able to fend for myself as well as I
    had before. Does he think Kurt Cobain was *also* "putting on an act"
    or "lying" about his state of being, after he lost his "fire"?

    (What is so outrageously ironic about that section is that "poor"
    Bitingheart whines and whines as if he is being "victimized" by all
    the "females" in his life, putting on airs as if we should all feel
    sorry for him.)

    "BitingHeart" accuses others of being "manipulative", yet he is one of
    THE most manipulative persons I've ever met. He behaves as though he
    was alternately spoiled rotten and punished sternly (as well as
    entitled to have his way *all the time*), and so learned to resort to
    a "look how cute and innocent I am" act in order to get away with
    whatever transgression he committed. I have yet to read him telling
    the "whole story" on *anything*. Take for example the paragraph where
    he elaborates on "the manipulativeness of females". He cites an
    incident in which he had come to visit me for a holiday, but which had
    unfortunately gone awry as a promise to receive work had fallen
    through. I was left in a panic.

    Notice how he sort of skims over the reasons I was not in the best of
    spirits. Oh, he writes, "she says it's due to lack of work blah blah
    blah"... Notice how he MINIMIZES an event that is well-recognized and
    documented as having a major impact on a person:
    http://xtramsn.co.nz/health/0,,8072-2550157,00.html
    http://www.healthyplace.com/communities/depression/related/work_2.asp
    http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:2Yg2Q9Hr9wcJ:www.isr.umich.edu/src/seh/mprc/Job%2520Loss%2520Hard%2520times%2520and%2520eroded%2520identity.pdf+suicide+job+loss&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
    http://www.befrienders.org/suicide/warning.htm
    http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/whattodo.htm
    http://www.cwru.edu/stuaff/ucs/Depression.htm
    http://www.psu.edu/ouic/orientation100/T9/depress.html

    Not only this, but part of the depression was due to midlife changes,
    so I was experiencing a double-whammy. In midlife, hormonal levels of
    your body begin to change, and society has a different set of
    expectations for you; this is something that not every individual can
    handle as well, especially someone who has always had difficulty
    socializing and having the safety net of a social circle (like me).
    BitingHeart, let's see where you are when you are pushing 30 or 40 and
    start to lose the looks you are so vain over; your parents are
    becoming aged and decrepit and you suddenly realize you don't have the
    safety nets you once did. Let's see if you can still put on the "cute
    and innocent little boy" act *then*.

    All of the above is the absolute and honest truth, and if
    "BitingHeart" continues to claims it isn't, karma is going to visit
    him big-time.

    "BitingHeart" the tadpole has absolutely NO CLUE what it's like for a
    person who was formerly successful in their field for 20 years, to
    suddenly lose the status and security they had all those years and
    find themselves virtually defenseless in a world that they never
    really fit into, or cared for in the first place. (It wasn't just a
    job, either -- it was a major part of my identity and what gave me the
    most joy in life.) It isn't a problem that only happens to "females",
    either, although the societal expectations for "females" (i.e. being
    less valued when you're older; being people-oriented when you aren't)
    certainly don't help.

    Another huge example of BitingHeart's apparent manipulativeness is his
    claim that depressed people are "draining" to him, and supposedly the
    reason he no longer wanted to be my friend (--not that I would want
    him for a friend at this point anyways, if that's what he assumes).
    Little did I know he was carrying on an affair of sorts with another
    woman who lived several miles from me -- a woman who was *also* quite
    troubled, perhaps even more so. This woman was so emotional that she
    spent two hours in a movie lobby crying to her friend on the phone
    because she was asked not to talk during the movie. Of course, she
    happened to be BitingHeart's preferred body type while I am thinner
    than he would like. This is only speculation, but it appears that
    perhaps that *this* is the true reason BitingHeart treated me like
    dirt. But instead of being more honest, of course, BitingHeart
    instead placed all the blame on me. ...For being depressed. For
    being troubled. Meanwhile carrying on an affair with another
    depressed and troubled woman -- a housewife on the verge of divorce
    and having little prospect of employment. (In other words, lying to
    me about the whole bit about not wanting to deal with depressed and
    troubled personalities). In fact, from what I understand he may have
    been the cause of the breakup of her marriage -- after which she was
    kicked out of her house. The last I heard she was staying at a
    friend's house and I have no idea what happened to her after that.
    This just goes to show you how reckless, self-centered and ignorant
    "BitingHeart" is; apparently not so truly concerned about the
    well-being of those he claims are his friends as much as the ability
    to get some easy nookie.

    BitingHeart, if you keep posting your [censored] I am going to continue to
    elaborate on the real truth to the situation, so your choice is to
    either rescind your lies and live up to your claim of "forgetting
    about me", or regret what's going to come next. And if you are
    depressed and female, STAY AWAY from this person. He will pretend to
    try to help you but in fact will make you worse, making you feel
    guilty for not being happy!

  2. "The Other Side Of The Story" <[email hidden]>
    schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"

    <cut pathetic whining>

    Tell it to someone who gives a fsck.

    --
    The Revanchist
    'Revenge is mine' saith the Lord, 'so, let's talk franchising.'
    TLC (tinlc)(tm) #2002, F6C, GSF1200S, BgR, Pr.Int. BKfiPv.
    revanchist [at] shh [.] com / revanchist [at] livjournal [.] com
    http://revanchist.livjournal.com

  3. Quoted message said:


    Bubba said:

    "The Other Side Of The Story"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"


    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=ff08daf.0309060500.2d3bd666%40posting.google.com

    <SNIP>

    Quoted message said:


    About me: "BitingHeart" met me a few years ago, after I had been
    posting messages to a newsgroup about difficulties being able to do
    what I used to enjoy.

    OK, so you were having a problem reaching an orgasm, right?

    Nope.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Most of my life I was a "least female", which means I did not enjoy


    the

    Quoted message said:

    "power"

    Quoted message said:

    more outgoing girls and women do.

    OK, so you weren't getting laid as often as you would have liked,


    either.

    Nope. This has *nothing* to do with sex, my ability to get sex or
    whatever else *you* projected it to be about, idiot. It's about
    somebody actively broadcasting lies about me -- someone whom I wish
    would just go away, or at least quit lying. ...Kind of says a lot
    about *your own* limited, idiotic level of existence if that's what
    you thought it was about.

    <snip rest of idiocy, which was 100% wrong. Of course, with a name
    like "Bubba"@TrailerTrash.com", what else could one expect?>

  4. "The Other Side Of The Story" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Bubba said:

    "The Other Side Of The Story"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"

    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=ff08daf.0309060500.2d3bd666%40post


    ing.google.com

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    <SNIP>

    Quoted message said:


    About me: "BitingHeart" met me a few years ago, after I had been
    posting messages to a newsgroup about difficulties being able to do
    what I used to enjoy.

    OK, so you were having a problem reaching an orgasm, right?

    Nope.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Most of my life I was a "least female", which means I did not enjoy


    the

    Quoted message said:

    "power"

    Quoted message said:

    more outgoing girls and women do.

    OK, so you weren't getting laid as often as you would have liked,


    either.

    Nope. This has *nothing* to do with sex, my ability to get sex or
    whatever else *you* projected it to be about, idiot. It's about
    somebody actively broadcasting lies about me -- someone whom I wish
    would just go away, or at least quit lying. ...Kind of says a lot
    about *your own* limited, idiotic level of existence if that's what
    you thought it was about.

    <snip rest of idiocy, which was 100% wrong. Of course, with a name
    like "Bubba"@TrailerTrash.com", what else could one expect?>

    Aaahhh, just as I thought Tinker Bell. You have been actively monitoring
    the Newsgroups that you posted your drivel to, hoping against hope for any
    shreds of sympathy. Move on. Get a friggin' life. He used you. So what?
    You used him too. Women prefer to have love when having, sex. On the other
    hand, men only require the opportunity and a place. For a middle-aged
    woman, you certainly are naive.

  5. On 6 Sep 2003 20:25:54 -0700, [email hidden]

    (The Other Side Of The Story) said:

    He currently
    absolves himself of any and all transgressions since according to him,
    the "female" is always in the wrong. That's when he becomes a
    dangerous personality. (And again, this is not spoken out of a
    personal vendetta over a failed relationship, but from observing
    continued reckless and irresponsible behavior).

    A brief google on this "bitingheart" makes one wonder why any woman with
    an IQ above 3 would get involved with him in the first place.

    GD
    Recognized as a good citizen of alt.revenge

  6. "Bubba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "The Other Side Of The Story" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Bubba said:

    "The Other Side Of The Story"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
    > This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"
    >

    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=ff08daf.0309060500.2d3bd666%40post


    ing.google.com

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    <SNIP>
    >
    > About me: "BitingHeart" met me a few years ago, after I had been
    > posting messages to a newsgroup about difficulties being able to do
    > what I used to enjoy.

    OK, so you were having a problem reaching an orgasm, right?

    Nope.

    Quoted message said:

    > Most of my life I was a "least female", which means I did not enjoy


    the
    "power"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > more outgoing girls and women do.

    OK, so you weren't getting laid as often as you would have liked,


    either.

    Nope. This has *nothing* to do with sex, my ability to get sex or
    whatever else *you* projected it to be about, idiot. It's about
    somebody actively broadcasting lies about me -- someone whom I wish
    would just go away, or at least quit lying. ...Kind of says a lot
    about *your own* limited, idiotic level of existence if that's what
    you thought it was about.

    <snip rest of idiocy, which was 100% wrong. Of course, with a name
    like "Bubba"@TrailerTrash.com", what else could one expect?>

    Aaahhh, just as I thought Tinker Bell. You have been actively monitoring
    the Newsgroups that you posted your drivel to, hoping against hope for any
    shreds of sympathy. Move on. Get a friggin' life. He used you. So what?
    You used him too. Women prefer to have love when having, sex. On the other
    hand, men only require the opportunity and a place. For a middle-aged
    woman, you certainly are naive.

    You seem to be assuming a hell of a lot. Try reading the damn post instead
    of just reading what you wish the post was.

  7. "The Other Side Of The Story" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Bubba said:

    "The Other Side Of The Story"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"

    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=ff08daf.0309060500.2d3bd666%40post


    ing.google.com

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    <SNIP>

    Quoted message said:


    About me: "BitingHeart" met me a few years ago, after I had been
    posting messages to a newsgroup about difficulties being able to do
    what I used to enjoy.

    OK, so you were having a problem reaching an orgasm, right?

    Nope.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Most of my life I was a "least female", which means I did not enjoy


    the

    Quoted message said:

    "power"

    Quoted message said:

    more outgoing girls and women do.

    OK, so you weren't getting laid as often as you would have liked,


    either.

    Nope. This has *nothing* to do with sex, my ability to get sex or
    whatever else *you* projected it to be about, idiot. It's about
    somebody actively broadcasting lies about me -- someone whom I wish
    would just go away, or at least quit lying. ...Kind of says a lot
    about *your own* limited, idiotic level of existence if that's what
    you thought it was about.

    <snip rest of idiocy, which was 100% wrong. Of course, with a name
    like "Bubba"@TrailerTrash.com", what else could one expect?>

    Oy.... Replying to troll posts only makes the trolling continue. In fact,
    you really would be better off ignoring both this and the original poster.
    Anyone without sexual prejudice and half-decent intelligence can see that
    these people are wrong, anyway. Those who can't aren't really worth
    bothering yourself with.
    It's enough to visit the website that BitingHeart gathered his "facts" from.
    Whatever disturbed individual put that thing together openly admits that he
    believes 99% of all women to be a kind of soul-sucking vampires. He also
    claims that men go from a boyish appearance to what he calls cavemanlike
    exclusively as a result of this alleged mystical psychic influence. This
    shift in appearance includes increased growth of body hair and "bumps on the
    skull". He calls testosterone "the gentle giant chemical", while
    conveniently ignoring the absolute medical *fact* that testosterone is the
    direct cause of those physiological changes. No buts about that. Feed
    testosterone to a girl, and she will grow up to look very masculine - it has
    been done. What is still not sure is what psychological effect it has.
    He believes in magical practices to repel these attacks by female vampires,
    and explains means of returning their harmful energy to them, so that it is
    they who get a dose of caveman.
    If that is not enough to convince someone that this guy has a serious case
    of bats in the belfry, I don't know what is.
    Let it go and move on. Nobody *really* cares what is said on newsgroups,
    anyway :-)

  8. "The Other Side Of The Story" <[email hidden]>
    schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Wrong *again*, Bubba Boy. The fact is that he initiates posts to
    newsgroups I *regularly* read -- those in which I both know and engage
    in debate with other regulars.

    Since when have you been a regular contributor to news:alt.revenge?

    --
    The Revanchist
    'Revenge is mine' saith the Lord, 'so, let's talk franchising.'
    TLC (tinlc)(tm) #2002, F6C, GSF1200S, BgR, Pr.Int. BKfiPv.
    revanchist [at] shh [.] com / revanchist [at] livjournal [.] com
    http://revanchist.livjournal.com

  9. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "The Other Side Of The Story" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Bubba said:

    "The Other Side Of The Story"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
    > This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"
    >

    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=ff08daf.0309060500.2d3bd666%40post


    ing.google.com

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    <SNIP>
    >
    > About me: "BitingHeart" met me a few years ago, after I had been
    > posting messages to a newsgroup about difficulties being able to do
    > what I used to enjoy.

    OK, so you were having a problem reaching an orgasm, right?

    Nope.

    Quoted message said:

    > Most of my life I was a "least female", which means I did not enjoy


    the
    "power"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > more outgoing girls and women do.

    OK, so you weren't getting laid as often as you would have liked,


    either.

    Nope. This has *nothing* to do with sex, my ability to get sex or
    whatever else *you* projected it to be about, idiot. It's about
    somebody actively broadcasting lies about me -- someone whom I wish
    would just go away, or at least quit lying. ...Kind of says a lot
    about *your own* limited, idiotic level of existence if that's what
    you thought it was about.

    <snip rest of idiocy, which was 100% wrong. Of course, with a name
    like "Bubba"@TrailerTrash.com", what else could one expect?>

    Oy.... Replying to troll posts only makes the trolling continue. In fact,
    you really would be better off ignoring both this and the original poster.
    Anyone without sexual prejudice and half-decent intelligence can see that
    these people are wrong, anyway. Those who can't aren't really worth
    bothering yourself with.
    It's enough to visit the website that BitingHeart gathered his "facts" from.
    Whatever disturbed individual put that thing together openly admits that he
    believes 99% of all women to be a kind of soul-sucking vampires. He also
    claims that men go from a boyish appearance to what he calls cavemanlike
    exclusively as a result of this alleged mystical psychic influence. This
    shift in appearance includes increased growth of body hair and "bumps on the
    skull". He calls testosterone "the gentle giant chemical", while
    conveniently ignoring the absolute medical *fact* that testosterone is the
    direct cause of those physiological changes. No buts about that. Feed
    testosterone to a girl, and she will grow up to look very masculine - it has
    been done. What is still not sure is what psychological effect it has.
    He believes in magical practices to repel these attacks by female vampires,
    and explains means of returning their harmful energy to them, so that it is
    they who get a dose of caveman.
    If that is not enough to convince someone that this guy has a serious case
    of bats in the belfry, I don't know what is.
    Let it go and move on. Nobody *really* cares what is said on newsgroups,
    anyway :-)

    I agree -- I just wanted to take this time to set the record straight,
    especially after what happened to the mutual friend who lived several
    miles from me. (Unfortunately, despite the crazy stuff he writes he
    still manages to get involved with people, and that particular
    incident shows that he is potentially reckless and dangerous. She
    wasn't even aware of his site or his views on "females"😉.

  10. [email hidden] (The Other Side Of The Story) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    This message is in reply to "BitingHeart's" screed on "females"
    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=ff08daf.0309060500.2d3bd666%40posting.google.com

    Quoted message said:


    About "BitingHeart": he is in his mid 20s, has never held down a
    steady job, still lives with his parents and so has not experienced
    some of the hard knocks of life. Apparently he has an attraction to
    older women, including older women who are having difficulty going
    through life changes.

    You know, I think you have an excellent shot at getting yourselves on
    the Jerry Springer Show......all three of you!

    QFU

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