Got my Degree results through 2 hours ago...

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Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

I know that feeling ;-) But major congrats on your degree!

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I'm pleased though, but not as chuffed as Ullrich! Wow, what a ride.

It was indeed.

Cheers, helen s

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MSA said:

2:1 BA (Hons)..in Business Studies.

Congrats.

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Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

My brother just had a similar experience, half a % off a 2.1.
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Ben said:

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Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

My brother just had a similar experience, half a % off a 2.1.

Huh? They give actual percentages these days?

20 years ago when I got my degree, it was just a classification. 10 years ago when I was (very
peripherally) involved in assessing students for theirs, likewise AFAIK ...

Is this something to do with university[1] league tables and competition?

[1] insofar as that is still meaningful ...

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In article <[email hidden]>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard of

Ben said:

Quoted message said:

Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

My brother just had a similar experience, half a % off a 2.1.

Huh? They give actual percentages these days?

20 years ago when I got my degree, it was just a classification. 10 years ago when I was (very
peripherally) involved in assessing students for theirs, likewise AFAIK ...

Is this something to do with university[1] league tables and competition?

[1] insofar as that is still meaningful ...

When I was doing my first degree (1980-83) we only got grades throughout the whole course and we
had no real idea about the weighting of these grades in the final result, which was itself just
the normal classification. When I did my Masters at a different university (1990-91) we were told
the percentages throughout and knew exactly what we had to achieve to gain a Distinction. My
understanding is that there was a change in practice during the late 80s as a result of data
protection legislation (or the threat of it). This might be wrong but the theory was certainly
current at the time. I'm surprised to read that you were awarding only classifications as
recently as 1993.

I found it much more motivating to know the actual percentage. It is much easier to identify
strengths and weaknesses and decide which subjects to concentrate on.
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Michael MacClancy said:

we had to achieve to gain a Distinction. My understanding is that there was a change in practice
during the late 80s as a result of data protection legislation (or the threat of it). This might
be wrong but the theory was certainly current at the time. I'm surprised to read that you were
awarding only classifications as recently as 1993.

Ah, that could well be. And I could easily have been mistaken; as I said, I was only very
peripherally involved: specifically (and in different capacities) I supervised a couple of student
projects, and wrote an external assessment for a PhD thesis, but I was never involved in the actual
awarding of degrees.

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I found it much more motivating to know the actual percentage. It is much easier to identify
strengths and weaknesses and decide which subjects to concentrate on.

I think you're probably right. Though I found it demotivating to know them at school, in the sense
that an A-grade was devalued by knowing it was impossible to miss. (Cambridge entrance exams were
another matter - they were a real challenge).

ObCycling: it's largely thanks to Cambridge's enlightned policies and the commute between Girton and
town I got started:-)

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Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

I know that feeling ;-) But major congrats on your degree!

Thanks Helen!

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I'm pleased though, but not as chuffed as Ullrich! Wow, what a ride.

It was indeed.

Now wondering what his performance will be like in the Pyrenees and in the last Time trial stage
which is really flat.

Great Tour this year, it's like watching a soap opera unfold as the days go on!

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Mark

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Cheers, helen s

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Ben said:

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Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

My brother just had a similar experience, half a % off a 2.1.

Huh? They give actual percentages these days?

It doesn't appear to be standard but it can be found out. When I got mine in 1999 they just gave the
classification unless you were borderline and wanted to appeal. I think that may be the case with my
brother's.
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20 years ago when I got my degree, it was just a classification. 10 years ago when I was (very
peripherally) involved in assessing students for theirs, likewise AFAIK ...

I was given a percentage when I got my 2:1 (in Electrical Engineering) back in 1989

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monkeys

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at the keyboard of Ben said:

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Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

My brother just had a similar experience, half a % off a 2.1.

Huh? They give actual percentages these days?

More to the point, people go on usenet 2 hours after getting degree results.

Were the pubs shut?

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in article [email hidden], Nick Kew at [email hidden] wrote on
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20 years ago when I got my degree, it was just a classification. 10 years ago when I was (very
peripherally) involved in assessing students for theirs, likewise AFAIK ...

I was given a percentage when I got my 2:1 (in Electrical Engineering)

back

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in 1989

I'm just wondering if I should appeal? I guess at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, I'm
in a steady job and I'm 36 years old. I suppose if I was younger I might push to try for a first.
The only trouble is that whenever anyone asks what I got I'll be saying, "well a 2:1, but I was only
1% from a first!".

Oh well, back to studying..Six Sigma Black Belt candidate now...exam in November :-(

One day it will all be over!

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monkeys

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at the keyboard of Ben said:

>Kinda gutted though because I got 69%....1% off a 1st. Bugger!

My brother just had a similar experience, half a % off a 2.1.

Huh? They give actual percentages these days?

More to the point, people go on usenet 2 hours after getting degree

results.

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Were the pubs shut?

Man, was it an anti-climax. I started phoning around to tell people and they were all friggin out! I
spent the night in with some tinnies! I came on Usenet just to get a response from someone...you
have to share the news eh?

PS: I'm not as sad as I sound :-)

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in article [email hidden], Nick Kew at [email hidden] wrote on
19/7/2003 12:19 pm:

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20 years ago when I got my degree, it was just a classification. 10 years ago when I was (very
peripherally) involved in assessing students for theirs, likewise AFAIK ...

I was given a percentage when I got my 2:1 (in Electrical Engineering)

back

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in 1989

I agree; I got my degree in 1987, and knew my percentages in all subjects.

...it was a first, but as it was in computer science, it's gets less relevant as the years go by.
Who needs to know about punch-cards and bubble memory now! (I just wish I brought some shares in
that small company that invented MS-DOS v.1...)

Regards,

Pete.

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I'm just wondering if I should appeal?

If you weren't offered a viva there's prolly no point :-/

Guy

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19/7/2003 5:50 pm:

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More to the point, people go on usenet 2 hours after getting degree results. Were the pubs shut?

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Man, was it an anti-climax. I started phoning around to tell people and they were all friggin out!

And they didn't invite you? Obviously you spent too much time working and not enough cultivating the
Right Sort of Friends ;-)

Guy

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...it was a first, but as it was in computer science, it's gets less relevant as the years go by.
Who needs to know about punch-cards and

bubble

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memory now! (I just wish I brought some shares in that small company that invented MS-DOS v.1...)

No point. They got about 50 bucks from the smart geek down the road and then went bust.

A few bob in that smart geeks outfit would have been nice though.

T

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in article [email hidden], MSA at [email hidden] wrote on 19/7/2003
2:46 pm:

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I'm just wondering if I should appeal?

If you weren't offered a viva there's prolly no point :-/

Well do they do that? It was standard practice for any borderline cases to get a viva, and I did
also overhear lecturers discussing "other factors" like timekeeping and getting things in on time.

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...it was a first, but as it was in computer science, it's gets less relevant as the years go
by. Who needs to know about punch-cards and

bubble

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memory now! (I just wish I brought some shares in that small company

that

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invented MS-DOS v.1...)

No point. They got about 50 bucks from the smart geek down the road and then went bust.

A few bob in that smart geeks outfit would have been nice though.

T

Well, you know what I mean! After 20 years, Tim Patterson and QDOS have pretty much been forgotten,
and the $50,000 is long spent!

I remember complaining, "Why do we have to use this MS-DOS thing, when CP/M is much better"....so
don't come to me for any share-dealing tips!

Regards,

Pete.

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Peter Connolly said:

...it was a first, but as it was in computer science, it's gets less relevant as the years go by.
Who needs to know about punch-cards and bubble memory now!

Erm, who needed to know about them then? I didn't in my first professional programming job in '83.

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(I just wish I brought some shares in that small company that invented MS-DOS v.1...)

AIUI when he sold up to Bill Gates, $50K was considered way overpriced.

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Michael MacClancy said:

When I was doing my first degree (1980-83) we only got grades throughout the whole course and we
had no real idea about the weighting of these grades in the final result,

When I did mine (1991-1995) we were given a percentage at the end, but no feedback during the
course. If we'd had feedback, I might have done a bit of work and done better than my 49% (just
missing out on a 2:1)
:-(

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