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  1. STEVE BAYT
    Parma/Brook Park Ohio

    SENATOR DURBIN'S AMERICAN HEALTH CRISIS

    PREFACE: Below this preface is an article that I have e-mailed to
    virtually every daily newspaper and many community weeklies, also to
    at least 20 am radio stations per state and most every local network
    affiliate.

    I am calling for readers, listeners and viewers to get
    Senator Durbin's Senate Bill 722, which would effectively make illegal
    virtually all health foods, supplements etc into newspapers, talk
    shows and news broadcasts until every Senator is on record as opposing
    this financial and lethal to millions bill.

    The article clearly elaborates on not just athletes'
    use of health foods but also the millions of people with diseases kept
    alive by supplements years or decades longer than standard medical
    treatments-with much less side effects. Also, about the deaths that
    would be involved in the inevitable black market of a demand of ten
    million users.

    Health food users should cancel their newspapers
    subscriptions, contact stores that sell supplements and the daily
    paper if their newspaper won't champion the cause against Senator
    Durbin. Either by publishing the below article, publishing ones by
    local readers or editorialists.

    This bill's enactment would also lead to billions of tax
    dollars in futile enforcement of banning something or extreme benefit
    to society. Thus, the amount of benefits of getting every Senator to
    publicly and legislatively oppose Senate Bill 722 unfathomably
    outweighs the detriment of excessive posting to newsgroups. I also
    encourage massive e-forwarding the below article, until the mainstream
    media can't ignore this potential fatal legislation.

    Calling in radio shows while on-air would also be
    effective.

    THE ARTICLE/LETTER:

    "These statements have not been evaluated by The Food and Drug
    Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure
    or prevent any disease."

    For 9 years , since the Dietary Supplement Health Act of 1994, that
    absurd disclaimer has been mandated by THE FOOD AND DRUG
    ADMINISTRATION on any Nutritional Supplement or health food..

    About ten million Americans have ignored the disclaimer and have
    indeed prevented getting many diseases and ailments, along with
    suureal athletic enhancement.

    Illinois Senator Richard Durbin's sponsored bill S. 722, if
    passed, would create an American Health Crisis worse than AIDS,
    virtually eliminating nutritional supplements.

    The prices of supplements if regulated would increase. For
    example, a present $2.00 container of 100 tablets, 500 mgs. Vitamin C
    would be $20.00. A $7.00 present container of 50 ct. Ginseng Complex
    would become a $80-$100 major purchase.

    Such a cost-driven price increase would financially prevent
    all but the most wealthy (who can afford health insurance) from
    obtaining the ounce of prevention supplements provide. Leaving
    tax-payers with a ton of cure ,curing low income supplement users.

    That is, until everything is eliminated due to the S. 722
    procedure of banning a supplement if even one complaint of ill
    effects is reported to The FDA.

    Despite the 1994 DSHEA ruling, supplements and herbs have
    provided health benefits for hundreds to thousands of years. If any
    change is needed it's abolishing the government mandated disclaimer.

    Evolving through the last quarter century or so, doctors are
    encouraging patients to take nutritional supplements, especially a
    month or so before surgery.

    While most medications (particular for AIDS) have extreme
    side effects worse than the diseases symptoms, the only significant
    side effect of what is called "megadosing" (consuming obsessive
    amounts of nutritional supplements) is excessive urination and or
    defecation.

    Although 60% of supplement usage is for athletic enhancement,
    40% is for disease prevention and overall health. Nationally,
    possibly up to a million people with incurable diseases, given short
    life spans, live years or decades beyond their predicted deaths
    replacing traditional medications with supplements. Most of them are
    assisted in their treatment choice by doctors.

    Those self healers would create a demand for black market
    supplements, complete with all the massive death associated with
    crime. Along with billions of tax dollars being spent prohibiting
    what is America's most beneficial commercial product.

    Supplements provide nutrients (mostly herbs) in needed amounts
    simply not obtainable in foods. For example, one would have to consume
    a car full of peanuts to equal the Vitamin E in a single 400 I.U Mixed
    Tocopherols softgel

    Many boxes of Total Cereal would be needed to equal the Vitamin
    B's of one B-50 Complex capsule.

    The government decided extremely low USRDA's are an epitome
    of the FDA's incompetence regarding America's health.

    There are thousands of herbs (only a hundred or so readily
    available) which provide immune enhancement critical for such diseases
    as HIV et al. Even the common cold or flu can be lessened with Vitamin
    C, Bioflavanoids and Echenecea.

    The one in a thousand harmful concoctions like Ephedera are
    quickly banished by consumerism with probably capitalism's most
    educated consumers. Snake-oil products are quickly off the shelf due
    to lack of demand.

    About ten million supplement users for years, decades or
    life extensively research before spending (for example) $12 on a 50 ct
    of Horse Chestnut. Virtually everyone who starts supplements for
    health and or athletics continues eternally. A small percent don't
    benefit. An infinitesimal amount which Senator Durbin is trying to
    protect get worse.

    While there are millions of cases of Natural Healing
    successes and thousands of athletic enhancement cases, there are no
    statistics kept on rare megadosing problems.

    Those with normal discretionary income simply can't afford
    the level of megadosing needed for the only risk of supplement
    taking-kidney damage due to the extreme urination-which takes (even
    with sales) at least $7,000 annually for many years.

    Finances and the social/work restraints of excessive
    urination prevents kidney damage years before possible.

    Senator Durbin's bill, if passed, would create initial
    giveaway sales and heath food stores closings. Initially, sales of
    pre-Durbin $20 supplements would be liquidated at $1,leading to
    supplement users stock piling. That is, before manufacturers go out of
    business.

    After the stockpiles are depleted, and the one in a million
    abuser reports a case to THE FDA eventually banning all supplements,
    mass sickness will ensue. America will have a nutritional deficiency
    similar to third world countries.

    For the first time in modern America, ten million
    supplement users and the entire country will go from having everything
    needed for health and athletics to primitive nutritional intake
    sources.

    No more MSN/Glucosamine for sore joints. No more Zinc
    Lozenges for sore throats. No more Calcium for Osteoporosis. No more
    anything for anything. Just a country subject to getting sick at the
    cost of billions of dollars public for subsidized health care of those
    Post Durbin former supplement users.

    And probably millions with diseases which supplements
    lessen the symptons ,will die. All because Senator Durbin sponsored a
    bill which would make AIDS comparatively look not so bad. And prevent
    those with AIDS from feeling any better

  2. Quoted message said:

    STEVE BAYT
    Parma/Brook Park Ohio

    SENATOR DURBIN'S AMERICAN HEALTH CRISIS

    PREFACE: Below this preface is an article that I have e-mailed to
    virtually every daily newspaper and many community weeklies, also to
    at least 20 am radio stations per state and most every local network
    affiliate.

    I am calling for readers, listeners and viewers to get
    Senator Durbin's Senate Bill 722, which would effectively make illegal
    virtually all health foods, supplements etc into newspapers, talk
    shows and news broadcasts until every Senator is on record as opposing
    this financial and lethal to millions bill.

    Actually, the bill would require the products to be FDA approved. In other
    words, they would have to be proven safe & effective. That is a far cry from
    declaring them to be illegal.

    Quoted message said:


    The article clearly elaborates on not just athletes'
    use of health foods but also the millions of people with diseases kept
    alive by supplements years or decades longer than standard medical
    treatments-with much less side effects. Also, about the deaths that
    would be involved in the inevitable black market of a demand of ten
    million users.

    Which supplements keep people alive for "years of decades longer than standard
    medical treatments..."?

    Quoted message said:


    "These statements have not been evaluated by The Food and Drug
    Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure
    or prevent any disease."

    For 9 years , since the Dietary Supplement Health Act of 1994, that
    absurd disclaimer has been mandated by THE FOOD AND DRUG
    ADMINISTRATION on any Nutritional Supplement or health food..

    About ten million Americans have ignored the disclaimer and have
    indeed prevented getting many diseases and ailments, along with
    suureal athletic enhancement.

    Uh, do you have the name of a single person who prevented a single disease as a
    direct result of taking supplements? Ephedra products have enhanced athletic
    performance for some, led others to heart & kidney problems.

    Quoted message said:

    Illinois Senator Richard Durbin's sponsored bill S. 722, if
    passed, would create an American Health Crisis worse than AIDS,
    virtually eliminating nutritional supplements.

    You think that a fatal, contagious disease like HIV is less of a problem than a
    lack of non-proven supplements being available OTC? I think somebody has OD'd
    on hyperbole.

    <snip balance of this dogmatic, uninformed scare-mongering>

  3. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    STEVE BAYT
    Parma/Brook Park Ohio

    SENATOR DURBIN'S AMERICAN HEALTH CRISIS

    PREFACE: Below this preface is an article that I have e-mailed to
    virtually every daily newspaper and many community weeklies, also to
    at least 20 am radio stations per state and most every local network
    affiliate.

    I am calling for readers, listeners and viewers to get
    Senator Durbin's Senate Bill 722, which would effectively make illegal
    virtually all health foods, supplements etc into newspapers, talk
    shows and news broadcasts until every Senator is on record as opposing
    this financial and lethal to millions bill.

    Actually, the bill would require the products to be FDA approved. In


    other

    Quoted message said:

    words, they would have to


    Be sponsered by BIG buisnes to have enough money to buy the FDA's
    "approval".

    Quoted message said:
  4. Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    STEVE BAYT
    Parma/Brook Park Ohio

    SENATOR DURBIN'S AMERICAN HEALTH CRISIS

    PREFACE: Below this preface is an article that I have e-mailed to
    virtually every daily newspaper and many community weeklies, also to
    at least 20 am radio stations per state and most every local network
    affiliate.

    I am calling for readers, listeners and viewers to get
    Senator Durbin's Senate Bill 722, which would effectively make illegal
    virtually all health foods, supplements etc into newspapers, talk
    shows and news broadcasts until every Senator is on record as opposing
    this financial and lethal to millions bill.

    Actually, the bill would require the products to be FDA approved. In


    other

    Quoted message said:

    words, they would have to


    Be sponsered by BIG buisnes to have enough money to buy the FDA's
    "approval".

    Considering how many big pharm companies produce supplements, it would seem
    that they would have quite a vested interest in proving vitamins to be safe and
    effective. The small companies can market their products in the wake of such
    evidence. There are only a limited number of vitamins & amino acids. There
    are perhaps 3 dozens "medicinal" herbs in _Common_ usage in the US.

    There is no reason why such highly touted supplements (the article credited
    them with prolonging lives by decades) can't pass muster for basic safety and
    efficacy claims.

  5. (Ilsa9) said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am calling for readers, listeners and viewers to get
    Senator Durbin's Senate Bill 722, which would effectively make illegal
    virtually all health foods, supplements etc into newspapers, talk
    shows and news broadcasts until every Senator is on record as opposing
    this financial and lethal to millions bill.

    Actually, the bill would require the products to be FDA approved. In other
    words, they would have to be proven safe & effective. That is a far cry from
    declaring them to be illegal.

    Perhaps the supplement pushers know that if they had to prove that
    their potions work before they could legally be sold then the potions
    would not be able to be legally sold.

    (Translation of the above paragraph available on request for
    comprehension-impaired alt believers.)

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  6. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    STEVE BAYT
    Parma/Brook Park Ohio

    SENATOR DURBIN'S AMERICAN HEALTH CRISIS

    PREFACE: Below this preface is an article that I have e-mailed to
    virtually every daily newspaper and many community weeklies, also to
    at least 20 am radio stations per state and most every local network
    affiliate.

    I am calling for readers, listeners and viewers to get
    Senator Durbin's Senate Bill 722, which would effectively make illegal
    virtually all health foods, supplements etc into newspapers, talk
    shows and news broadcasts until every Senator is on record as opposing
    this financial and lethal to millions bill.

    Actually, the bill would require the products to be FDA approved. In


    other

    Quoted message said:

    words, they would have to be proven safe & effective. That is a far cry


    from

    Quoted message said:

    declaring them to be illegal.

    Actually, SB722 does not even go so far as to "require the products to be
    FDA approved." What it does, precisely, is to require supplement
    manufacturers and sellers to report to the FDA any complaints of death or
    serious health deficits associated with supplement products. The only
    products specified in the bill requiring pre-approval by the FDA before
    being marketed are stimulants, steroids, and steroid precursors. And this
    applies only to newly marketed ones...existing products are grandfathered
    in. Anyone who wants to read the bill in its entirety may easily do so by
    going to www.senate.gov, clicking on the "legislation and records" tab, and
    typing "sb722" in the search box. Read it! This bill hardly "would
    effectively make illegal virtually all health foods, supplements, etc."

    --Rich

  7. Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    STEVE BAYT
    Parma/Brook Park Ohio

    SENATOR DURBIN'S AMERICAN HEALTH CRISIS

    PREFACE: Below this preface is an article that I have e-mailed to
    virtually every daily newspaper and many community weeklies, also to
    at least 20 am radio stations per state and most every local network
    affiliate.

    I am calling for readers, listeners and viewers to get
    Senator Durbin's Senate Bill 722, which would effectively make illegal
    virtually all health foods, supplements etc into newspapers, talk
    shows and news broadcasts until every Senator is on record as opposing
    this financial and lethal to millions bill.

    Actually, the bill would require the products to be FDA approved. In


    other

    Quoted message said:

    words, they would have to be proven safe & effective. That is a far cry


    from

    Quoted message said:

    declaring them to be illegal.

    Actually, SB722 does not even go so far as to "require the products to be
    FDA approved." What it does, precisely, is to require supplement
    manufacturers and sellers to report to the FDA any complaints of death or
    serious health deficits associated with supplement products. The only
    products specified in the bill requiring pre-approval by the FDA before
    being marketed are stimulants, steroids, and steroid precursors. And this
    applies only to newly marketed ones...existing products are grandfathered
    in. Anyone who wants to read the bill in its entirety may easily do so by
    going to www.senate.gov, clicking on the "legislation and records" tab, and
    typing "sb722" in the search box. Read it! This bill hardly "would
    effectively make illegal virtually all health foods, supplements, etc."

    --Rich

    Rich, thanks for clarifying that. I'm sure that the scare-mongers will
    continue to call SB722 a complete ban on life-saving nutrients.

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