Quoted message said:From: [email hidden] (Mark)
Date: 11/1/2003 7:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:I was at our local chain bookstore tonight, picking up some
Solzhenitsyn, when I found myself wandering through the Humor...uh,
"alternative Health"...aisle. Whose name did I see on the binding of
a book? Your favorite nutjob and mine, Hulda Clark: The Cure for All
Diseases.
Perhaps you should have looked for Racketeering in Medicine.
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Quoted message said:I howled until I thought I was going to
pee my pants!"
Did the straight jackets come after you, or did the owner throw you out?
Strange actions and rather childish.
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Quoted message said:No
WONDER she's even been kicked out of Tijuana.
Wrong again.
Like Peter Bowditch, you really should look things up before opening your mouth
and making a fool of yourself.
Not checking things out might just be another reason so many are turning to
alternative medicine.
Jan
Cue for LIAR Richard H. Jacobson to come a long with his LIES
==
I am grateful for one thing; that Richard Jacobson is not my real name.
Quoted message said:the Richard Jacobson that DOES live in Hawaii may not be too
happy with my assuming his name for purposes of the internet especially given
the recent events. He happens to live on a different island from me. I do plan
to contact him to let him know that someone may try to harass him since he is
listed in the phone book.
OH, WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE!!!
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Quoted message said:Hawaii's premier backpacking trail, the Kalalau Trail on the island of Kauai
still remains closed past Hanakoa due to the reconstruction ofthe trail near
"crawler's ridge". Estimated date of completion is Mid May.Until then, camping
will only be permitted in Hanakapiai and HanakoaValleys. I for one am anxious
to have Kalalau open again. It has tobe one of the finest trails in the world.
Aloha,Rich------------------------------------------------
Richard H. Jacobson
Always remember to put Horace before Descarte
From: Richard Jacobson ([email hidden])Subject: Re: An example of holistic
thinking (2/2) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternativeDate: 1995/04/29
[email hidden] (Paul Iannone) wrote:>:
Quoted message said:For Patient A, not so lucky. Antibiotic therapy, having no Boostingeffect,
fails, and the patient is left with the most abysmal form of folk:medicine on
the planet: conventional medicine's brand of folk: herbalism (havesome chicken
soup and take two or three OTC drugs: but read the label first,and eventually
Quoted message said:you'll be sick enough to: see us for a real disease).
: >: >This simple case displays some of the differences between healing: and
medicine, >\and between isolating therapies and holistic therapies.
Quoted message said:: >:>Ciao!>: >: That is a nice anecdotal story which has little meaning to me.
Icould: tell you that a person with burning comes to someone and they: give
himmineral water and he leaves feeling much energy and the: pain goes away.
Whatdoes that prove??? Not much to me.
Quoted message said:Well, perhaps that someone needs to develop Rich Jacobson Mineral Water
Therapy.But that is hardly the point.
Quoted message said:You are quite right that Mineral Water Therapy is beside the point. I
am notsure what point you were making putting ****my name****in front of a
bogus therapy. I guess you missed MY point which was tha tanyon ecould claim
anything about healing peoples illnesses withno validity to theirclaims such as
a claim for mineral water healingan infection. The problem isthat those who
claim that there methods are *more* effective ALSO state that notonly is any
kind of proof not necessary but are not at all interested in subjecti n the
treatments to any kind of objective study to demonstate their efficacy. Instead
they are relying on observations which may not be valid and may be based upon
superstitions. How does one separate reality from superstition? I guess each of
us decides for ourself. One persons reality isanothers superstition.The one way
I know to separate the two is through a well designed placebo controlled double
blind study. Perhaps there is another validway but I have not seen one to date.
For the nth time: healing is concerned withand directly involved with
correcting health imbalances before they rise toillness, and correcting
imbalances that affect those aspects of health that CANNOT be
adequatelyquantified by the most stringent of conventional methodsIagree with
you completely that preventative health care (correcting problemsbefore they
arise) is a VERY important part of staying wel land preventing disease and that
conventional medicine does a quite poor job in this area. Thisis a major
problem in which people really need to take responsibility for maintaining
their good health through good diet, exercise and avoiding unhealthy things.The
mixture of two or more pharmaceuticals produces a state hat has NEVER been
studied or validated. As a system, conventional therapyvalidates>ISOLATES, and
then freely mixes and matches them, unconcerned thatthis resulting therapy is
not validated. So validation counts for fairly little, outside of those
isolated entities that can be so tested. You are quiteright that using multiple
medications may be very dangerous and that frequenty people suffer bad
consequences from harmful interactions between medications.There are book
written about medication interactions and the importance of notusing
medications together if they are not compatible. Medication interactionsARE
studied and good clinicians DO NOTmix them freely. Perhaps you could share with
us how specifically you would like to validate the mixture of two or more
pharmaceuticalsin terms of safety. Which leaves us staring at the traditional
basis for validation: longstanding, careful observation and stringent
empiricism. Hard to beat two thousand years of very sophisticated formula
development. They weren't exactly apes throwing stones at the moon.Yes Paul I
realize that you have been really impressed by this long standingtradition and
base much of your belief on the number ofyears that it has beenaround and the
validation based upon all these clinicians observing billions ofpatients over
thousands of years. My point is that this does not constitutevalidity in my
mind. In your mind it does, in my mind it does not .
Perhaps wecould agree to disagree.
Aloha
,Rich---------------
Richard Jacobson
Better to be uncertain about something than to besure and be wrong about