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  1. I've got a mid-90s Rockhopper for a beater with a threaded rigid fork.
    Sometime ago it developed this problem in which the bike will steer to the
    left by itself, as though being pulled. I thought maybe it was the beat-up
    Mythos XC front tire w/ uneven treads (one or two big bald spots from
    absurdly hard braking that tore off the knobbies), so I replaced it. I
    checked the cable housing to make sure they weren't too short. Demonic
    possession aside, what could be the problem? I am wondering if the threaded
    headset's got something to do with it, but don't know exactly what. Any
    ideas?

  2. ellis said:

    I've got a mid-90s Rockhopper for a beater with a threaded rigid fork.
    Sometime ago it developed this problem in which the bike will steer to the
    left by itself, as though being pulled. I thought maybe it was the beat-up
    Mythos XC front tire w/ uneven treads (one or two big bald spots from
    absurdly hard braking that tore off the knobbies), so I replaced it. I
    checked the cable housing to make sure they weren't too short. Demonic
    possession aside, what could be the problem? I am wondering if the threaded
    headset's got something to do with it, but don't know exactly what. Any
    ideas?

    Check the centering of the rear wheel. Check the tightness of the
    rear wheel's skewer or axle nuts. Check the chain stays and seat
    stays for cracks. Check the fork for bent legs. Check the frame's
    straightness uisng the string method (from one rear dropout to the
    other, around the head tube; both strings shoud be about the same
    distance from the seat tube as they pass by it). Check the headset
    for looseness; set the front brake and rock the bike fore-and-aft;
    there should be no clunking in the headset, and no apparent motion top
    or bottom. I suspect that one or another of these checks will show a
    problem, but there are other possibilities as well.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  3. ellis said:

    I've got a mid-90s Rockhopper for a beater with a threaded rigid fork.
    Sometime ago it developed this problem in which the bike will steer to the
    left by itself, as though being pulled. I thought maybe it was the beat-up
    Mythos XC front tire w/ uneven treads (one or two big bald spots from
    absurdly hard braking that tore off the knobbies), so I replaced it. I
    checked the cable housing to make sure they weren't too short. Demonic
    possession aside, what could be the problem? I am wondering if the threaded
    headset's got something to do with it, but don't know exactly what. Any
    ideas?

    A possibility is that the headset bearing is "indexing" due to wear or a trauma.

    You may be able to feel this by lifting the wheel off the ground while you
    slowly turn the bars.
    If the headset has cups then mark them at the front with a marker.
    Take headset apart and inspect cups and steerer bearing surfaces and top nut
    for wear.
    Cheap way is to swap the cups top to bottom and rotate them about 90 degrees.
    But since you have it apart and these parts are cheap then best replace the
    knockout cups and the bearings.
    (If the bearings are held in races carefully note which way they face to avoid
    reassembly confusion).

    Rob

  4. ellis said:

    I've got a mid-90s Rockhopper for a beater with a threaded rigid fork.
    Sometime ago it developed this problem in which the bike will steer to the
    left by itself, as though being pulled. I thought maybe it was the beat-up
    Mythos XC front tire w/ uneven treads (one or two big bald spots from
    absurdly hard braking that tore off the knobbies), so I replaced it. I
    checked the cable housing to make sure they weren't too short. Demonic
    possession aside, what could be the problem? I am wondering if the threaded
    headset's got something to do with it, but don't know exactly what. Any
    ideas?

    Stop at any competent LBS and watch as they check both
    wheels with a dishing gauge then slip alignment gauges into
    your frame and fork.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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    Quoted message said:

    I've got a mid-90s Rockhopper for a beater with a threaded rigid fork.
    Sometime ago it developed this problem in which the bike will steer to the
    left by itself, as though being pulled. I thought maybe it was the


    beat-up

    Quoted message said:

    Mythos XC front tire w/ uneven treads (one or two big bald spots from
    absurdly hard braking that tore off the knobbies), so I replaced it. I
    checked the cable housing to make sure they weren't too short. Demonic
    possession aside, what could be the problem? I am wondering if the


    threaded

    Quoted message said:

    headset's got something to do with it, but don't know exactly what. Any
    ideas?

    Fork legs twisted/bent/otherwise offset would be my guess.

    Shaun aRe

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    Quoted message said:
    ellis said:

    I've got a mid-90s Rockhopper for a beater with a threaded rigid fork.
    Sometime ago it developed this problem in which the bike will steer to


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    left by itself, as though being pulled. I thought maybe it was the


    beat-up

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mythos XC front tire w/ uneven treads (one or two big bald spots from
    absurdly hard braking that tore off the knobbies), so I replaced it. I
    checked the cable housing to make sure they weren't too short. Demonic
    possession aside, what could be the problem? I am wondering if the


    threaded

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    headset's got something to do with it, but don't know exactly what. Any
    ideas?

    Check the centering of the rear wheel. Check the tightness of the
    rear wheel's skewer or axle nuts. Check the chain stays and seat
    stays for cracks. Check the fork for bent legs. Check the frame's
    straightness uisng the string method (from one rear dropout to the
    other, around the head tube; both strings shoud be about the same
    distance from the seat tube as they pass by it). Check the headset
    for looseness; set the front brake and rock the bike fore-and-aft;
    there should be no clunking in the headset, and no apparent motion top
    or bottom. I suspect that one or another of these checks will show a
    problem, but there are other possibilities as well.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

    Thanks for the suggestions!

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