Chaos, death and disaster - several bombs have just exploded in London ;-(

Bomba is holed up in his office ATM.
The whole thing really sucks, must be bloody scary for anyone in London.

Shaun aRe said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

Thanks for posting this. I'll change rooms so I can watch CNN. This is
not, not, not good. 🙁

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

A coworker of mine offered this "solution": For each bomb which goes off in
a Western nation, let's detonate one in Mecca.

Bob

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A coworker of mine offered this "solution": For each bomb which goes off

in

Quoted message said:

a Western nation, let's detonate one in Mecca.

You cannot fight indiscriminate hate crimes, with indiscriminate reprisals -
it's like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

Acting in a reactionary manner achieves NOTHING but more *innocent* deaths -
it merely causes escalation - think about that. Sorry Bob, but your
co-worker is an idiot, or he is unable to see the real picture due to some
form of psycho-emotional myopia.

Shaun aRe
--
May all your wishes be both wise and fulfilled.

Shaun aRe said:

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A coworker of mine offered this "solution": For each bomb which goes off
in a Western nation, let's detonate one in Mecca.

You cannot fight indiscriminate hate crimes, with indiscriminate reprisals -
it's like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

Acting in a reactionary manner achieves NOTHING but more *innocent* deaths -
it merely causes escalation - think about that. Sorry Bob, but your
co-worker is an idiot, or he is unable to see the real picture due to some
form of psycho-emotional myopia.

Thanks for putting a rational spin on this, Shaun. I can't imagine what
you and others in England must be going through right now. 🙁

Carol

--
Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

strange as it may seem I've been getting updates through the
singletrackworld forum, there are a few people who are in the midst of
it, as well as a few [censored] spouting all kinds of [censored].
Steve.

Ride-A-Lot said:

Any word on who's responsible yet? The news here in the states is spotty
and I can't get to the BBC UK site.

A "jihad cell" of Al-Qaeda has claimed responsibility.

Bob

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Perhaps now someone can
explain to me what problem is with the people protesting G8.

I'm sorry, it's come to my attention it was a terrorist attack from
some arab (?) group, not the G8 protesters. They are also
threatening Italy and Denmark.

nancy

"spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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strange as it may seem I've been getting updates through the
singletrackworld forum,

Strange it seems indeed - tell you what, you keep me updated then?

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there are a few people who are in the midst of
it, as well as a few [censored] spouting all kinds of [censored].
Steve.

OMG, some people...

Shaun aRe

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I am deeply sorry about this terrible thing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Perhaps now someone can
explain to me what problem is with the people protesting G8.

I'm sorry, it's come to my attention it was a terrorist attack from
some arab (?) group, not the G8 protesters. They are also
threatening Italy and Denmark.

nancy

They are still protesting the G8 I would think, and *likely for the right
reasons*, but in the most wrong way possible...

Thanks Nancy,

Shaun aRe - *This would be my guess, that is*.

"Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Shaun aRe said:

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A coworker of mine offered this "solution": For each bomb which goes

off

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in a Western nation, let's detonate one in Mecca.

You cannot fight indiscriminate hate crimes, with indiscriminate

reprisals -

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it's like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

Acting in a reactionary manner achieves NOTHING but more *innocent*

deaths -

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it merely causes escalation - think about that. Sorry Bob, but your
co-worker is an idiot, or he is unable to see the real picture due to

some

Quoted message said:

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form of psycho-emotional myopia.

Thanks for putting a rational spin on this, Shaun. I can't imagine what
you and others in England must be going through right now. 🙁

Carol

Myself, a great sadness and a helluvah lot of anger, just as I feel every
time I hear of this sort of thing. For those in the midst or who have lost
someone, I would not presume to say...

It scares me, for nations as a whole, for this planet, every time something
like this happens, and every time I see the way 'we' react...

Shaun aRe

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:49:55 +0100, "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A coworker of mine offered this "solution": For each bomb which goes off

in

Quoted message said:

a Western nation, let's detonate one in Mecca.

You cannot fight indiscriminate hate crimes, with indiscriminate reprisals -
it's like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

Acting in a reactionary manner achieves NOTHING but more *innocent* deaths -
it merely causes escalation - think about that. Sorry Bob, but your
co-worker is an idiot, or he is unable to see the real picture due to some
form of psycho-emotional myopia.
Shaun aRe

Oooohhhh I disagree.
Often, nothing gets your point across like a good "bad example".

In fact, I'm surprised that a restaurant bombing in TelAviv
isn't followed by a mysterious restaurant bombing in the Palestinian sector.

<rj>

4 or 5 bombs went off in tube stations/on tubes, then as people were
forced to abandon the tube and the buses were packed - 3 buses blown
up. Rough estimates of around 50 dead and 1000 casualties. No traffic
in and out of London, most people are restricted to staying in their
building (including Bomba I think). Signs on major roads into London
saying 'keep away, area closed, turn on radio'. Mobile network down
either due to heavy demand or switched off to stop further devices
being activated remotely. Al Quaeda (spelling?) have claimed
responsibility but not sure how truthful this is. Tony Blairs on his
way back from Gleneagles.

Thats as much as I know for now, its hearbreaking to hear people
wondering about family/friends who they know were in the areas but
can't get in touch with.

Steve.

Damsel <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Shaun aRe said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

Thanks for posting this. I'll change rooms so I can watch CNN. This is
not, not, not good. 🙁

Carol

This really sucks. I just read it and am about to turn on CNN. Carol, email
me at dog30 at charter dot net. I had to rebuild my machine and lost my
mailbox.

Michael <- stupidly does not back anything up and knows better

spademan o---) * said:

Hope this is over soon enough bomba, you going to be stuck in the
office overnight?

The police are letting us leave our buildings now and London Bridge
station is open, so I should be able to get home. Contingency plan of
catching one of the boats down to Greenwich, and in worst case scenario
a six mile walk.

It'll be uncomfortable and probably take an age, but in comparison to
what others are going through, I'll just count myself lucky.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Shaun aRe said:

Article here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

Since the article, MANY more than the 2 first mentioned confirmed dead. This
is bad, real, real bad...

I agree. These bombings in London are just another example of where
violence begets violence. Considering that the Brits have decades worth
of experience securing their public transportation system due to their
experience with the IRA, I fear that other countries such as the United
States are at greater risk of such a terrorist incident happening.

My heart goes out to the victims and their families.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

A coworker of mine offered this "solution": For each bomb which goes off in
a Western nation, let's detonate one in Mecca.

Your coworker is an idiot. Such a solution will only escalate more
violence. We already invaded their holy land and that's why so many
Muslims are [censored] at westerners. Haven't we learned anything, ever
with dealing with terrorists. The terrorists bomb us, we bomb them, the
cycle never ends.

In article <[email hidden]>,

RJ said:

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:49:55 +0100, "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A coworker of mine offered this "solution": For each bomb which goes off

in

Quoted message said:

a Western nation, let's detonate one in Mecca.

You cannot fight indiscriminate hate crimes, with indiscriminate reprisals -
it's like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

Acting in a reactionary manner achieves NOTHING but more *innocent* deaths -
it merely causes escalation - think about that. Sorry Bob, but your
co-worker is an idiot, or he is unable to see the real picture due to some
form of psycho-emotional myopia.
Shaun aRe

Oooohhhh I disagree.
Often, nothing gets your point across like a good "bad example".

In fact, I'm surprised that a restaurant bombing in TelAviv
isn't followed by a mysterious restaurant bombing in the Palestinian sector.

Haven't you been paying attention? The Israelis have always very quick
at reprisal whenever a terrorist attack occurs in Israel and they are
very up front about it. What has reprisal gotten the Israelis? More
terrorist attacks. Violence begets violence. Period.

"spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

4 or 5 bombs went off in tube stations/on tubes, then as people were
forced to abandon the tube and the buses were packed - 3 buses blown
up. Rough estimates of around 50 dead and 1000 casualties.

BBC says six underground, one bus - casualties about the same...

Quoted message said:

No traffic
in and out of London, most people are restricted to staying in their
building (including Bomba I think). Signs on major roads into London
saying 'keep away, area closed, turn on radio'. Mobile network down
either due to heavy demand or switched off to stop further devices
being activated remotely.

Mobile networks prioritising for emergencey services, and flooded by private
calls also, I hear.

Quoted message said:

Al Quaeda (spelling?) have claimed
responsibility but not sure how truthful this is. Tony Blairs on his
way back from Gleneagles.

Yup - they posted a message making the claim, on a Muslin web-site - still
unconfirmed last I heard.

I heard Blair talking on the radio this a.m. saying he was due to set off
back, sobbing voice etc. The guy made me feel sick, sounded so false, so
fake... made me mad...

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Thats as much as I know for now, its hearbreaking to hear people
wondering about family/friends who they know were in the areas but
can't get in touch with.

It is indeed mate.

I just hope the 'people in power' as well as soldiers in the M/east, do not
retaliate in a reactionary manner, and cause an escalation, more innocent
lives lost... <sigh...>

Cheers Steve.