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Will recovery time of arms and shoulders ever become shorter or more predictable?

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  1. I'm in my mid-forties. My main sports are tennis and racquetball. I
    have an LA Fitness membership and am in my week 5 of discovering the
    weight room.

    I seem to be a monster with the legs. Not trying to use massive
    weights, but am working them hard, occasionally going an hour on one of
    the treadmill type devices and I have zero recovery time.
    The other day I did ten miles, then played two hours of racquetball
    without any problems.

    The arms...
    Well, my upper body is more slight, but tone. I never really worked
    that often in the weight room with them before, and since I don't run
    for hours on my hands, they don't get the natural workouts I've had
    with the legs in sports over the decades.

    My shoulder and arm areas don't get or stay sore, but they get tired
    from the weights. I don't mind that, but figured 40 hours of recover
    time would be enough to go hit my tennis serve and not to be tired
    still.
    This morning 40 hours later I felt a little dead in the shoulder areas.
    I had no problem with the serving motion, but the timing was all
    screwed up because of the tired shoulder musles.
    It's not consistent, sometimes I recover over night.
    Other times this goes 3-4 days of feeling tired, but not sore.
    I'm grateful for the legs being perfect 24/7, but is there a way to
    develop the characteristics I am having with my legs in my arms and to
    reduce recovery time?

    I'm in the gym about 6 days a week. On the days I run in there I add
    20-70 minutes to my weight workout of between 30-60 minutes.
    I don't rest in between and just go from one machine to the next over
    and over till I sense I am getting tired during workouts.
    I'm doing lots of reps with lighter weights bringing my strength up
    without hurting anything.

    Ideas???

    I haven't been working the arms like the legs, but have done reps to
    the point of getting tired. Do you folks maybe think I should instead
    spend another month trying to just stimulate the arms and shoulders
    rather than really working them out with lots of reps or what?

  2. Quoted message said:

    The other day I did ten miles, then played two hours of racquetball


    without any problems.>

    Try doing ten REAL miles. Treadmill running is [censored]. Ten miles on
    the treadmill equals two miles on the road.

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The other day I did ten miles, then played two hours of racquetball


    without any problems.>

    Try doing ten REAL miles. Treadmill running is [censored]. Ten miles on
    the treadmill equals two miles on the road.

  4. tennis guy said:

    I'm in my mid-forties. My main sports are tennis and racquetball. I
    have an LA Fitness membership and am in my week 5 of discovering the
    weight room.

    I seem to be a monster with the legs. Not trying to use massive
    weights, but am working them hard, occasionally going an hour on one of
    the treadmill type devices and I have zero recovery time.
    The other day I did ten miles, then played two hours of racquetball
    without any problems.

    A monster on legs based on cardio or non-massive weights??
    Time to start squatting.

    Quoted message said:

    My shoulder and arm areas don't get or stay sore, but they get tired
    from the weights. I don't mind that, but figured 40 hours of recover
    time would be enough to go hit my tennis serve and not to be tired
    still.

    Yea.

    Quoted message said:

    This morning 40 hours later I felt a little dead in the shoulder areas.
    I had no problem with the serving motion, but the timing was all
    screwed up because of the tired shoulder musles.
    It's not consistent, sometimes I recover over night.
    Other times this goes 3-4 days of feeling tired, but not sore.
    I'm grateful for the legs being perfect 24/7, but is there a way to
    develop the characteristics I am having with my legs in my arms and to
    reduce recovery time?

    Train smarter. Use shorter workouts or space them out more.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm in the gym about 6 days a week. On the days I run in there I add
    20-70 minutes to my weight workout of between 30-60 minutes.
    I don't rest in between and just go from one machine to the next over
    and over till I sense I am getting tired during workouts.

    Sounds like inconsistent length workouts. You need to make a rough
    plan for exercises you'll do.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm doing lots of reps with lighter weights bringing my strength up
    without hurting anything.
    Ideas???

  5. It is illogical to subject my legs to what you call "real miles". My
    goals with the legs are to be able to not get tired. I'm not looking
    to wear them down more than I do on the hard courts with tennis.

    So far, I can now go out and play tennis for hours and basically not
    get tired.

    I want to strengthen the upper body more, and am just getting real
    confused about why I recover in hours one day and days another time.
    I had thought 40 hours of rest would have been a lot for my
    arm/shoulder area.

  6. Sorry Ernie, I wouldn't touch your links, they look kind of disturbing.
    Sorry if I was wrong.

  7. I do squatting but not with massive weights either. I might build
    into that.
    I use the sitting squat machines at the gym to bring my knees close to
    my chest to both gain a little strength and to gain flexibility to get
    low for volleys and such.
    You might have a great point about shorter workouts with the arms and
    shoulders. I had in the last two weeks tried to work them harder as a
    progression toward looking for more strength. Maybe I should think
    more about stimulating the areas rather than go for the major building
    right now and do this a lot slower. I am enjoying doing this.

    I use the term "monster" to refer to the functionality of my legs,
    though they look large and cut anyway.

    Tomorrow when I go into the gym, I hope to run into one of the regulars
    and get into a good discussion with him of my issues.
    This little 135 pound asian guy lifts over 800 pounds with his legs. I
    found out he was the former world tae kwan do champion in his division
    and also with swords.
    You see a fellow like that who looks like a kid moving some big weights
    around and let me tell you, it is overwhelmingly impressive.

  8. Quoted message said:

    It is illogical to subject my legs to what you call "real miles". My


    goals with the legs are to be able to not get tired.>

    I wasn't suggesting you do, do whatever works for you. I was just
    pointing out that treadmill miles are not equal to REAL running miles.
    I do my 9 miles a day on trails, and my legs don't get tired.

  9. I already run miles on cement playing tennis, and I further run miles
    at a time on wood floors playing racquet ball.

    I bet the trails and all are great, but I am going out of my way to not
    wear down my joints.

    An additional benefit of working indoors on a club device is the
    avoidance of alergy causing substances.

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