Badger Talks Smack

I have the relevant Equipe somewhere, but anyway, it seems that Hinault
has even managed to convince himself that his attacks on Lemond in the
86
Tour were done out of his sense of honour, to keep his word that
he would do everything to help Lemond win after the 85 events.

Another bizarre development revealed in yesterday's Velo Club:
Hinault's
town won the prize for "ville fleurie" out of a thousand candidates
and Hinault just happens to be president of the association. He smugly
recounted on TV how he incited the village to start planting early,
etc.

-ilan

Torched Smurf a écrit :

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Good stuff from Bernie: Basso is an enfeebled geezer who should hang it
up before he dislocates his hip trying to swing a leg over his bike.
Chavanel is a human wasteland, a dried out husk of a man.

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I have the relevant Equipe somewhere, but anyway, it seems that Hinault
has even managed to convince himself that his attacks on Lemond in the
86
Tour were done out of his sense of honour, to keep his word that
he would do everything to help Lemond win after the 85 events.

I guess he figured that the "sense of honor" explanation sounded more sane
than claiming that tour as a virtual win.

NS

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I have the relevant Equipe somewhere, but anyway, it seems that Hinault
has even managed to convince himself that his attacks on Lemond in the
86
Tour were done out of his sense of honour, to keep his word that
he would do everything to help Lemond win after the 85 events.

Another bizarre development revealed in yesterday's Velo Club:
Hinault's
town won the prize for "ville fleurie" out of a thousand candidates
and Hinault just happens to be president of the association. He smugly
recounted on TV how he incited the village to start planting early,
etc.

-ilan

I dunno, Ilan, that's normal business practice here in New York. Maybe
he should run for mayor.

Steve

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Torched Smurf a écrit :

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Good stuff from Bernie: Basso is an enfeebled geezer who should hang it
up before he dislocates his hip trying to swing a leg over his bike.
Chavanel is a human wasteland, a dried out husk of a man.

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Hinault rules.

-RJ

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I have the relevant Equipe somewhere, but anyway, it seems that Hinault
has even managed to convince himself that his attacks on Lemond in the
86
Tour were done out of his sense of honour, to keep his word that
he would do everything to help Lemond win after the 85 events.

Hinault is too modest. He gave Lemond in 1986 so much more than only a Tour
de France win: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he'll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I've waged against him.
From now on he'll be capable of winning the toughest races. I've taught him
a lot. In future he'll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don't regret what I've done, because it was
all for his own good."

Benjo

Nice to see you posting, Benjo. It would have been an incomplete TDF
experience without your presence.

benjo maso said:

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I have the relevant Equipe somewhere, but anyway, it seems that Hinault
has even managed to convince himself that his attacks on Lemond in the
86
Tour were done out of his sense of honour, to keep his word that
he would do everything to help Lemond win after the 85 events.

Hinault is too modest. He gave Lemond in 1986 so much more than only a Tour
de France win: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he'll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I've waged against him.
From now on he'll be capable of winning the toughest races. I've taught him
a lot. In future he'll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don't regret what I've done, because it was
all for his own good."

Benjo

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Nice to see you posting, Benjo. It would have been an incomplete TDF
experience without your presence.

benjo maso said:

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I have the relevant Equipe somewhere, but anyway, it seems that Hinault
has even managed to convince himself that his attacks on Lemond in the
86
Tour were done out of his sense of honour, to keep his word that
he would do everything to help Lemond win after the 85 events.

Hinault is too modest. He gave Lemond in 1986 so much more than only a Tour
de France win: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he'll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I've waged against him.
From now on he'll be capable of winning the toughest races. I've taught him
a lot. In future he'll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don't regret what I've done, because it was
all for his own good."

Benjo

I say that to my daughter "It's for your own good".
She doesn't like it much either.

Steve

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Hinault rules.

Hinault only knows how to talk straight. But the truth offends a lot
people now days. But if you read his bio, you can see he didn't put up with
fools, except one. LeMond, and I think to this day, he regrets putting up
with him.

Claudius Vitalis said:

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Hinault rules.

Hinault only knows how to talk straight. But the truth offends a lot
people now days. But if you read his bio, you can see he didn't put up with
fools, except one. LeMond, and I think to this day, he regrets putting up
with him.

Was it in the '86 Coors Classic that he went off with Phinney and
wouldn't work, came around him to win the stage? IIRC Phinney
complained bitterly, and when they asked Hinault why he wouldn't pull
through, said something like "Dooo yooo tink I yam stooooopeeed?"

Steve

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Hinault rules.

Hinault only knows how to talk straight. But the truth offends a lot
people now days. But if you read his bio, you can see he didn't put up
with
fools, except one. LeMond, and I think to this day, he regrets putting up
with him.

His autobiography was is an interesting book on a number of levels. I leads
me to conclude that ASO must have him on tranquilizers for the month of
July.

Steven Bornfeld a écrit :

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Was it in the '86 Coors Classic that he went off with Phinney and
wouldn't work, came around him to win the stage? IIRC Phinney
complained bitterly, and when they asked Hinault why he wouldn't pull
through, said something like "Dooo yooo tink I yam stooooopeeed?"

It was the 85 Coors classic, Nevada City to Truckee stage. Phinney
mistakenly sprinted for some city banner, thinking it was the finish
line, which was 200 meters further along. Afterwards, Phinney could be
heard
saying something along the lines of: "What a dirty way to win a race."
At the podium ceremony, the tape recorder played the Marseillaise twice
and Hinault didn't even flinch. That shows he was a true champion.

-ilan

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Steven Bornfeld a écrit :

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Was it in the '86 Coors Classic that he went off with Phinney and
wouldn't work, came around him to win the stage? IIRC Phinney
complained bitterly, and when they asked Hinault why he wouldn't pull
through, said something like "Dooo yooo tink I yam stooooopeeed?"

It was the 85 Coors classic, Nevada City to Truckee stage. Phinney
mistakenly sprinted for some city banner, thinking it was the finish
line, which was 200 meters further along. Afterwards, Phinney could be
heard
saying something along the lines of: "What a dirty way to win a race."
At the podium ceremony, the tape recorder played the Marseillaise twice
and Hinault didn't even flinch. That shows he was a true champion.

-ilan

Because he didn't cry?

Steve

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B. Lafferty a écrit :

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His autobiography was is an interesting book on a number of levels. I leads
me to conclude that ASO must have him on tranquilizers for the month of
July.

Another bizarre comment on the Velo Club is so insane that I'll have
to watch the tape three more times to make sure I understand it right.
Basically, I think he said that he went to 86 worlds the overwhelming
favourite, but decided not to do the road race, and that is the proof
that he was a great champion. Maybe this rant is in his book.

-ilan

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I have the relevant Equipe somewhere, but anyway, it seems that Hinault
has even managed to convince himself that his attacks on Lemond in the
86 Tour were done out of his sense of honour, to keep his word that
he would do everything to help Lemond win after the 85 events.

Lemond said on the OLN special on him, "I now realize that if I'd won 5, 6
or 7 Tours it still wouldn't have been enough." This is the sort of drive
that it takes to win a Tour so I don't think that we can blame the Badger
for having mixed feelings.

Funny, it seems that having been a bad mutha on a bike often distorts
the persons perception of "the new guys".

That might be my favorite thing about Merckx. He go off half cocked
all the time, talking out his ass.

D

Torched Smurf said:

Good stuff from Bernie: Basso is an enfeebled geezer who should hang it
up before he dislocates his hip trying to swing a leg over his bike.
Chavanel is a human wasteland, a dried out husk of a man.

I just wish the Badger wouldn't pull his goddamn punches. I mean, tell
us what you *really* think.

-Smurf

http://eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e7203/sport_lng0_spo18_evt7203_sto742291.shtml

BERNARD BOMBS BASSO

What about 2004 Tour podium finisher, Ivan Basso? "No, Basso's
29-years-old," the Badger snapped, rather erroneously overestimating
the Italian's age by two years.

"We must stop talking about him and his chances. He's almost 30. If he
was as good as everyone has claimed, he would have already caused
Armstrong some problems."

What about the state of French cycling, is there any hope in the likes
of perennial espoir Sylvan Chavanel?

"I ask myself sometimes if the guy even exists," laments the Breton
curmudgeon. "He's just a desert. Is there anything actually there apart
from sand?

"There is Christophe Moreau I suppose, but would he put his
hypothetical chances of a podium finish ahead of his desire to win a
stage?" asks the Grouch.

"Today [Thursday], David Moncoutié saved the French furniture from the
flames."

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B. Lafferty a écrit :

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His autobiography was is an interesting book on a number of levels. I leads
me to conclude that ASO must have him on tranquilizers for the month of
July.

Another bizarre comment on the Velo Club is so insane that I'll have
to watch the tape three more times to make sure I understand it right.
Basically, I think he said that he went to 86 worlds the overwhelming
favourite, but decided not to do the road race, and that is the proof
that he was a great champion. Maybe this rant is in his book.

-ilan

He rode the road race in 86. I was lucky enough to be there and see
him
in the flesh...

This is where I should say something really stupid, like he meant
he didn't ride the ITT. Anyway, I will watch the tape again, like I
said, to try to figure out what he meant.

-ilan

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He rode the road race in 86. I was lucky enough to be there and see
him
in the flesh...

Back on this again-

Basso looks ready for the podium again, and if "caused Armstrong some
problems" was the qualification for being on the podium then nobody
really fits the bill.

D

Torched Smurf said:

Good stuff from Bernie: Basso is an enfeebled geezer who should hang it
up before he dislocates his hip trying to swing a leg over his bike.
Chavanel is a human wasteland, a dried out husk of a man.

I just wish the Badger wouldn't pull his goddamn punches. I mean, tell
us what you *really* think.

-Smurf

http://eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e7203/sport_lng0_spo18_evt7203_sto742291.shtml

BERNARD BOMBS BASSO

What about 2004 Tour podium finisher, Ivan Basso? "No, Basso's
29-years-old," the Badger snapped, rather erroneously overestimating
the Italian's age by two years.

"We must stop talking about him and his chances. He's almost 30. If he
was as good as everyone has claimed, he would have already caused
Armstrong some problems."

What about the state of French cycling, is there any hope in the likes
of perennial espoir Sylvan Chavanel?

"I ask myself sometimes if the guy even exists," laments the Breton
curmudgeon. "He's just a desert. Is there anything actually there apart
from sand?

"There is Christophe Moreau I suppose, but would he put his
hypothetical chances of a podium finish ahead of his desire to win a
stage?" asks the Grouch.

"Today [Thursday], David Moncoutié saved the French furniture from the
flames."

Claudius Vitalis said:

Hinault only knows how to talk straight. But the truth offends a lot
people now days. But if you read his bio, you can see he didn't put up with
fools, except one. LeMond, and I think to this day, he regrets putting up
with him.

What is it with you and Lemond? This obsession is really
getting tiresome. You're in a class with Lafferty and
his psychotic hatred of LANCE! on this. And that's not
good company.

First you make [censored] up and attribute it to Lemond. Now
you're making [censored] up about Lemond and attributing it
to Hinault. My standards for rbr discourse are not high.
But you're really a scumbag. If you ever do something
stupid while sleep deprived and get popped by a truck,
no one will miss you.

Bob Schwartz
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